Work is crazy at the moment. Will update tomorrow!
Around for the next 6 hours, then having a sleep before hitting the road for 36 hours with work. As I will be in remote locations and pretty much on the move in vehicles for a significant amount of that time I will unlikely to be able to post until we get back home.
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Is this a special cloudkiill?
Generally, cloudkill doesn’t expand- it just moves 10 feet away from the caster. That should mean most of the pathfinders are out of its space.
Unlike a fog cloud, the cloudkill moves away from you at 10 feet per round, rolling along the surface of the ground.
Figure out the cloud’s new spread each round based on its new point of origin, which is 10 feet farther away from the point of origin where you cast the spell.
Is this a special cloudkiill?
Generally, cloudkill doesn’t expand- it just moves 10 feet away from the caster. That should mean most of the pathfinders are out of its space.
Unlike a fog cloud, the cloudkill moves away from you at 10 feet per round, rolling along the surface of the ground.
Figure out the cloud’s new spread each round based on its new point of origin, which is 10 feet farther away from the point of origin where you cast the spell.
Uuuups! Completely, misread the cloudkill! Thanks Ischell!!
Couple of questions to prepare for my next turn:
What does the opposed Charisma check for charm person oppose?
To enter the Sages' dreamscapes, do we need to be able to enter the same square or be adjacent to them?
1. If you do not make the check you would do your friend a favour and do something you usually wouldn’t do. See what the div said and decide for yourself if you don’t make the check. :-)
2. Adjacent.
@Ischell: Tahari phased into the ground. She is not on the map currently.
Sickened, not staggered
Super busy at work. Will update tomorrow.
In 48 hours I am running a con for three days, As the con is also on a cruise ship at sea my comms will be pretty much nil.
It's going to be really busy - but it is the test run event for another large regional con I am planning in 2020 (cough not-a-Paizocon South Pacific honest).
I have bought the wifi package but it has a terrible reputation of being slow as the continental drift (it was also horrid expensive) but yeah slow internet and a con being run (especially on a busy cruise ship) means time will be at a premium :)
We're sailing out of Sydney for a few days, but we have a stacked roleplaying schedule as well as a stacked entertainment schedule. If the con goers arent a burnt out shell of themselves come the monday from fatigue and too much party hard I will have failed.
Frost, absolutely fair question. I really read the sections three times. :-( See here:
Amenopheus’s ritual to extract Tahari works, but she is far more powerful than he had expected. What’s more, her command of the sage jewels exceeds those of the assembled sages. She uses the jewels to overwhelm their respective sages. She uses the jewels to overwhelm their respective sages and siphons immense amounts of power from each gem (see the Siphoned Sage Jewels sidebar). This process traps the sages in emotional mindscapes fed by their own insecurities, doubts, and regrets, leaving all but the ritual leader indefinitely dazed until the PCs free them from their respective mindscapes or [SPOILER].
Then it continues with:
Aryana Tahari has an especially powerful command over the ritual’s leader (either Amenopheus or Tahonikepsu), who is staggered but otherwise under the ghost necromancer’s command.
I am open to discussions if you believe I should rule differently!!
I’m suggesting that once an incorporeal creature steps into a solid object, that under the rules for that it has total cover from us and we have total cover from it, and that even though it retains awareness of the squares adjacent to the wall even those incur a normal blinded 50% miss chance if it tries to strike even those.
If we go with the dominate person rules where they use the telepathic link to the victim they get an understanding of what is happening but not a visual.
That should be making such finite command and control difficult (dropping fireballs into precise spots) If he’s protected from us completely then to some degree that should go both ways. If she’s out of the wall to target us then we should be able to target her back :)
Of course Tahari doesn’t need to be able to see the victim to control them however.
My thought anyway.
Then again this seems far greater than dominate person which requires actions to change instructions to the victim
Thanks a lot Shifty!
I completely understand your reasoning. Dominate person was exactly the proxy that I was using although the scenario does not mentiön that and does not allow the leader a save or something like that.
So if we assume she commands telepathically to destroy all Pathfinders without really being aware where you all are.
Then Amenopheus would do what she says to his best abilities so he would need to have line of sight to you not Tahari, correct? If that is not correct I will change his actions.
Nah fair enough, looks like it is some special effect. Maybe I just have to run with what they suggest.
Also, that fireball is 30' radius, so seems too large :)
Ahh! Super Sorry!! 20 ft on the map now.
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I'm a little on the early side, but I just wanted to give everyone a headsup.
We recently sold our house and bought a new one, and our moving date is August 28th. So needless to say that next week is going to be busy, and there will be a time where I don't have internet access.
I'll keep posting for as long as I can, but if I seem to go silent, then please be sure to bot me as needed.
Sorry. My turn. :-( will post Monday
Back!
Everything we hoped for and more. It was awesome.
A few (four) people got horribly seasick the first night, but I also pointed out to them that I spotted two who had gone directly to the bar upon boarding and were crushing tinnies all afternoon, and perhaps it wasn't the 'motion of the ocean, but rather the content of their potion' that was to blame.
It was huge though, and we will be doing it again.
Hi folks,
By now you've probably seen your GM's post in Flaxseed discussion. As you know from GM Nowruz's generous comments earlier, I have run this scenario previously. I am standing by to take over and get you to the finish line, if everybody is happy with that.
Yeah mate I am sure we'd appreciate that :)
Don't suppose the enemy is inclined to just give up the ghost (boom-tish) and surrender?
Hopefully we are almost at the end.
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Really sorry to hear Nowruz is having a bad time :(
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I agree shifty, Nowruz is one of the players here I have spent the most time playing with. I hope everything ends up well for him and he is able to rejoin our community soon.
Supervillian- That would be excellent! I am sure it is a pretty big knot to untangle, and unfortunately for me, it's been a while since I thought about this game since we were on a break. Is there anything we can do to help you "pick up" in the middle of what has to be the most complex combat in pathfinder?
Honestly that has been a bit of an issue - its a complex fight and in the long delays I'm kinda losing track :p
I am caught up - I will post a summary of the combat here in discussion.
This is undoubtedly one of the most complex encounters in PFS. I've played it and run it. There is a lot for GMs and players to keep track of, and I don't think I'd attempt it at a face to face table unless I had 8 hours or more.
I have two questions - whereabout what Tahari when she sunk into the ground and what direction should the Cloudkill be moving in?
Summary to follow shortly...
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Finale, action so far:
Round 1: Frost smites ermias dalla, readies an attack; Peridot bombs dalla; Amenopheus chucks a fireball at the pathfinders; (Dhiara has improved evasion she takes no damage from the fireballs); Agate casts a greater stunning barrier (fading light activation save passed); Tahari opens with dazing flaming sphere and cloudkill; Ischell LOHs and heals all his damage, then enlarges; Athum enlarges and smites Tahari; ermias hits Ahn once – retconned as a miss, as ermias lunged in cloudkill; Ahn should have taken 1 con damage, as sickened when he has to save; Ahn does LOH on self;
Round 2: Frost mounts her warhorse Ragnar; Peridot is dazed by sphere; Amenopheus staggered, just moves; Agate takes cure for fading light and casts gust of wind (this was two standards); 2 divs arrive; Tahari casts suffocation on Athum, followed by fading light contagion; One div charms Agate; Athum passes both saves (the suffocation should end here, just staggering Athum); Ermias hits Athum once and LOH's; Ahn smites a div and hits
Round 3: Frost smites Ermias, hits; Amenopheus fireballs; Agate, despite being charmed, is allowed to enter the mindscape of tahonikepsu – and frees her; Tahari physically attacks Athum with corrupting touch and casts Blindness on Ischell, who saves (boon expended so ok); the two divs fizzle their insect plagues; Athum fails his save against suffocation (an error) and drops to 0hp, unconscious (should have just taken 17hp damage from Tahari's touch) but he hits ermias first whilst staggered; Ischell destroys Ermias; Ahn LOHs and shoots a div (smite); Tahonikepsu uses her breath weapon – retconned to a physical attack as the divs are resistant to lightning; Peridot heals himself and Athum;
Round 4: Frost smites a Div, hits; Amenopheus fireballs (number 3); Tahari flies and casts Cloudkill using bonded object, both divs cast charm again; Ischell consumes a potion of fly and moves out of cloud; Ahn smites a div (hits once); Tahonikepsu breathes lightning on Tahari (8 damage after saving and incorp); Agate diplomacies (generous GM); Ragnar (steed) dies to cloud; Athum unconscious; Peridot dropped; Ishell enters dhiara's mindscape
Round 5: Frost uses LOH and smites (div); Amenopheus moves out of cloud (staggered); Agate casts Ball Lightning, to no effect (Tahari saves); blue div dies (cloud); yellow div tries to influence Agate (opposed CHA); Tahari withdraws into ground (generous GM); Athum is unconscious; Peridot is unconscious; Ischell frees Dhiara; Ahn moves and activates his nimbus of light; Tahonikepsu kills yellow div
Round 6: Frost channels to heal; Athum (healed to postive hp by Frost) stands up and retrieves his weapon; - but acts after Amenopheus; Peridot (healed by Frost) moves (double); Amenopheus fireballs (number 4; targets Ahn, Ishell, Athum); Agate dim doors next to sinuhotep; Athum down to -1hp (corrected for suffocation retcon); Tahari to act;
OK, conclusions: GM Nowruz has made a a few plays or errors in your favour and one (very commonly made imho) error against you. I will retcon the error against you, since it would result in Athum's death: the Suffocation spell is negated except for 1 round of the Staggered condition if the initial save is passed. Athum has missed out on an action or two, but I think that is balanced by the extra action that Agate was allowed and by the way in which GM Nowruz has played the Charm Monster effect and had Tahari retreat instead of throwing two more spells at you, so I don't propose any further retcons.
I'll get a gameplay post up later tonight all being well (I'm on UK time by the way).
Round 5. Dhiara will act in round 6. It is, therefore, Dhiara's turn. I will put up a new combat tracker in gameplay.
Acted for Dhiara! :)
Ahn, when you're within the cloudkill, you've no way to know for sure. You'd need a Status spell or similar effect. However you'd have heard the telltale <whoompf> of another fireball going off, you'd have heard cries of alarm and the crash as something big hits the deck. I'd allow a DC12 Perception check to recognise that "something big" as Athum falling over. (DC already modified for distance).
But if you've moved out of the cloudkill, you'll see what's going on :)
Ischell, I had recalculated your damage based on you being inside Dhiara's mindscape when the last fireball went off (consequence of the posting order), which would have meant an effective DEX of 0 for you; but as you freed Dhiara, you are out of the mindscape before that fireball hits and you pass the save. You have your hp total correct.
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Thanks GM. I thought that was the difference between the damage as well (save on fireball). I had a hard time telling the timing for the mindscape things, so that might be part of it too.
Regardless, after the channel from Ahn Ischell would have been up to full one way or another.
Thanks for the explanation
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Metagame question: Does Tahari have DR that resists smite?
She had 17 damage at the start of this round. Took 33 smite damage from Ischell, and then 18 from the dragon= but only has 49 damage? Even if she resisted all the dragon’s damage- all 33 of ischell’s should get her to at least 50.
Sorry to HP count like this. I jus know that I am about to get blasted this next round, and doubt that I have more than one round of face to face combat with her as long as she can cast 2 spells/round.
Incorporeal means only half goes through - could be partially that too.
It's her incorporeality. Paladin Smite does nothing to prevent incorporeality halving incoming damage from a corporeal source.
Wait we saved the person who can grant rerolls? Yay. Also we should use that ability.
Indeed, though Dhiara must be within 30 feet of you to grant you a reroll (attack roll or saving throw). She also grants a static +1 Dodge bonus to AC and a +1 to reflex saves to allies within 30 feet of her.
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Anthum may need one of those rerolls...
I kinda need Anthum to save or die before I decide what Ahn does... though, maybe I need to just let him go and focus on trying to damage... though maybe Anthum can put out more damage than Ahn (who's not much of a damage dealer.)
Again, leave at 10AM tomorrow... offline until Monday night. I think Anthum is already offline during his move.