
Abnaki v'Cardi |

What are your thoughts on words of power? I'm beginning to imagine Abnaki as using a more primal magic? And if yes, would I still get to keep the stone spells that my bard architype gives me, like sorcerers keep bloodline spells?

Hubristic Efreeti |

I'm going to hold off on posting for the moment, simply because we have enough interesting work to do on the characters first. I think the RP will come more naturally once we know more. For instance:
Samen, if you are willing, you can take the "voices" of Abby and Stof and make them a part of your posting. I was thinking more about it, and having me (the DM) constantly putting words in your mouth and taking control seems...not fun in the long run.
What do you think about the idea of RPing all 3 voices and actions yourself? I might occasionally narrate "who wins control" at any given point, but the exact actions, etc will still be YOUR character, and YOUR posts.
Reasonable? I think it will be both a challenge but also really fun.

Hubristic Efreeti |

Phew! And finally, a simple one:
Mycos, a race based in fungus and Rot, with undifferentiated anatomy (they have basically one kind of cell, that does lots of things)
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Squishy Hardiness: +2 Con
Foreign Bodies: Immune to poison and disease
Distant Minds: Advantage vs mind-effecting spells.
And that's it. Simple race.

Hubristic Efreeti |

Your size is small - most Mycos are medium, but your specific sect is small. (speed is still 30 feet)
Language: Blurp, which is ROUGHLY the underommon equivalent of Rasp and Creak (so you can speak both the Fey languages poorly, and your own unique language well).
Because you are trained to "host" any kind of phantom before you are chosen, you also know Common. Again, this is unusual among Mycos.

Samen Vloe Firenze |
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Yeah, I'm content with running all three voices. If it's not too annoying, I was thinking about beginning to use the "we/us" pronouns.
I'm imagining this entity will continue to have Abby's hunger for new flavors and experiences, and Stof's lack of empathy. I don't want to play it evil, but that seems like a natural tendency of this creature.
I'm thinking Samen would be able to identify with Abby's desire to learn and Stof's desire in increase power with a new character goal of making more elementally infused abominations out of dead bodies (and then potentially eating them). Unified under this goal, they can all be pulling in the same direction without becoming a complete monster.
Are you thinking there would be any mechanical changes with this, or just RP?

Abnaki v'Cardi |

Are we getting more evil? If so, I'd probably want to try and rebuild Abnaki a bit more permanently, he's still fundamentally a good soul, even if he's a bit splintered at the moment.

Gabriel Izalith |

Gabriels going to be a lost little fire boy with zero knowledge of how to interact without his shadows lol.

Samen Vloe Firenze |

In my experience, running an evil PC sucks for the whole table unless everyone is into it.
I don't want to be getting more evil, but Stof and Abby are neither one motivated by anything good. Samen had historically been running a personal ponzi scheme of meeting their ever increasing demands in exchange for keeping them in line, but without bodily autonomy, that will become more complicated. I'm thinking a unified, if unseemly, goal is the best way to do that.

Hubristic Efreeti |

Samen ---- That's reasonable. Samen has always been the grayest character anyway. No worries with a dark gray True Neutral.
Others: Abnaki has a good heart - he can struggle, but I'd prefer a storyteller to have hope. I'm interested to see what Gabe does. Kallik and I have talked and we will definitely be seeing a non-evil character :)
So overall, Samen is definitely falling prey to his own methods, which is wonderful as a character arc, but I'd prefer we not go "full evil" as it were.

Gabriel Izalith |

I dont think Gabe could do evil. How he acts and plays is edgy but he does what he considers good and just, of that means overturning the status quo then he will

Abnaki v'Cardi |

What's the verdict on Words of Power? I'll need to do some revamping spells? Also, am I still an Oread? What about part fey? Should I stop trying to get the oread earth glider feat? If so, can I swap the feats that I've already taken towards something else?

Sequoya |

I was a bit busy with my wife being sick the last few days, but I'd be in, preferring to be as "mostly unchanged" as possible if that works.

Hubristic Efreeti |

WOW, Words of Power is interesting at first glance! I can't help but think it's perfect for the direction Abnaki is going, so my answer is YES, but I reserve the right to tinker with you after I see the rough draft of the updates, and what you can do. It could be too weak or too strong (I don't have any preconceptions), so we shall see how it goes. It's interesting, so I'll willing to give it a shot.

Hubristic Efreeti |

Abnaki, let's make a simple "half fey" template for your former oread as you are rebuilding:
--Keep most qualities, etc of your race
--We'll turn one thing on its head - you have -2 Str and + 2 Cha (and the standard +2 Wis)
--Feel free to retrain your feats - you straight up have Earth Glide (5 ft, through stone, etc). That is your one gift from me :)

Gabriel Izalith |

Btw the invisibility ability states are higher levels i get more casts does that apply still?

Abnaki v'Cardi |

Thank you! A few quick questions:
I was already a gemsoul oread, which is +cha, +str, -wis. Should I just swap the +2 str, and the -2 wis around?
I had removed "Crystilne form: 1/day deflect a single ray spell as deflect arrows, +2 racial ac vs rays," and, "Granite Skin: +1 natural armor bonus to AC" from my character sheet a while ago, as I no longer was crystalline or granite, post fey transformation. I hadn't replaced them with anything. Should I put them back?
I already had 10ft burrow speed from my race, (dirt only) can I convince you of earth glide 10 to match it? No is ok, but I feel that is probably in line with permanent 60ft fly speed! :)
Finally, I am requesting that I get to keep stoneshape as a 3rd level spell on my list. I really like that spell. It's probably Abnaki's signature spell.

Abnaki v'Cardi |

Proposed reworked Abnaki:
Feats:
Swapping out Harmonic Spell, and the two Oread Feats for:
Spell Focus Enchantment
Greater Spell Focus Enchantment
Fey Performance
Spells:
Target Words: All
Meta Word: 4/day: (Boost)
* = interesting boost spells
Spells marked with a & have +2 DC
0's: Beacon, Cramp, Decipher*, Echo, Lift, Sense Magic
1st: 6/day DC:16 Friendship&, Glide, Lesser Cure, Simple Order&*, Wrack
2nd: 6/day (Or 0/0) DC:17 Accelerate*, Disappear*, Discordant Note, Enhance form
3rd: 4/day (Or 1/1, 2/0, 0/0/0) DC:18 stoneshape, Complex Order&, Torture, Farsight*

Hubristic Efreeti |

Abnaki,
Good call on the stats, so switch str and wis.
"Mind of the Trickster Race": you have +4 racial on saving throws vs mind-affecting spells.
HA, fine, 10 ft it is.
Yep, keeping stoneshape is fine.
I will look at the second post later tonight --- just answering the questions from the first post.

Hubristic Efreeti |
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Is Saturday/Sunday a reasonable timeline for most of the character updates?
Remember. knowing how your character will "feel" when we wake up is the most important thing, so we can start posting on Monday.
I'll start warming up over the weekend with a few initial posts. I will let you know when we start for real.

Gabriel Izalith |

So in the process of rebuilding Gabriel. Some things changed but not his role as Stealthy boy melee man. He still does that but sacrificed the fighter advantages for some versatility thanks to Slayer.
Gabriel can switch hit, having added Archery to his repertoire with slayers ranger combat style talents.
His sneak attack is roughly the same lol
More skills.
He's not a mage but soon he'll sure as heck be able to fake it mainly in the form of illusion slas and ability to auto use wands with illusion spells
Just a little mechanical rundown for yall. Character wise we'll see how he adapts

Samen Vloe Firenze |

Yes, three voices in the head. Samen himself was the freaked out one. Stof was the terse one. Abby was the verbose one.
Most of the time, I don't plan on posting the internal councils, but if I do, I'll be sure to label who is speaking for clarity. In this case, however, the confusion was an intentional literary device for the purpose of introduction.
Mechanically, I feel like there should be substantial differences, but I have no idea how to model those. Would I have different stat blocks for who is in charge at any given time? Do they roll knowledge checks independently? Or should I just make all of that an abstraction and keep the mechanics largely unchanged?

Hubristic Efreeti |

Gabriel, thanks for the update!
Samen, I definitely want it to be an abstraction. It's more like (you rolled a nat 1, so Abby is too bored to have you succeed right now), not (let's have 3 entirely separate characters, which would turn into a chore)
We might re-visit once we see how everyone's new-ish character plays, but overall I am a huge fan of simplicity leading to interesting situations, rather than having everything sagging under the weight of complexity.

Gabriel Izalith |
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Btw Gabriel picked up via rogue talent the Ninja trick pressure points which does 1 point in of ability score damage whenever he lands a sneak attack. So that minor debuff exists too

Abnaki v'Cardi |

I'm not really a high enough level to do anything too fancy with words of power yet. Pretty much my best tricks are casting complex order, and accelerate. Not at the same time either. That being said, accelerate is like single target haste+ that has some synergy with haste, so that's a pretty neat trick. Giving people neo-pounce is really nice. Next spell level, I start to get fun tricks however, as well as a rounds/level dominate, which I will probably pick up the ability to boost to target fort saves.
4th level spells let me do fun combos like accelerate+enhance form, friendship+torture(to make it stick better), and probably some other cool non-combination tricks. But as mentioned, at the moment, my spells don't really combine well. So traditional casting is still in vogue, as he gets the hang of it.

Samen Vloe Firenze |

I'm good.

Gabriel Izalith |

I'll be a bit busy this week due to working retail and it being the holidays. Once those are over things should be normal for a bit