Is Lore (The Boneyard) too broad? I want to pick a lore (or two) that reflect Rali's role as a Soul Shepherd and assistant to the psychopomps. Also strongly considering Lore (Psychopomp) and Lore (Cycle of Souls).
Any thoughts, DoubleGold?
The Lore Boneyard is kind of broad.
Other stuff you mentioned confuse me or a bit broad.
Though if you want, you can pick Lore of Roslar's Tomb, the entire map will be revealed. If you roll high enough, you'll know descriptions of every creature, where they are likely to be assuming they didn't move, what is in a specific room before you enter it, including any built in but not recently manmade traps.
Lore I can tell the difference between and undead and a construct made to look undead.
Letting people update characters before I move on
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Rali is a Soul Shepherd. The Soul Shepherd description says:
Whether studying at the feet of psychopomps or merely imitating the creatures' philosophy and methods, soul shepherds believe in safeguarding the Cycle of Souls.
Psychopomps are the outsiders that watch over the Boneyard and generally help manage the Cycle of Souls for Pharasma. Since they are a subtype of a creature type it feels to me like they are a narrow enough scope for my lore. I would call it metagamey except that my archetype specifically references the *and* I doubt we'll fight any of them.
Here is a cool thread where James Jacobs answered some questions about the Cycle of Souls.
I was leaning towards a rank in Lore (Psychopomps) and a rank in Lore (Cycle of Souls). If that is okay with you (considering the explanation above).
Here is what the Lore Background Skills description said about the specificity level of Lore selections
The category of a Lore skill can vary widely from that of another Lore skill. It could be regional (such as a city or country), about a discipline (such as cryptography), or related to a narrow set of people (such as famous musicians). The scope of region-based Lore skills can also refer to specific subcategories, such as taverns in a particular region.
A Lore skill must be narrow—far narrower than the most relevant Knowledge skill. The broader the scope of a given category of Lore, the shallower your knowledge is on that topic. If you know about taverns in a wide region, you know less about each of them than you would if you had Lore in taverns of a specific city. Lore skills normally can’t be used to identify monsters the way Knowledge skills can, unless they refer to a specific type of monster (such as owlbears or vampires). If Lore involves a common, broad category of race or monster, it needs to be more specific. Lore (elves) would be too broad, as would Lore (dragons).
So my interpretation is that Lore (Outsiders) is too broad but Lore (Psychopomps) is probably not.
Oh, you mean the creatures, yeah I was googling Psychopomps and it gave me Greek Mythology stuff.
Yeah those ranks are fine in Psychopomps.
Cycle of Souls seem to cover five different things and seems way too good for a Lore. I'd be jumping all over the place just keep track of something like His Cycle of Souls post by Menuer confused me ever more.
I see it the reverse way. The Cycle of Souls is purely a knowledge, religion topic, and a relatively narrow one at that. Knowledge religion covers the Cycle of Souls, along with every other philosophy related to Pharasma and every philosophy related to every other deity. Lore (Cycle of Souls) would cover lore just about the particular Cycle of Souls philosophy. It would not cover other beliefs, lores, philosophies, etc related to the afterlife, death, reincarnation, etc.
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...but the player has a right to make a case. :)
I can see it both ways. The Cycle of Souls is no small potato of a topic, since it encompasses, or is at least relevant to, literally almost all of existence, BUT if you view it as a subset of Pharasmin theology, or even a nexus of Knowledge (Planes) and Knowledge (Religion), it makes sense as a Lore topic - maybe, given its immense scope and import, it could be argued that while you can take it as a Lore skill, it should nonetheless cost a non-Background skill rank.
I see it the reverse way. The Cycle of Souls is purely a knowledge, religion topic, and a relatively narrow one at that. Knowledge religion covers the Cycle of Souls, along with every other philosophy related to Pharasma and every philosophy related to every other deity. Lore (Cycle of Souls) would cover lore just about the particular Cycle of Souls philosophy. It would not cover other beliefs, lores, philosophies, etc related to the afterlife, death, reincarnation, etc.
Yes, I was under the impression it did this. You have have Cycle of Souls.
Done. Thank you for hearing me out. I will update my profile here later but I have added lore psychopomps, and lore, cycle of souls to my copy of my sheet.
...and everyone wins! :P
I will be at a conference for work next week (M-F) with very limited time to post. There should be a Bot Me spoiler in my profile (please let me know ASAP if it is missing or empty) that you can use to bot me if any actions are waiting on me.
Hopefully I'm not overstepping, but I've created a basic party inventory sheet in Google Docs. Link here.
There are two tabs. "Party Inventory" is where I put all the generic treasure as well as anything not specifically claimed by a player. (Or, as in the case of Ivan's short sword, something that was claimed but later offered back up.) I've included the GP value listed on Archives of Nethys for each item, as well as a column for Keep/Sell.
"Individual Loot" is where I put items currently claimed by a player. I included the GP value of those items, who claimed the item in question, and the date. While presumably players are keeping track of those items in their own inventory, it's nice to have a record.
Anyone with the link can edit, so feel free to make changes if you notice something I missed. However I don't mind being the official inventory tracker if others aren't interested.
Good job.
Hi DG: so Akku will do the ritual and everyone else curbstomps the wraiths yes? if the mites help can we say they take a wraith and we do the other one? let me know when you want Siiska's actions..
So I was thinking of using calm spirit on the wraith (Rali can do it instead of stunning fist). But after reading the description I am not sure it does us much good. It works kind of like a reverse sanctuary. Does anyone benefit from being able to see the wraith but not attack it for up to a minute?
Akku: There is only one Wraith/spectre, if I put down two, it was a mistake
Rali: You can't see the creature until you summon it. Therefore to see it for 1 minute and not attack, you'd have do nothing for 10 whole rounds.
Once a day Rali can use Calm Spirit if he succeeds at a melee attack roll.
Calm Sprit:
Target one incorporeal undead creature or haunt
Duration 1 minute or 1 round/level; see text
Saving Throw Will negates or none; see text; Spell Resistance yes
This spell temporarily calms agitated haunts and incorporeal undead such as ghosts. You have no control over the affected creatures, but calm spirit postpones hostile action by the affected spirits for the duration of the spell. Entities so affected cannot take violent actions or do anything destructive, including triggering persistent haunt abilities, though they can defend themselves. Any aggressive action against or damage dealt to a calmed spirit or haunt immediately ends the effect.
Haunts do not receive a saving throw against the spell, but the caster must succeed at a caster level check whose difficulty is equal to at least 10 + the haunt's CR in order to temporarily calm the angry entity. The spell's duration changes to concentration (up to 1 round/level) when affecting a haunt.
"Any aggressive action against or damage dealt to a calmed spirit or haunt immediately ends the effect."
Yo DG: just got the Plane-hopper's handbook, and there's this feat I'd like to take instead of my Dodge feat which I put there as a placeholder until level 2:
Ghost Hunting Team
Your loathing of undead is so great that even your allies can
feel it.
Prerequisites: Duskwalker, ghost hunter racial trait.
Benefit: When you use your ghost hunter ability to grant
your weapons the ghost touch special ability, you can also affect
the weapons of allies within 30 feet of you. You can activate
ghost hunter an additional time each day.
Let me know if I can take this.
Yep, that ain't particularly broken considering you won't fight incorpereal creatures till much much later. You can take it.
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Ah, I see. The feat right there. Nevermind my question in gameplay, Akku.
Rali is leveled up. Note that instead of evasion he has DR 2/adamantine, cold resistance 5, and electricity resistance 5. I took dodge as my level 2 bonus feat and picked up intimidate as a class skill.
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How will hit point advancement work in this game?
Also, DM, will you permit me access to the expanded options for summon monster shown here?
I also might want to work on and PM you a 'custom list' of monsters for me to summon, perhaps requiring I take the Expanded Summon Monster feat.
That looks like normal summon monster options. It is under the summon monster spell, so how is that expanded? Yes, you can take the things in the table that say alternative.
Advancement is done by XP, but even if you know the XP of the monsters and calculate it, there is story XP and XP of traps you bypass.
Hit points are PFS style. GM answered in the recruiting thread. So a Bard gets 5hp per level.
Grod is ready to go.
We are...
...ready! :)
Main level 2 update:
Bonded Senses (Su)
At 2nd level, as a standard action, a spiritualist can share the senses of her manifested phantom, hearing, seeing, smelling, tasting, and feeling everything her phantom does. She can use this ability a number of rounds per day equal to her spiritualist level, but those rounds do not need to be consecutive. There is no maximum range for this effect, but the phantom and the spiritualist must be on the same plane. The spiritualist can end this effect as a free action.
I am on vacation this week. I will be keeping up with my games off and on via RSS, but please do not hold anything up waiting for me. There should be botting instructions in my profile. Do not hesitate to use them to move things forward.
I'm very sorry, but after careful consideration I've decided to bow out of this game.
Please don't take this as me having a problem with any of you; you've all been great to play with. My playstyle just doesn't seem to be meshing well.
Since everyone just leveled and you're starting a new section, I think this would be a good time to recruit a new player if you choose to do so. Aranor can stay behind with the folk's in Rossler's Coffer.
Again, I apologize for any inconvenience this causes. I wish you all the best.
If I do recruiting, it will be when a new book starts, unless we lose a lot of people.
@DG: is the party resting before we start the next part or is there urgency in taking the dead roads?
Sorry to see you go, Aranor. I was hoping to have Rali help you find your father when we ran out of time in that area. :-(
I will echo Rali's sentiment. Sorry to see you go. If you change your mind in a week or two we'll be here! :)
PS: I will assume we rested a night or two as we travel with the psychopomps as the GM's post sounded like it's a long stretch of travel...
We are...
...ready! :)
Level 3 update complete.
Justus will buy a masterwork axe.
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@Akku: I really could use the Ioun Stone a great deal more than your Phantom, as I am:
- an individual PC rather than a Companion
- more vulnerable than the rest of you (especially now that we've lost our Oracle, which causes a number of problems - I wish one of our Paladins were willing to reconsider his class; becoming an Inquisitor with the special Trapfinding trait Aronor had could be a good compromise)
- proficient in many useful Dexterity-based skills (your Phantom may have some of those, too, but I have even more)
@Ivan: my phantom is front-line tank and needs it for AC as well as for her attacks (Weapon Finesse); also, my PC will also use the Ioun Stone when the phantom shares his consciousness; he is also a front-line tanker so will need it for AC. He does not benefit from whips or other reach weapon. He'll be up there with a scythe, and his pool of hit points is low. As I said, let's roll for it: this is only until you can buy a Dex belt anyway (which you might be able to do now: how much money do we have btw???)
Finally, the ioun stone works better on a phantom than a belt as it is slotless and thus will not take the belt slot out of Akku (phantoms and spiritualists SHARE magic item slots... so ioun stones like this are vital to their build)
I will echo Rali's sentiment. Sorry to see you go. If you change your mind in a week or two we'll be here! :)
PS: I will assume we rested a night or two as we travel with the psychopomps as the GM's post sounded like it's a long stretch of travel...
You may or may not have rested before you left, but it was a long stretch of travel, so it took more than one day to get there.
PS: I'm not going to make you track food and stuff, just a pain to do that.
@Akku: I really could use the Ioun Stone a great deal more than your Phantom, as I am:
- an individual PC rather than a Companion
- more vulnerable than the rest of you (especially now that we've lost our Oracle, which causes a number of problems - I wish one of our Paladins were willing to reconsider his class; becoming an Inquisitor with the special Trapfinding trait Aronor had could be a good compromise)
- proficient in many useful Dexterity-based skills (your Phantom may have some of those, too, but I have even more)
It’s a little late for that, isn’t it? Why an Inquisitor?
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It’s a little late for that, isn’t it? Why an Inquisitor?
A little, but the game's still very young, and the main thing is our party composition's just changed unexpectedly.
Why an Inquisitor? Just a suggestion. Like a Paladin, it's a holy warrior with divine magic, innate alignment detection, and a hallmark combat ability not wholly unlike Smite, but it also has more of the versatility and roguish/outdoors skills we'll need, as well as the ability to learn/cast/use wands and scrolls of inflict spells.
You have an opportunity to change during the next book. Otherwise people will jump on that bandwagon and just start changing classes when they feel like it. We are on page 19 of the book, so about a 1/3 as most APs have the last combat on 60 and the rest is just background stuff.
At least please consider lettting him change his stuff so that his bard can give us inspire courage!! :P :P :P {{ totally selfish request and meant as a joke: play what you want, not what others want you to play... but... if you happen to gain back inspire courage in the shuffle... LOL! :P :) :D }}
almost done leveling but haven't picked a feat. Right now I am leaning pretty strongly towards Extra Ki, but I will already have 4. Any suggestions?
Oh, I like that! I might start with Combat Stamina, though... That will give me more mileage out of any other combat feats I pick (and the ones I already have).
GM, will you allow Calming Strike to be used for anything that requires Stunning Fist?
Yes you can use Calming Strike. And for those that asked about loot. You just divide up the gold, decide who gets what items and go shopping, which you can do and I'll say you did that back at the city.