
DoubleGold |

There were several who wanted in, but after this dungeon I may do some recruiting. You have about 3 dungeons in a row to go through at this point as this adventure is a dungeon heavy game. Going to let people sort out the loot before I continue.
For those wondering, no I don't plan to be done with book 1 before the start of Gameday, though likely during it.

Aranor Cruz |

I checked this thread to see how you all were doing and if there was anything I could do to make the transition easier. Thank you all for your kind words; I appreciate them.
For tracking loot, this inventory sheet was up-to-date as of us leaving the tomb. I think Akku's ioun stone was the only item gained in town. Please feel free to make a copy of it, or use it as a reference when creating your own inventory.
As for Ivan's healing; I believe Akku has Inflict Wounds on his spell list. If you can afford a wand, (maybe one with fewer charges at a discount?), he can use it to heal you.
Again, I wish you all the best.

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There were several who wanted in, but after this dungeon I may do some recruiting. You have about 3 dungeons in a row to go through at this point as this adventure is a dungeon heavy game. Going to let people sort out the loot before I continue.
For those wondering, no I don't plan to be done with book 1 before the start of Gameday, though likely during it.
Are you certain you've got the full Adventure Path for us?
I was under the impression that Adventure Paths were the sort of things where you'd expect to go all the way from 1 to 20...and if that isn't always true, I'd have thought that this one was one for which it was true, being intended as the final AP for what shall soon be known as Pathfinder 1st Edition.

DoubleGold |

I'm talking about the first book of the AP there Ivan. An entire adventure path is six books.

Akku |

Today is the last day I can post until next week. I'll check often via mobile phone but nothing fancy for a while...

Rali Mithralfist |

Between packing tonight, traveling, and doing con related things, I will be busy with GenCon from now until Sunday. I don't expect to be caught up to speed until Monday or Tuesday.
If any of y'all will be playing organized play at GenCon and want to meet up, send me a PM! I enjoy the tables much more when playing with a friend.
I will continue to read posts through the RSS feed and may drop in for a post, but please bot me whenever it becomes necessary.

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So, have we done the shopping/selling we were going to do, or not?
Also, now that I've gained a level, how does my increased Performance threshold interact with the rounds I've already expended today?

DoubleGold |

You can just add items to your inventory and subtract the gold.
You did take several long rests, so you regain all performance uses, unless they take weeks to recharge.

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What about selling (which is the main thing I was interested in)?
Did the Appraise checks I made (see Gameplay thread) let me sell any of them for more than half-price?

DoubleGold |

You mean there is no Appraise Guide that tells you that you marked it up a percentage at a certain dc. You sold items for 20% more.

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Ah. Thank you. May we apply that rate to all the other stuff we were going to sell according to our inconveniently-departed player's nifty inventory sheet?
Are you saying there is such an Appraise Guide somewhere? Could you please provide a link if so?

DoubleGold |

Probably not a guide somewhere, you took the appraise skill, I assume you did your research.
Yes, you can apply that to all stuff you are going to sell.

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I'm afraid I don't see where the standard rules say anything about being able to improve selling rates. I figured this was made possible by your prerogative as DM, since it is something that should be a logical application of the skill outside the rigid economic controls of Organized Play.
Can others aid my check, potentially for a better rate still if they do well enough?

Akku |

Because this is campaign mode and not PFS sanctioned only mode, I vote we all just equip ourselves with character wealth by level table, except use a level equal to our PC's level plus one. This should put us all in the safe zone in terms of gear and it will remove the need for the GM to post loot and for the PCs to worry about dividing up the loot.

DoubleGold |

I might start doing it that way Akku, but eliminating findable treasures I found sometimes takes away from the story a little. Like, there is a story as to why that gold necklace was down there in that room or why you found a jade cat.

Akku |

Ok, cool to leave the nice juicy big items, like that ioun stone, and we take turn getting such cool baubles... but basically I'm suggesting just looking at the character wealth table when leveling up our PCs. After all these years checking out the prices of mundane equipment in the 10,000 rulebooks out there has lost its appeal to me. It basically means googling every item in a loot's list that you don't remember, and that sucks.

Akku |

I'm surprised of your vote considering all the back and forth you're doing with the GM and some of us regarding loot. It's really tedious if you ask me and I'd prefer to get on with the story... I would have expected you to be in favor of WBL for expediency.

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I was just trying to sort out a miscommunication about my Appraise rolls. It's the sort of thing that would almost certainly been solved much more efficiently were we at a face-to-face table.
I think WBL is tedious in a different way. I want to see what this adventure has to offer us.

Akku |

Fair enough hence my suggestion to do WBL + keep big items like the ioun stone. It's crunching numbers for leftover arrows, potions, MW armor and such other garbage I don't really have any time for. And if no one takes the task seriously, the GM ends up having to do it or it doesn't get done at all, with the players seriously under value (like we are now, I suspect)
PS: the APs assume that the players will sell anything that is not bolted down. Personally I think each AP book should provide a big huge number of gold pieces at the end of the book to show the total loot value for each adventure, instead of relying on GMs to go through the book line by line with a magnifying glass...

DoubleGold |

I will do gold by dungeon from now on and delete small items. For example you found gold and other mundane items. Next room, you found a jade cat (will be added to your gold pile), etc. +1 items (not stuff like arrows, more like weapons and armor), admantine items, certain scrolls (mostly healing and flying) and certain potions (mostly healing and flying) if useable stay. At the end of the dungeon I add the gold up and then add a couple of hundred for mundane stuff. The party leaves the dungeon with 8,000 gold for instance is what I write, so you only have to track gold once per dungeon. 6500 gold in gold and Jewelry and 1500 in mundane items (when really the mundane items when you add them might not be more than 1000 and Ivan still has a chance to appraise the total gold as he is appraising the jewelry and mundane items)

Akku |

Cool!

Akku |

just roll to hit... keep smite for the boss. these are not the boss.

DoubleGold |

Another group of toothfaires threatened the toothfairies that were helping you. The tooth fairies that were helping you are in the corner, while the ones against are fighting you. Right now they are at a civil war and the ones fighting you are higher CR than the tooth fairies on your side. The other creatures share the palace with the tooth fairies as you must get rid of these other creatures. These other creatures don't follow the contract you made with tooth fairies as it doesn't not benefit them.

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"Tooth fairy civil war"...
...you know, even in a fantasy game where the possibilities are supposed to be limitless, there are still some combinations of words, concepts, and images that you NEVER expect to see put together.

DoubleGold |

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Akku |

low connectivity for next week - switching provider. Should be back firing on all cylinders Sep 2 or 3. Meanwhile, please bot me.

Grod the Cunning |

I’m going to go ahead and bow out guys. I’ve been lost most of this AP, y’all have probably hotter me as much as I’ve played. I’m not sure if it’s this game or if I’m just too busy IRL, but it’s probably best for everyone. Thanks for the chance, GM.

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Dasvidaniya, Grod...
I’ve been lost most of this AP, y’all have probably hotter me as much as I’ve played.
...but before you go, what does this mean? I'm a tad bewildered.

DoubleGold |

Grod, you did play through enough of the game that you can still have your chronicle when this book finishes if you want.

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If we'd had time to shop, I've liked to buy a masterwork violin and flute, and masterwork studded leather - do we have 425 gp for that?
Tracking party wealth's gotten spottier since we lost our Oracle.

DoubleGold |

Alright, so where to next? If I don't hear a location, I'll move you all along somewhere next this evening.

Akku |

Next room please: I tend to like going in the order presented by the adventure i.e. room 1, 2, 3, etc.

DoubleGold |

Paizo has been down most of today, if it stays up, I'll see if I can get an update in.

DoubleGold |

I'll let you roleplay with the dog for a bit and each other and update tonight

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I've scrolled all the way down, and...I can't see anybody, neither monster nor adventurer.
Also, I've been saying for a while that I wanted to have purchased a few things last time we had an opportunity to do so, but you haven't said anything about that.
Who's tracking our treasure?

DoubleGold |

You had a chance when to purchase stuff when you were in that odd town, but you are on the dead roads, so you won't be able to do so for a while.
Just add gold to your inventory as I say how much it is. Like I say party gets 5000 gold and there are 5 of you, just simple add 5000. I show how much gold you get at the end of the dungeon. Consumables and magic items there are very few of since I'm converting most into gold. You are there on the map, not all the way down, but past that line that divides. One way to find yourselves is to use the zoom out button, then once you know where you are at, zoom in.

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We're not communicating very well; this is a problem. I'm having a hard time reading what you're saying.
Also, it's not fair if you're saying I missed my chance at the last shopping opportunity, because I tried to take it at the time, and said so, but you never got back to me in time.
I did just figure out what was wrong with the map, though; I went down, but I didn't go sideways, so mea culpa on that one.

DoubleGold |

You were suppose to just buy what you need and move on. You asked about treasure tracking several times, and I've already explained it to you.
You said you'd like to buy a masterwork violin, but it is up to you to know how much gold you have. And anyone that has played D&D knows you have to be in town to buy stuff. You don't need to tell me what you bought or roleplay it, just buy it, subtract the gold and add the item. If you were worried about someone tracking the loot, why didn't you do it?
Edit: You can add items to your inventory now if you wish as if you had bought them back in the weird town. But from now on, if you don't buy stuff when in town, you miss your chance.

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The player who left us made us a very nice loot-tracking chart.
Has anyone been maintaining it?
Also:
Just add gold to your inventory as I say how much it is. Like I say party gets 5000 gold and there are 5 of you, just simple add 5000.
Did you *mean* 5000 here, or should that have read '1000'? Knowing that would help a lot.

DoubleGold |

Yeah, typo, add 1000.
Nobody has said anything about maintaining it, which means no.
When this dungeon ends, I will hand out extra gold and give out the good magic items. Maintain it from there, that should make up for the losses. Like if this dungeon was suppose to give you 4,000, I might make the gold 7,000 to make up for losses you incurred from forgetting about the loot sheet.

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So: How much gold, to date, have we acquired?
Also, what about those masterwork musical instruments we just found? Now that's what I call LOOT! What kinds of instruments were they all?
Also, I'm still hoping you can find us replacements for the players we lost.