Whispers on the Wind: Dragoncat's Carrion Crown (Inactive)

Game Master Dragoncat

"Word is travelling. Ambition is stirring in distant cities... we can use this."
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Hello Paizo boards!

Due to real life circumstances, one of our players had to leave the campaign. We're about two-fifths of the way through the first book of the AP, and we're looking for two new players to join our merry little band.

CharGen Rules: 20 point buy. You will start at Level 2.

Races: Core & the following: Changeling, Dhampir, Orc. Other races may be considered with a good enough background.

Alignments: Any Non-Evil.

Classes: No Antipaladin, Ninja, Samurai, or Vigilante. Occult classes are especially appropriate for this AP.

Starting Wealth: Start at Level 2 Wealth.

HP Rolls: Max for 1st level, then half + CON +1 upon levelling up.

Traits: 2, with 1 being a Campaign Trait. You may take a Drawback for a 3rd trait.

We look forward to meeting you!

Hi!

I am very interested - but wondering what the group's current makeup is like? I am thinking of some kind of cleric or inquisitor depending on what roles are already covered.

I've never played carrion crown before. I'll look through the player info book and see if I can get inspired. Maybe for some kinda full caster, like a witch or a wizard or something. I have that itch again and it needs scratching.

Final edit: DEFINITELY feeling witchborn changeling for this, I'll figure out the rest after sleep time, goodnight.

Hi!

I am very interested - but wondering what the group's current makeup is like? I am thinking of some kind of cleric or inquisitor depending on what roles are already covered.

Our current party makeup is:

--a human occultist,
--a dhampir blight druid,
--and a half-orc warpriest of Arqueros.

i'm thinking some kind of spiritualist or wizard, the idea behind him is he's a non-evil necromancer type. The idea is he's a good kid, shy and quiet, who studies undead in an effort to proven necromancy it self isn't inherently evil.

I've never played carrion crown before. I'll look through the player info book and see if I can get inspired. Maybe for some kinda full caster, like a witch or a wizard or something. I have that itch again and it needs scratching.

Final edit: DEFINITELY feeling witchborn changeling for this, I'll figure out the rest after sleep time, goodnight.

Funny thing, that--the player who had to bow out was a changeling hedge witch. :)

dooooottttt

I may also take the grey necromancer approach, or I have another idea entirely with the kineticst.. or maybe a plain jane front liner will see where inspiration hits

Dotting as a psychic or kineticist

Would you say you you're more in need of skills or spellcasting? Or an additional frontliner?

Spellcasting would be quite welcome.

However, we're happy with well-made characters in general. :)

This dude was made for an evil campaign, but I can adjust him to a benevolent sort of chap!

Hello all! Here is Maxim; I'd made him for a different CC campaign where he wasn't accepted, so I figured I'd put him in here. I haven't made any adjustments from his original creation, but that shouldn't be too difficult.

I'll propose Ried ... I played Ried through Part 1 before and can scale him back to level 2 if selected.

Proposing Ladruca. He is a dhampir inquisitor. I played him for a small part of the first book of carrion crown, he was my first character on the boards. He's level 2 but his stats will need to be played with.

Also, nice Darkest Dungeon reference ;)

I made this character for another Carrion Crown game for which I was not accepted.

I've got a few questions.

First, what are you looking for in submissions? What aspects of the character are most important? I wrote this character with the following things in mind:

1) A compelling, interesting story was more important than an accurate picture of the character's personality.

2) I only had six paragraphs to write my background, which is a bit lower than I would have liked.

3) High writing quality was very important.

I imagine that with three players already, there are other considerations. For one thing, I imagine it makes my character's mechanical abilities substantially more relevant, as they should mesh well with the group. Likewise, if my character's personality seems substantially at odds with others in the group, that might influence your decision making.

Please let me know what you think and, if you like, take a look at my character as written.

I would like to submit Smaranda, dhampir Harrow Master monk. I am very interested in this AP, I played the very beginning of it some years ago but unfortunately the GM had to bow out soon after we started.

As a note, I was actually born in the real-life region of Ardeal.

GM_Carrioncat: I am GMing this AP both via PbP and IRL. I would like a chance to play the AP, though only if you are okay with it.

First, what are you looking for in submissions? What aspects of the character are most important? I wrote this character with the following things in mind:

1) A compelling, interesting story was more important than an accurate picture of the character's personality.

2) I only had six paragraphs to write my background, which is a bit lower than I would have liked.

3) High writing quality was very important.

I imagine that with three players already, there are other considerations. For one thing, I imagine it makes my character's mechanical abilities substantially more relevant, as they should mesh well with the group. Likewise, if my character's personality seems substantially at odds with others in the group, that might influence your decision making.

What I'm looking for in a character is a good backstory that allows me to get a good picture of what your character is like. I'm not looking for a novel--3 to 4 paragraphs will generally do just fine for me.

High writing quality is important as well.

I am GMing this AP both via PbP and IRL. I would like a chance to play the AP, though only if you are okay with it.

So long as you can keep in-character & out-of-character knowledge separate, I don't have a problem with it.

Hey! Submitting Barret! I have played through book 1 but that game unfortunately died off. Barret is a Mooncursed Barbarian. So would we be meeting up in Harrowstone?

It'd be more likely you'll be meeting up in Ravengro itself.

While I'm working on this, I assume that if I even try doing something like taking Blood Money to use with things like Animate Dead/Create Undead etc etc you would probably take a shillelagh to my face and I would probably deserve it.

So I guess what I am asking here is how well made would be too well made, because while I can do backstory all day long I don't know what power level you're looking for from a crunch standpoint.

You'd be correct in assuming that.

What I'd like to see would be a character that doesn't trivialize the AP's combat encounters too much--once or twice is fine, but getting cheesy after that will likely end... poorly.

Ravimir (human ranger CG) is admittedly no spellcaster (yet), but I like him well enough that I'll throw him in the ring regardless. Like others, he was made for another CC game, but wasn't chosen. I'm certainly open to making any changes you feel necessary (or just suitable).

Please let me know if you find his story interesting enough to consider him, and I will work on changing his crunch to suit this game. (Also appreciated: a preference as to whether he be created for ranged/melee combat.) I can provide links to the other games I'm currently in if you'd like to check my posting style.

Should a ranger not be to your liking for this game, is it allowed to post multiple characters?

Thanks for your consideration!

Regarding posting multiple characters: Honestly, I'd rather you only post one for consideration.

Now, I've decided recruitment will end around June 30th.

Ah, nuts. I was just writing up a spiritualist when you posted. XD

I put the finishing touches on Smaranda's background, added sections for motivations and for appearance/personality. Please let me know if you have any questions or feedback, GM.

Ditto here. Tweaked Barret a bit. His damage was a bit much.

Here is my submission, I am unsure if I will make him a fighter or ranger, but I am working on updating the crunch.

either way he will be a frontline fighter. Lemme know if you have any thoughts on his story

Alright, giving this my best shot. I tried circling around it since your last witch was already a Hedge Witch but in the end I wound up picking the archetype as well since it fit my idea so well. I also made her a people person, it looked like the party didn't have anyone with heavy investment in social skills.

I also noticed that the other players used background skills, so I put them in as well. Let me know if I got that wrong and it'll be fixed immediately. Enjoy!

I tried making some kind of overarching tragic backstory but it got derailed and I wound up having to scrap it because I want to play someone who isn't completely miserable all the time for once.

Dotting for now. I might try to come up with a medium of some sort.

Quite interested in playing in a Carrion Crown again. I just wanted to know at what pace you will be playing?

I'm generally looking for a pace of 1 post per day.

I've updated Lemor. He's now a human, his backstory has been revised, and he's been leveled up. I've not updated the equipment section yet, I'll probably do that tomorrow. Probably going to change some more stuff around and revise the backstory again before the deadline.

If anyone would like to read my backstory and offer suggestions, that'd be appreciated, and in return I can offer my own feedback on your backstory. I've done that sort of mutual review before and found it quite helpful.

I've also read through the gameplay so far, which I found enjoyable. I like your use of different aliases, GM, and enjoyed the theme music where it was quite a bit.

Thanks. :)

You're welcome. I know it seems small, but it definitely made a big difference reading things through, because the pictures are so important for identifying characters.

I've updated Lemor. He's now a human, his backstory has been revised, and he's been leveled up. I've not updated the equipment section yet, I'll probably do that tomorrow. Probably going to change some more stuff around and revise the backstory again before the deadline.

If anyone would like to read my backstory and offer suggestions, that'd be appreciated, and in return I can offer my own feedback on your backstory. I've done that sort of mutual review before and found it quite helpful.

I've also read through the gameplay so far, which I found enjoyable. I like your use of different aliases, GM, and enjoyed the theme music where it was quite a bit.

Your backstory is very detailed which is good. You may want to add in a bit more about the family though. Besides being rich, what were they like? Were they the stereotypical snotty aristocrats? Other than that, it's great.

Thanks for the complements. I mentioned that they were afraid Lemor wouldn't fulfill his potential and tried to push him to be the best he could be, but that's about it.

If you had to describe Lemor, how would you? I want to see what I got across.

Anything you want me to keep in mind if you'd like me to take a look at your own submission?

As a player, I would say that Lemor wants to be judged(and rewarded) on his own merit and accomplishments. Being born rich is almost like a stigma he feels he has to overcome.

Admittedly it hasn't been updated for quite a long time so it may seem a bit basic as far as backstories go. :)

Hey, same as lemor, I love criticism on my backstories.

Interesting Barret, I can definitely see that, which portions of the backstory convey that most to you? Are there other key aspects?

Additionally, do you feel that I'm made mistakes writing wise? Were transitions too abrupt? Does it feel like every action taken was reasonable and no one acted stupidly?

Reading over what you've got, I'd say that you should focus on writing more. What's life like as a barbarian? How does Barret get along with his family? Does he have friends? Has he killed anyone? I would just use one section to write about Barret's childhood through his connection to the professor and on, not break it up into multiple parts. Also, from a realism standpoint I don't think humans can fight bears without weapons and succeed, and it's very difficult for humans to fight wolves without weapons and succeed, and when we do often we come out of the exchange down on limbs. The game isn't meant to be too close to reality in this way, but I still have a tough time believing your character could fight a bear with no weapons and consistently win like your backstory suggests. Real humans have an easy time killing bears, but we do it by throwing spears, not by trying to wrestle them.

Daniel Valiros, I read over what you've got and it looks like a decent start. I would focus on the lower level of my writing if I were you, some of the sentences are a bit confusing to read and there seem to be a few grammatical mistakes which in places make it a bit tough to follow. My suggestion is that you read it out loud slowly or get someone else to read it out loud while you listen. I'll also say that the part about the townsfolk being ignorant seems to come a bit out of nowhere, and I don't really understand what the ignorance and paranoia of the townsfolk had to do with his mother's death.

Well when his family cut him off, he decided to work for it instead of just talking to his family which would have been far easier effort-wise. Most people who grew up rich would not have done that. Overall Lemor acted realistically.

The formatting was from a past recruitment that I never changed so I will rectify that. I do agree that I should expand on his home life. The wrestling bears thing was more to display his general attitude on life and his personality. I can change it to boars or something else more believable.

Though if Zangief can do it, why can't Barret? :)

Iiiii'm gonna have to disagree with you on that whole 'bear' point. You may have a point that a standard human can't fight a bear and win, but let's consider that he's not a regular human.

Dude's a second level Barbarian who rages his way into a bear form and has rage powers designed to help with his grapples. Him versus a brown bear is going to be a 40-60 spread in the bear's favor, yeah, but PCs who have bad dice rolls in their backstory don't usually live long enough to be PCs in the first place. This is not a realistic game, and that's why it's fun.

Well I can't fault his logic. Also I am honored by AM BARBARIAN's words.

SILLY BEAR, BARBARIAN AM ALWAYS WINNER.

Sure that the game isn't meant for realism, although if it was a human could easily kill a bear. However, I tend to be of the opinion that you should shoot to avoid things that are unlikely in preference of things that are more likely when it doesn't make a big difference, since the burden of suspension of disbelief shouldn't really be on the reader. Again, in my opinion. If as you suspect it's 40% to win, killing two bears is is .16 and three is .064, so it's not super likely that he's casually wrestling bears to death, although not impossible, especially if he has allies.

Anyway, bears aside, that's actually not what I had intended to convey, Barret, so obviously some revision is in order on my part, thanks for the help.

Well, assuming you killed the first bear successfully, the odds of killing the second bear actually becomes 40%. Then, if you kill that one too, the odds of killing the third bear is... well, 40%.

It's like if you roll a d20 and you hit a natural 1, the second time you roll that die your odds of rolling a 1 remains at 5%, even though normally the odds of getting two nat 1's in a row are 0.25%. Probabilities of past events are always either 100% or 0% since they either did or didn't happen, so the odds of it happening a second time don't actually change.

~*The More You Know*~

(p.s. There is an argument to be made here for if you don't know the results of the first test and how the superposition can alter the long term odds or whatever, but let's not get into that because schrodinger's bear is just a headache waiting to happen and quantum superposition theorums are weird because they posit that the die both is and is not a one at the same time, and thus you have a 5% chance of simultaneously rolling a second one and not having rolled two ones in the first place, so it doesn't actually change the odds of the current roll anyways.)

~*And Now I've Confused Myself*~

My arcanist, reporting for duty.
Campaign Trait: Teacher's Pet
Drawback: Vain

Hope I make the cut, and, if so, I'm looking forward to it!

Lorne Wokrev
Human Arcanist, I didn't want to do a huge background that would take all day to read so I just did a short one and just bullet pointed his motivations and personalities but can expand on these as you'd like.

Just because past outcomes don't affect future outcomes does not mean that the odds of killing three bears in a row is better than the odds of killing one bear cubed. It would, however, mean that had a character killed three bears in the past, they would still have a 40% chance of successfully killing a bear in the future.

Anyway, I've modified the section where Lemor loses financial support from his parents to make it clear that the was not cut off, and that it's actually a bit more complex than that. I don't think Lemor's behavior is reasonable, that is, I don't think it's what most people would do, but I do think it is realistic, since it's true to his character.

Anyone else want to look over what I've got? I'll do my best to reciprocate.

Whoa the cat of dragons with a carrion crown? Oh my. Interested, would need to update my idea for this AP mostly to level to 2 and all

Chellian

I will work on the updates now