I'm very sorry guys, my son got sick again and work haven't slow down...
Get swamped in both, without accounting the side effect of my second shot of vaccine and the fact that we start preparing our move back to France.
Now work seems to settling down, my son is better so I can focus on better things.
Sorry again for my silence, I will resume the game tomorrow and I hope to finish this last fight quickly.
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I thinks it's understandable that Ilmakis is very busy with much more important matters than Starfinder right now. What does everyone think about me looking to see if we can get a different GM to finish running the game? If Ilmakis comes back that is fine, but I don't feel comfortable messaging him and asking him to finish running the game since obviously it's just a game of Starfinder and I don't want him to feel that he has any obligation at all to finish GM'ing the session.
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If he isn't, I could finish it as table GM, but assign the credit to Ilmakis and just put computcast down as a regular character. For the final encounter I'd suggest dropping Compucast off the character list and play it with the four player adjustment.
Given Ilmakis has done almost the entire thing I'm comfortable doing that just to finish things off.
Hello, everyone. I’ll be your GM for this boss fight.
I’m currently doing the prep work for it (there’s an insane amount of moving parts in the background!) and we should start soon enough.
I believe everyone has taken their surprise round actions and the villain is done monologuing - I’ll be rolling the initiative next, either later today or tomorrow.
I'm deeply sorry for my silence the past days. My wife hurt her back, my son is starting to have his first teeth and wakes up regularly twice a night and work is still crazy... So between work, doing the chores, taking care of my 7month old son, I wasn't able to connect and play.
I've tried my best but it just wasn't physically possible.
My wife is better, work still demanding and the teeth still not fully there, but trying my best to come back.
Again, I'm very sorry for my absence and sometime, even doing your best is not enough. I'm trying to catch up.
Thanks Raji!
Will work on the sheet to give it before paizocon.
Thanks Raji!
No problemo!
@players: I see Gab has DR 2/-, does anyone else have damage reduction or energy resistance? Just so there's no need to go back and recalculate the damage (though that will probably still occur, this is pretty nuts).
I looked at the PC sheets, but they make the 4 pages of monster stat blocks look easy.
Man, that charisma drain can ruin your day.
Just so everybody knows. If you hit zero charisma I believe you die.
Usually you just go unconscious until you recover - but Benoit discovered this earlier:
"The golem’s strikes infuse the target with crippling self-doubt, dealing Charisma drain (Will save negates). If this drain reduces the target to 0 Charisma, the creature remains conscious and is dominated, as the Dominate Person spell, ignoring type and immunities."
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Is the robot still invisible even after firing its weapon? Do we have to do opposed perception checks to attack it?
It's part of his power - but he only shoots after moving, so you are "aware of a creature’s location", the only advantages he gets is the 50% total concealment, and having everyone being flat-footed to him (which I don't think I remembered to use).
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Does the -2 penalty to will saves apply to the save that has to be made to attack Vradak?
Also, if I'm reading what you wrote correctly you only have to roll the will save to attack Vradak. Everything else is still free game.
The golem is the big boy and Vradak is the token next to the assassin robot.
Now that I'm reading the invisibility rules it sure is confusing. So is the robot's ability like the invisibility spell? Does it appear after it attacks?
Does the -2 penalty to will saves apply to the save that has to be made to attack Vradak?
That -2 penalty is universal to any will save.
Also, if I'm reading what you wrote correctly you only have to roll the will save to attack Vradak. Everything else is still free game.
Yep, it protects him only.
The golem is the big boy and Vradak is the token next to the assassin robot.
Yeah, the golem is the huge gray contemplative, and Vradak is black and purple creature with a hammerhead shark-like head, right behind the transparent robot.
Now that I'm reading the invisibility rules it sure is confusing. So is the robot's ability like the invisibility spell? Does it appear after it attacks?
The robot has an holographic camouflage that when amplified works like invisibility - except that his holographic trick ability (trick attack rip off) lets him attack while maintaining the camouflage, while a regular attack would end it. No reason to do regular attacks, though...
Added a second slide to properly identify the foes!
Does the "no-PvP" rule apply to dominated characters as well?
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I think so. I can always use a laser, but I suspect that golem has an AC that makes me very unlikely to hurt it. I did consider staying in HTH with it, but it seems to hit my AC with impunity and even with weapon focus, my claws to-hit is only +11.
Maybe if I move around and use supercharge weapon on someone. Sad if that is the best I can manage.
Right now, half of the party seems to be focused on the Golem, while the other half is being mauled by the remaining enemies.
If you would analyze the attack rolls, it's clear the Golem has the highest AC of the whole bunch and is insanely powerful in melee - the damage taken so far by the party isn't too bad, but that charisma drain is a game changer.
Too bad nobody has Mind Thrust, that would've been wild.
The rules for invisible enemies are so complicated!
Not at all, you just need to read this stuff and everything will make sense:
Senses
Source Starfinder Core Rulebook pg. 260
Just as actions determine what you can do in combat and movement determines how you get there to do it, senses determine what you can perceive and how. Different alien races might have many different senses, but essentially all senses are separated into precise and imprecise senses. A specific creature’s senses are typically further refined into special abilities that more tightly detail how it perceives. These abilities include blindsight, blindsense, sense through, darkvision, and low-light vision, and the description of these abilities is found in Special Abilities beginning on page 262.
The broad definitions of creatures’ types of senses are below, followed by an explanation of how they function.
Precise Senses
Source Starfinder Core Rulebook pg. 260
Precise senses allow a creature to perceive the world in nuanced detail. For many creatures, the only precise sense they have is vision. Most other precise senses are collectively referred to as “blindsight,” indicating that they are precise like vision but creatures can use them without needing to see.
Imprecise Senses
Source Starfinder Core Rulebook pg. 260
Imprecise senses allow a creature to perceive certain details and clues about the world, which vary depending on the sense, but these are not sufficient for the creature to make out nuanced detail the way a human’s sight does. For many creatures, their nonvisual senses are imprecise. Some creatures have extremely keen imprecise senses that, while still insufficient to provide details like a precise sense would, can greatly help the creatures detect stimuli in the absence of their precise senses; such senses are collectively referred to as “blindsense.”
Specific Sensing Mechanisms
Source Starfinder Core Rulebook pg. 260
Creatures with blindsense or blindsight typically perceive using a specific sense mechanism, indicated in parentheses after blindsense or blindsight in the creature’s statistics. If this sense somehow becomes unusable, the creature loses access entirely to its blindsense or blindsight. The typical senses through which creatures can perceive are emotion, life, scent, sound, thought, and vibration.
Specific entries for blindsense, blindsight, and other senses can be found in Special Abilities beginning on page 262.
The Four States of Awareness
Source Starfinder Core Rulebook pg. 260
In gameplay, there are four different states of awareness that you can have with regard to another creature, which determine, for example, whether you surprise it when you engage it in combat or whether you can target a creature with an attack. These states of awareness are described below.
Unaware
When you are unaware of another creature, you don’t even know it is present. Generally this occurs because the creature is hidden, you failed your Perception check to notice it, and the creature hasn’t yet performed any actions that would alert you to its presence. You cannot directly attack a creature you are unaware of, but it is subject to area effects.
Aware Of Presence
When you are aware of another creature’s presence, you don’t necessarily know exactly where it is. Typically this occurs when the hidden creature has taken some action that revealed its general presence in the area but has successfully used Stealth since then to hide its exact location. If you have succeeded at a Perception check to notice a creature with an imprecise sense other than blindsense, you are aware of the creature’s presence (if you have blindsense, a successful Perception check means you are aware of the creature’s location; see below). You cannot directly attack a creature if you are only aware of its presence, but it is subject to area effects affecting its location.
In order to directly attack such a creature, you must pinpoint its exact location with an additional Perception check to search (see page 144). If this check is successful and you are using an imprecise sense to pinpoint a creature, you become aware of the creature’s location (see Aware of Location below). If this check is successful and you are using a precise sense to pinpoint a creature, you are observing the creature (see Observing below).
Aware Of Location
When you are aware of a creature’s location, you know exactly where the creature is located, but you still can’t observe the creature with a precise sense such as vision. Generally, this occurs because you have blindsense, or because the creature is hidden but you have succeeded at a Perception check to search for the creature with an imprecise sense. You must at least be aware of a creature’s location in order to directly attack it, though it is considered to have total concealment from you (see page 253). It is, however, subject to area effects affecting that location.
Observing
When you are observing a creature, you can directly perceive the creature with a precise sense. Generally, this occurs when a creature is visible, when the situation makes it impossible for the creature use Stealth to hide, or when you have succeeded at a Perception check to search for the creature using a precise sense such as blindsight. You must be observing a creature to use a ranged effect that targets a specific creature without requiring an attack roll to hit (such as magic missile). You can also make normal attacks, including ones using ranged abilities, against creatures that you are observing. Again, it is subject to area effects that affect its location.
A creature currently being observed can’t attempt a Stealth check without first breaking that observation. To break observation, the creature must either mask itself from your precise senses (with darkness, fog, invisibility, or the like, but not with effects such as displacement that still leave a clear visual indicator of its location), move somewhere it can’t be observed (a place with cover, for example), or use Bluff to create a distraction to momentarily break your observation of it.
Dealing with Unseen Creatures
Source Starfinder Core Rulebook pg. 261
If you are unaware of a creature, aware of a creature’s presence, or aware of a creature’s location, that creature is considered to be “unseen” for you. A stationary unseen creature has a +40 bonus to Stealth checks, but this bonus is reduced to +20 if the unseen creature moves (and these bonuses are negated for potential observers with blindsense). An unseen creature benefits from total concealment (50% miss chance) against attacks. In addition, you are considered flat-footed against an unseen creature’s attacks.
If you are unaware of a creature or aware only of its presence, you cannot directly attack it. You must first succeed at a Perception check to search for the creature’s location, which then allows you to become aware of the creature’s location (if using an imprecise sense) or to observe the creature (if using a precise sense). If an unseen creature makes a melee attack against you from a space adjacent to you, you automatically determine its location, though this doesn’t stop it from moving after the attack.
Special Abilities
Source Starfinder Core Rulebook pg. 262
A number of creatures and characters with a variety of classes gain the use of special abilities. These abilities range from ones that can be activated in a way similar to spells to more static abilities that grant special senses or traits.
Invisible
An invisible creature is visually undetectable. A creature using only an imprecise sense, or whose only precise sense is vision, can’t observe an invisible creature, so the invisible creature is unseen by such a would-be observer. Creatures with blindsight can perceive invisible creatures normally, since blindsight is a precise sense that does not rely on vision, and thus can observe invisible creatures. See Senses on page 260 and Dealing with Unseen Creatures on page 261 for more information.
Invisible creatures remain invisible even in unusual environments, such as underwater, and when subject to effects such as fog or smoke. They are not magically silenced. They can still be heard, smelled, and felt as normal, even if other creatures can’t see them. Invisible creatures leave tracks and can be tracked normally. A character looking for an invisible creature might find his quarry if the invisible creature drops an item, speaks, smells strongly, leaves an obvious trail, or performs some action that makes itself known. Finding an invisible creature in this way requires a Perception check as normal. If successful, and assuming your only precise sense is vision, you become aware of the invisible creature’s presence, but you don’t know its exact location. If you’re looking for an invisible creature, the GM might rule that you have a bonus or penalty to your Perception checks based on the situation.
Items dropped or put down by an invisible creature become visible; items it picks up disappear if tucked into the clothing or pouches worn by the creature. Light, however, never becomes invisible, although a source of light can become so (thus creating the effect of a light with no visible source). Any part of an item that the creature carries but that extends more than 10 feet from it becomes visible.
Invisibility does not thwart divination spells or effects. Invisible creatures cannot use gaze attacks (see the Starfinder Alien Archive). If you are or become invisible while grappled, you gain a +2 circumstance bonus to your check to escape being grappled, but you gain no other benefit against the grappler.
Perception (Wis)
Source Starfinder Core Rulebook pg. 144
You can use all of your senses (hearing, taste, touch, sight, and smell) to notice danger, pick out fine details, and search for hidden objects or creatures.
Search
As a move action, you can use Perception to search for something in particular, such as finding an invisible creature that has made itself known or a hidden creature you know is in the area, or looking for nearby traps or hazards. [...] The DC is determined by the Stealth check of the creature, by the trap or hazard involved, or by the GM.
Stealth (Dex; Armor Check Penalty)
Source Starfinder Core Rulebook pg. 147
You can stay hidden and move silently to avoid detection, allowing you to sneak past foes or strike from an unseen position.
Invisibility and Hiding
Source Starfinder Core Rulebook pg. 148
If you are invisible or benefit from total concealment, you gain a +40 bonus to your Stealth check as long as you remain immobile. You are considered immobile if it is your turn and you have not yet moved or if you have not moved since the start of your last turn. If you are invisible but not immobile, you instead gain a +20 bonus to your Stealth check. Typically, a creature cannot attack you if you are invisible or have total concealment unless the creature pinpoints you with a successful Perception check. (Invisible creatures can still be heard, smelled, and felt, and might do something to make themselves known to those who succeed at Perception checks; see Invisible on page 264 in Chapter 8.) Even then, the attacking creature has a 50% miss chance against the pinpointed creature.
Invisibility
Source Starfinder Core Rulebook pg. 362
Classes Technomancer 2, Witchwarper 2
School illusion
Casting Time 1 standard action
Range touch
Targets one creature or object no more than 10 bulk/level
Duration 1 minute/level (D)
Saving Throw Will negates (harmless, object), see text; Spell Resistance yes (harmless, object)
The creature or object touched becomes invisible (see page 264). If the target is a creature, any gear it is carrying vanishes as well. If you cast the spell on someone else, neither you nor your allies can see the target unless you can normally see invisible things or you employ magic to do so.
The spell ends if the target attacks any creature. For purposes of this spell, an attack includes any spell or harmful effect targeting a foe or whose area or effect includes a foe. Actions directed at unattended objects don’t break the spell. Spells that specifically affect allies but not foes are not attacks for this purpose, even when they include foes in their area. Causing harm indirectly is not an attack. Thus, an invisible being can open doors, talk, eat, climb stairs, summon security forces and have them attack, start a trash compactor with foes inside, remotely trigger traps, and so forth.
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That would be up to Ragi.
Attacks
Some spell descriptions refer to attacking. All offensive combat actions, even those that don’t damage opponents, are considered attacks. Anytime you would need to make an attack roll to determine whether your spell hits a target, you are considered to be making an attack.
Even an effect that is inoffensive or beneficial to some affected creatures still counts as an attack if it would be considered offensive to any affected creature. Spells that deal damage, spells that opponents can resist with saving throws (and that are not harmless), and spells that otherwise harm or hamper subjects are attacks.
So possibly if you cast it you will have to make a d100 roll against his concealment?