Adventurers for Hire - The Red Dragon Inn (Inactive)

Game Master Nairb the Grey

Greetings. The interest check went well enough that I do not have an excuse to not run this game, so here we go!
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On the outskirts of the town of Marikest sits The Red Dragon Inn. Situtated just off the road outside the town gates, the inn is the favored watering hole for travellers, townsfolk, and adventurers that happen to be passing through. It is a rowdy place full of good drinks, good games, and good fights. It also happens to be the place that Sheriff Reg Ty-Djarling goes when looking for extra muscle for a job that his to deputies and him do not have the bandwidth to handle.

He has come with such a job this evening, and is sitting down with various mercenaries and adventurers in the inn looking to put together a group to investigate a nearby keep for him.

"Ahyeah, I'm looking for some people to head out to Brightstone and take a look around. Make sure them filthy monsters haven't come back. Years ago there was a nice little sister village down there at the mine, and Brightstone kept an eye on it all. Then the Orcs and Goblins came and wiped them out. Started running raiding parties on us here too. When the army came through a few months back they took most of my deputies off my hands, but at least they went and cleared out Brightstone too. I wasa hopin' that they would sit at the castle, make it sort of a base, but apparently it is too far away from the front. So now the keep is abandoned again, and I don't have the hands to keep an eye on it. If ye head out there and take a turn around, make sure it is still vacated, I would pay ye 100 gold each. If'n ye find anything though, well in the interest of keeping Marikest safe I would need you to clear it out again. Get to keep whatever treasure you find with the monsters that be there. And I could probably through in another 100 each for your troubles."

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Begin OOC text:
Welcome to Red Dragon Inn, one of my favorite board games now turned into an RPG group. The premise is simple, this will be a standard Pathfinder game with one caveat, the characters are already decided, you just have to build them. Each of you will be playing one of the characters from the Red Dragon Inn board game. Their personality and basic archetype is set by the game, but how you build them within that framework is up to you.

So let's get into it:

Starting Character Level: 5th - I want you to be able to build characters that resemble some of the abilities of the characters in the board game, so we will be starting a bit higher.

Expected Character Growth: I am starting with a single short adventure to test the waters. Once you guys complete that and find the hook into the main adventure path I have planned we can keep going from there or wrap it up with the short adventure. If we keep going then we will probably make it to somewhere around 9 - 13...don't have everything planned out yet. If we stop then you will likely only make it to level 6.

Ability Scores, Races, Classes, Etc: We will be working with a 20 point buy, but I will be preferentially selecting characters that build there stats in line with what is implied by the character from the board game, so minmaxing could go against you. For example, Adonis is clearly a strong man type, even though as a Bard that may not be the most optimal place to put ability score points. If Adonis has a Strength score lower than probably 14 then I will not likely select that character. With as stacked as he is I would likely take an 18 over a 14 as well.

For Race: You are stuck with the race that the character has in the board game. Which means mostly humans, with a few more interesting things thrown in for fun. If you select one of the actual monsters (Gog, Phrenk, Natyli, and Kaylin) we will open up the ARG race builder for you to create a playable version of the race with an RP of 14 (in line with Common Drow like First Mate Remy.)

Classes: Anything Paizo is approved, but again you need to build within the constraints of the character as depicted in the board game. Cormac is indicated to be a Barbarian on the RDI site...so I am expecting to see rage powers. Nothing 3rd party will be accepted.

HP: HP will be max at first level and half rounded up at subsequent levels.

Wealth: You have wealth of 5th level characters (10,500) and standard spending rules apply (no items worth more than 50% of your networth). Also, if you have crafting feats then you get extra wealth specifically for those. We will be using the rules outlined here for that. If you have 1 crafting feat then you get 25% more wealth, so 13,125, 2625 of it must be used on items that you craft yourself. If you have more than one crafting feat then you get 5% additional wealth for each one beyond the first you have, up to a max of 50%. Remember, I will not be expecting to see crafting feats on RDI characters that do not look like they craft. (First glance I am thinking Phrenk, Natyli, Wizgille, and Wrench. Maybe a few others.) To be clear, this percentage is wealth, not gold...so the 2625 is value of the items, not gold you spent crafting them. Extreme example, you could use that to craft 52 CLW potions, not 104 (50 each, not 25 each).

Background Traits, Alternate Rule Sets, Etc.: We will be using Background Traits and Background skills. I feel like they help more with RP than anything else. 2 background traits, none from a Paizo AP since this is homebrew. We will also be using the race builder as mentioned above, you can build older characters that way Zot can actually be as old as he looks. If you know of another rules set published by Paizo that will help you get closer to the character as depicted in the board game bring it to my attention and I will look over it.

Multiple Submissions? Multiple submissions will be allowed for this game since I will only be selecting one of each specific character. (No party of Deirdres running around). When creating more than one character let me know which one you are most interested in playing and give me kind of a ranking. I will do my best to get everyone as high up in their ranking as possible. At the same time, if you submit a character I am going to assume it is because you have some interest in playing him or her.

I think that is everything? It probably isn't. I always forget something. Ask questions and I will answer.

I look forward to seeing the submissions.

Dotting! I'm gonna throw in for Natyli, Wizgelle, and Tara the Navigator.

Since the characters' personalities are largely established (albeit vague in some cases), to what extent do you want us to write backstories or suggest how we'd want to play them from a narrative standpoint?

Dotting! I'm gonna throw in for Natyli, Wizgelle, and Tara the Navigator.

Since the characters' personalities are largely established (albeit vague in some cases), to what extent do you want us to write backstories or suggest how we'd want to play them from a narrative standpoint?

That is an excellent question. I am thinking we just do writing samples rather than a 5 minute background or some such. RP both sides of your conversations with other denizens of the RDI and show us how you see the character interacting. You can even RP with other submission characters if you want, although probably avoid your doppelgangers, that could get awkward.

I'll dot this and see what I can throw together. I think I'll throw out Bryn and Fiona, seeing as those two got less attention in the interest check.

I want Adonis to be a
Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) VMC Bard
or
Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1 / Bard 4
with a focus on STR and CHA and very low dex and wis. It will be a rather sub-optimal build either way

I want Adonis to be a

Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) VMC Bard
or
Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1 / Bard 4
with a focus on STR and CHA and very low dex and wis. It will be a rather sub-optimal build either way

How do you see making use of his flute, lyre, and drum? In my head I imagined Adonis being some kind of combination bard/improvised weapon user to turn his musical instruments into actual melee weapons.

I am not opposed to the Scaled Fist, I like the flavor of a warrior "of unshakable confidence"...I just don't know if the energy damage boost fits the character as a class feature rather than a magical item, you know?. Maybe if there was an option to do sonic damage...but sonic is in a different weight class from the base elements, so I understand why it isn't there.

Just some rough thoughts. Show me the full build and we can talk more on it...I might like what you come up with.

I am okay with VMC to get closer to a specific character's depicted archetyp.

Considering building Deirdre the Priestess as a cleric with the blossoming light archetype.

I'm interested.

Full disclosure, I've never played the board game, but I have seen it on gaming shelves and have an idea of the premise.

Are we just going off the names for personality, or is there a place I can look up that info for a better feel?

I'm interested.

Full disclosure, I've never played the board game, but I have seen it on gaming shelves and have an idea of the premise.

Are we just going off the names for personality, or is there a place I can look up that info for a better feel?

If you go to this link here, you will find a page that shows a brief description of the characters. There isn't a huge amount to go on, but it is a starting point for their personality and basic build. I am seeing it kind of like a writing prompt if you will. For Example:

Deirdre the Priestess Deirdre uses the power of the Goddess to protect and heal her friends and to smite the wicked creatures of the deep dungeons. She’ll also smite anyone who treats her like a bimbo, even though she’s not above working her good looks get her way.

The Good: The Goddess keeps Deirdre protected from harm.

The Bad: The Goddess’s protection does not help against alcohol. Deirdre is a cheap date.

So a healer that can use her good looks to charm and her divine powers to woop on people that treat her poorly. Probably a cleric or some other divine with a decent charisma and some points in diplomacy and bluff I would guess.

As in the interest check, I'm most interested in: Natyli, Kaylin, Whitehook, Tara, and Zariah.

Now, off to figure out how to do a "pixie enchanter with a wolf animal companion" and a "half-troll witchdoctor with voodoo dolls" as my first attempts.

From the interest thread:

Since if I open up recruitment I have decided I will allow multiple applications from individual players since there will likely be some duplicate character choices and I will not be selecting more than one of any specific character. So if more than one character tweaks your fancy you can apply for all of them. During the application process you will give me a ranked preference and I will keep that in mind for selection.

I'm assuming this still holds?

Just a question, would you prefer the characters be uploaded in the same post, or is it alright to post them as you finish them?

i could play wrench as a wiz rogue trapper

Now, off to figure out how to do a "pixie enchanter with a wolf animal companion" and a "half-troll witchdoctor with voodoo dolls" as my first attempts.

I look forward to seeing what a Pixie and a half-troll look like coming out of the race builder. Should be fun.

I'm assuming this still holds?

Yes, multiple submissions are allowed.

Just a question, would you prefer the characters be uploaded in the same post, or is it alright to post them as you finish them?

You can submit them all at the same time or piece meal, but if you do one mega post please make liberal use of spoilers to make it a little bit more parse-able. Honestly submitting them one at a time would probably be easier for everyone involved.

In related news, since we are doing multiple submissions with the same actual characters, I will ask that aliases not be created until selection is done. I had thought about that before but forgot to put it in the initial post.

@ OP: Thank you, that was very helpful. After looking them over, I feel drawn to the following three:

Lizwick the Collector

Fleck the Bard

Eve the Illusionist

Not sure I have a preference at this time, but I'll be sure to rank them in order after I've slapped them together.

Here’s my first and preferred entry for this, Bryn the Boatswain.

I tried to include everything I could into the build about her. She’s not just strong, but tough as nails, so made Str and Con the same starting out. I looked up how much a cannon weighed and found out that two pound cannons weighed six hundred pounds. Strength wasn’t high enough to carry one, so I grabbed muleback cords so she could. Gave her Exotic Weapon Proficiency so she could actually use one, but sadly, cannons cost 6000, so no buying one to drag with her. Grabbed what I could to make her great at sailing, and grabbed the Masterwork Shipwright’s Tools to represent her hammer. Even snagged some Alchemist’s Kindness to hand out to fellow drunks!

I will not apologize for that, they’re sailors, and it just worked out so well!

Tiessa wrote:

Now, off to figure out how to do a "pixie enchanter with a wolf animal companion" and a "half-troll witchdoctor with voodoo dolls" as my first attempts.

I look forward to seeing what a Pixie and a half-troll look like coming out of the race builder. Should be fun.

Just a preview, not the final:

So far for Pixie (I was trying to mimic the bestiary entry)
4 pts: Advanced Ability Scores (Mental): -2 STR, +4 DEX, +2 INT, +2 WIS, +2 CHR
2 pts: Fey
-1 pt: Slow: 20' Movement Rate
0 pts: Small (the bestiary says Small, I think Tiny would be even more appropriate to Kaylin from the pictures, but it costs 4 pts for some unknown reason)
0 pts: Standard Language Group: Sylvan
4 pts: Flight: Fly 30' (Clumsy)
2 pts: Flight: Fly 40' (Poor)
3 pts: Fey Damage Reduction: 5/Cold Iron

Abilities: STR: 6, DEX: 20, CON: 12, INT: 16, WIS: 12, CHA: 16
Pretty close to the bestiary entry, keeping wisdom to the minimum fits into her temper.

I plan to play her as if she were Tiny (like Tinkerbell), even though for some strange reason Tiny costs 4 pts.

Class: Wildblooded Sorcerer, Sylvan Bloodline: Gives Animal Companion @ Level - 3, Min 1
This is actually perfect for building Kylin, both in flavor and abilities - I googled animal companions to find this combo.

Feat: Boon Companion: Class level is +4 for companion's abilities, max of actual class level
Makes Wulfric equal to her level and actually useful.

Taking Sorcerer gives me most of the spells of the pixie and I am primarily taking enchantment spells to fit into the Kaylin template. Spells like: Mage Hand and Prestidigitation for general mischief, Polypurpose Panacea (for Sobriety) for drinking, and Charm Person for enchantment

Background Skills:
Craft (Tattoo): She's a rebel with attitude, tattooing is a natural - especially for tattooing people who pass out drunk :D Granted they are tiny tattoos (this is going into the story).
Profession (Gambler): She plans to win the gambling hands and beware anyone who accuses her of cheating :)

Regular Skills:
Fly (of course), Spellcraft, UMD and Bluff (for gambling) and maxed Intimidate (I don't expect anyone ever to be intimidated by a 2' pixie, but she'll try anyway. Shaking her tiny fist and squeaking out her threat.)

Traits, I'm at a loss for finding anything too applicable. Either something to do with having longbow proficiency (like bestiary pixie), Enchantment, Drinking, or Angry Attitude

This has been a very fun exercise of trying to model this character.

I found a couple of traits that may prove useful:

Splash Attack (People of the River): You can throw liquid that you have in your hand (as long as it's at least a pint) and try to blind someone right next to you as a dirty trick maneuver without an AoO. Great for starting bar fights.

Iron Liver (Adventurer's Armory): +2 Fortitude vs poisons and drugs, +4 to avoid the effects of alcohol.

It's fun trying to maximize something other than combat prowess for a change.

Brolof, I really appreciated your RP sample that was great.

Looking over your build I think you have gotten into the spirit of the game wonderfully, you are clearly going with a build that is less optimized than it could be in favor of the character's flavor...thank you.

The only nit-picky thing of concern I see is that I don't think Muleback Cords and a Belt of Giant Strength will stack since they both are based on the spell Bull's Strength according to the crafting requirements. Since the Muleback cords are primarily to address a flavor thing (her carrying a cannon by herself) and you do not own a cannon right now, I don't know if it is that big of a deal...but I feel bad about you spending 1000 gold on a magic item that doesn't work since you already have another bonus elsewhere.

If I am interpreting the rules on that wrong though let me know.

Tiessa, your first draft for a pixie character using race builder looks great. I think the bonus spells you will get from the Fey (Sylvan) bloodline will really help you look like Kaylin. I don't have any constructive feedback at this point, but might have more to say when you finish your final draft.

Ellioti wrote:

I want Adonis to be a

Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) VMC Bard
or
Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1 / Bard 4
with a focus on STR and CHA and very low dex and wis. It will be a rather sub-optimal build either way

How do you see making use of his flute, lyre, and drum? In my head I imagined Adonis being some kind of combination bard/improvised weapon user to turn his musical instruments into actual melee weapons.

I am not opposed to the Scaled Fist, I like the flavor of a warrior "of unshakable confidence"...I just don't know if the energy damage boost fits the character as a class feature rather than a magical item, you know?. Maybe if there was an option to do sonic damage...but sonic is in a different weight class from the base elements, so I understand why it isn't there.

Just some rough thoughts. Show me the full build and we can talk more on it...I might like what you come up with.

I am okay with VMC to get closer to a specific character's depicted archetyp.

I see the instruments for what they are. They are used to make music for bolstering allies, discouraging enemies and most importantly seducing women. I thought about fighting with them, but that's one more feat chain that I could never afford.

Here's the preliminary crunch and RP sample. I still have to finish spending the beginning money, but it's essentially done.

Dotting. I'll work something up. So many characters to choose from.

The only nit-picky thing of concern I see is that I don't think Muleback Cords and a Belt of Giant Strength will stack since they both are based on the spell Bull's Strength according to the crafting requirements. Since the Muleback cords are primarily to address a flavor thing (her carrying a cannon by herself) and you do not own a cannon right now, I don't know if it is that big of a deal...but I feel bad about you spending 1000 gold on a magic item that doesn't work since you already have another bonus elsewhere.

If I am interpreting the rules on that wrong though let me know.

I just did a quick look at the two items. The Belt of Giant Strength gives an Enhancement Bonus. The Muleback Cords simply adjust carrying capacity as if your strength were 8 higher, no other benefit to strength-based rolls. As far as I know, there should not be a conflict as they are not the same type of bonus.

Your call GM, but that's my two coppers.

:/...I lean towards it being an unspoken Enhancement Bonus since that is what the bonus of the component spell is. But that is probably my interpretation and not rules as written.

Of course it is such a specific case that there is no faq or ruling on it. Meh. It is an edge case and doesn't really matter mechanics wise. I am willing to accept Fallen_Mage's point of view on it and handwave the thing.

If you want to be able to be the pack mule for the party more power to you.

I really didn't have much of an opinion either way, I just grabbed them to try and fit the character. If I didn't spend the thousand on the cords, it would have gone to giving my armor a +1 or a cloak of resistance.

You can go either way with it. I totally appreciate that you put so much work into fitting the character in the board game, that is entirely what the challenge is all about.

But, with the belt of strength and the already high base strength I would say that is close enough for government work if you wanted to use the 1k gold on something more optimal. Like I said, either way. The Muleback cords do work I've decided.

In other news, is the text in this thread Red for anyone else? I created a campaign so I could link in the interest tracker at the top, and now all of the text is red instead of black.

Nairb the Grey wrote:

Ellioti wrote:

I want Adonis to be a

Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) VMC Bard
or
Unchained Monk (Scaled Fist) 1 / Bard 4
with a focus on STR and CHA and very low dex and wis. It will be a rather sub-optimal build either way

How do you see making use of his flute, lyre, and drum? In my head I imagined Adonis being some kind of combination bard/improvised weapon user to turn his musical instruments into actual melee weapons.

I am not opposed to the Scaled Fist, I like the flavor of a warrior "of unshakable confidence"...I just don't know if the energy damage boost fits the character as a class feature rather than a magical item, you know?. Maybe if there was an option to do sonic damage...but sonic is in a different weight class from the base elements, so I understand why it isn't there.

Just some rough thoughts. Show me the full build and we can talk more on it...I might like what you come up with.

I am okay with VMC to get closer to a specific character's depicted archetyp.

I see the instruments for what they are. They are used to make music for bolstering allies, discouraging enemies and most importantly seducing women. I thought about fighting with them, but that's one more feat chain that I could never afford.

I want to do unarmed/unarmored combat while holding my instruments. Therefore I really need at least one level of scaled fist. If I wanted to be really good at fighting, I need to progress monk and get bardic performance and versatile performance from the vmc. I don't actually need bardic knowledge for my build, neither do I need the Draconic Fury (Su) ability. But no monk would ever use a ki point for 1d6 elemental damage anyways.
The bonus feats from the archetype are actually great, because they provide additional unarmed damage and some intimidate feats that fit the build well. Since for a monk, Weapon Focus (unarmed) really means WF (body), he can use Dazzling Display with his whole body. Which I see as...

That all makes sense to me. sounds like a good interpretation of the character. Run with it.

Considering building Deirdre the Priestess as a cleric with the blossoming light archetype.

Late response to this, sorry.

I like the concept. I worry that the archetype is pulling a lot from you without giving you much in return, but it looks like it could be fun.

In other news, is the text in this thread Red for anyone else? I created a campaign so I could link in the interest tracker at the top, and now all of the text is red instead of black.

Yes! Though oddly it goes back to black in the preview when writing a response.

It's red for me as well. I'll stick with the muleback cords, never know what potential shenanigans that be gotten into by being able to haul several hundred pounds at once. Also, I technically did optimize her... to be a sailor. Just the situation really doesn't work out in her favor.

So apparently the red ink in the campaign is from a known issue that occurs when you start a thread title with the words Red or Green. Personally I think it is a sign that Paizo is fans of Pokemon Fire Red and Leaf Green, but no confirmation on that yet.

My plan is once recruitment is done I will unlink the recruitment thread from the campaign. Hopefully that will keep the whole campaign from being Red.

This is an interesting concept although I don't have experience with the game. Looking through the list, I was drawn to Zariah as it would be interesting to have a chimera.

My first thought was do use the Summoner class. Using the original version and the quadruped eidolon, the main issue would be the breath weapon (available at 9th lvl). Flight may not be possible either in order to have 3 heads that can attack and it would have to stay Medium size. The other issue is the ability to summon a lion (available with Summon Monster IV at 7th lvl). A minor issue would be to find something to use as the ferret.

An alternate solution is to use the Druid class but Summon Nature's Ally has the same level restrictions on a lion and I don't see a way to get a chimera.

Any thoughts?

I actually think the Summoner class is the perfect place to go with Zariah. I think the main thing is looking at the cards for flavor and not specific mechanics.

For example, on the lion, Scrappy on the cards is depicted as a lion cub, with only a full maned adult lion appearing in the Chimera form.

So maybe Scrappy is flavored as a young lion, but we actually use the stats from a lower level Summon Monster for its stats. Taking a glance I would say maybe Leopard since it retains the grab, pounce and rake abilities.

As for the Eidolon Chimera, I think long term a true Chimera is a good thing to reach for, but if you look at the character in the game, it is not a pathfinder Chimera, but actually a chimera from the standpoint of a different definition of the word -"an individual, organ, or part consisting of tissues of diverse genetic constitution" Zariah's Chimera is an individual with a diverse constitution, specifically that of Scrappy, Bandit, and Amber put together. So it may not be built towards a pathfinder chimera but rather a custom 3 headed monster. Still difficult to do with 5th level evolution points, but I think as you level you could get there.

So my recommendation for the favorite summons would be:
Scrappy - Young Lion (borrow Summon Monster III Leopard Stats)
Bandit - Ferret (borrow Summon Monster I Dire Rat or Dog Stats) You could also summon 1d3 weasels using Summon Minor Monster if you would prefer that. Maybe Bandit and his brother and sister sometimes come along too?
Amber - use Small Water Elemental Summon Monster II

Her write up implies these are her hardest-working companions, but not her only ones...so you likely can summon other things, but it seems like these are her favorites.

In other news, is the text in this thread Red for anyone else? I created a campaign so I could link in the interest tracker at the top, and now all of the text is red instead of black.

Not red at all, none of it.

Nairb the Grey wrote:

In other news, is the text in this thread Red for anyone else? I created a campaign so I could link in the interest tracker at the top, and now all of the text is red instead of black.

Not red at all, none of it.

lol, right after I posted that, it all turned red - very nice.

Weird.

important ruling question: Do size bonuses and the bonus from Intimidating Prowess affect an Intimidate check when using Perform (Percussion) through Versatile Performance? Most discussions I found on this would they yes, because VP only replaces the skill ranks (and sometimes the attribute).

Red for me as well.

important ruling question: Do size bonuses and the bonus from Intimidating Prowess affect an Intimidate check when using Perform (Percussion) through Versatile Performance? Most discussions I found on this would they yes, because VP only replaces the skill ranks (and sometimes the attribute).

This is where I will land on this after a bit of research, because I think it avoids the pitfalls of the doubling bonuses/penalties that I have seen in different threads.

...When substituting in this way, the bard uses his total Perform skill bonus, including class skill bonus, in place of its associated skill’s bonus, whether or not he has ranks in that skill or if it is a class skill...

emphasis added

The way I interpret this is that Versatile Performance allows the bard to use any class skill bonus and skill ranks in the appropriate perform skill in leiu of the same in the appropriate replaced skill. All other bonuses or penalties the character has for the replaced skill would still apply, but no other bonuses or penalties from the Performance would (they are not specifically listed in the ability, whereas the class skill bonus is).

This means you do get the size bonus on Intimidate, but you cannot for example take skill focus Perform(x) and Skill focus Intimidate and double up on that bonus...or get a bonus for a magic item of performance buff and another one for a magic item of intimidate buff.

I thought about going to other way with it and allowing the other bonuses to come over too and override the bonuses on the replaced skill, but ultimately I think a halfling banging a small drum should be less intimidating than a giant banging a large drum. Yay for the giant bard! lol. So there you have it.

@GM: I found this trait that I believe would be perfect for Eve called Trickster (Magic Trait). However, it requires being a Gnome. I looked at the Adopted Trait and it states that you can choose a Racial Trait from another race that is not yours.

Would you allow me to take Adopted so I can take Trickster?

There's a glitch/feature that when a campaign has Red in the title the color of the text in the thread becomes red.

@GM: I found this trait that I believe would be perfect for Eve called Trickster (Magic Trait). However, it requires being a Gnome. I looked at the Adopted Trait and it states that you can choose a Racial Trait from another race that is not yours.

Would you allow me to take Adopted so I can take Trickster?

Works fine by me.

Shoot my multiple personalities are showing. Buhayra == Nairb.

If no one has snatched him up yet, and you are still looking for one more, I would enjoy playing Zakhan the Drunken Master. Character sounds like a mix of monk-fighter (brawler), barbarian, and maybe a drunken alchemist (for flavor). I haven't delved to deeply into archetypes or point buy yet, but i enjoy unarmed combat so I think i could enjoy this.

So, I decided to drop the Bard. Realized, I have no bloody clue how to play one properly. Anyway, here are the stats for Eve and Lizwick. I'll get the RP up a little later.

Both builds look perfect for their characters. I was surprised I didn't see a hat of disguise on Eve since that is the direction I have gone...probably too obvious though. I think the False Faces and the Choker are much better and more original. I was not able to find the blind eye doing a search with google...if you could hyperlink that for me, I haven't heard of it before.

Otherwise I look forward to seeing the RP and hearing which of the two you would prefer to play in the event that I have the choice of picking either.

The Blind Eye is a custom name for the white tiger's eye ring she wears. It's her bonded object and an heirloom from her adopted mother.

I got the idea for the choker from the picture in the board game. She has some sort of neck jewelry on, and that item seemed to fit with the description.

Honestly, it's a little hard. On the one hand, I can see the opportunity for many outside the box thinking with Lizwick and her collection. But I often play Rogues so she feels safe to play. However, I feel Eve calls to me more as an actual character with a potentially rich backstory.

Hmmmm...............

I'll go with Eve as the primary and Liz as secondary.

First draft for Adonis, crunch only for now