The Infinite Watery Grave

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Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3
"Sunny" wrote:
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Sunny:
^^ agreed, call me weird but I am a big fan of the kitty hulk stuff he does. I do wonder however if he would do a commission of mine I've had since I saw his stuff. Also i am having trouble emailing you on Yahoo :( it'd be easier to talk on there. www.squeemasta91@yahoo.com

Island Elf 'Pugalist':1/"Almost Monk":1 |Perc:+7|HP:18/18|AC:14|T:15|FF:10|Fort:+1|Ref:+5|Will:+4|Init:+4

Khaod:
Okay, I tried the new address and initially I thought it was okay. I get home only to find an error message on Yahoo again saying there is no account for Squeemaster on there. Have you tried adding 'WWW' to the front of DassKapital and seeing if that gets through the other way? Hoping to hear from you. :)


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3
"Sunny" wrote:
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Sunny:
:) www.squeemasta91@yahoo.com I've tried the www but It never has worked :/

Island Elf 'Pugalist':1/"Almost Monk":1 |Perc:+7|HP:18/18|AC:14|T:15|FF:10|Fort:+1|Ref:+5|Will:+4|Init:+4

Khaod:
Okay, tried a different variation and got a "Yes, we sent your e-mail" message. Also put a question up on their help desk thingy. So, crossing fingers and toes in the hope that things work out right. :) Also in passing there is a chat room I drop into when I have time. Would you be interested in a link through to that? Much cheers to you and yours.


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3
"Sunny" wrote:
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Sunny:
Yeah it's been working now ^^ you gotta tell me how you got that to work :)

Island Elf 'Pugalist':1/"Almost Monk":1 |Perc:+7|HP:18/18|AC:14|T:15|FF:10|Fort:+1|Ref:+5|Will:+4|Init:+4

Khaod:
Um...as soon as I figure out which buttons I pushed, you'll be the second to know. >_>


Noticed some confusion. Everything ok guys? I love to answer questions. Feel free to ask me anything, flavor, mechanics, or otherwise.


Paladin of Shelyn 3

Sorry about clogging the game thread. No confusion here.


Lilandra Ghoulbane wrote:
Sorry about clogging the game thread. No confusion here.

No big deal. Just wanted to offer. I'm clearly the ragey dm type ;)

....clearly.

Hows it goin?


Lilandra Ghoulbane wrote:
Sorry about clogging the game thread. No confusion here.

Also,

Yea there's no confusion that Paladins are huge and awesome. I did not notice how big your saves were at level two. That's fantastic.


Paladin of Shelyn 3

The more I read up on Shelyn the more i'm wishing I'd picked glaive for weapon focus, and chosen as my main weapon. Makes for a more beautiful fighting style as well.


I love your throwing hammers though.


Yeah I always liked paladins and I always liked the idea from DND of the raven queen paladin so I always pictured there was alot of paladins of Pharasma but apparently there is only a few select gods that have a paladin following so I was surprised when lilandra was a paladin of Sheyln lol


Ok one last question, need to know what is going to be the ruling for mounts sorry i keep coming back to that but need to know so I can move and such.

Ive asked alot of others and they all say that the mounts movement is taken as your move action, therefore you can only take a full round action when the horse is not moving or just a five foot step.

Also alot of the feats I plan on taking kinda hinge on the ruling sorry again :(


Paladin of Shelyn 3

There's definitely something awesome about throwing a hammer at somebody's face. ;)

Way I look at it martial skill can be a thing of great beauty, and beauty and love both need protecting.


Magnus Wolfgang II wrote:

Ok one last question, need to know what is going to be the ruling for mounts sorry i keep coming back to that but need to know so I can move and such.

Ive asked alot of others and they all say that the mounts movement is taken as your move action, therefore you can only take a full round action when the horse is not moving or just a five foot step.

Also alot of the feats I plan on taking kinda hinge on the ruling sorry again :(

You have this correct. As the core says, you have to "wait" to move up to the horses double move for your move action so you only get one attack.


right but how can you have the horse double move for your single move action?

all im saying is if you want to move you use the mounts movement of 50' if you want to double move you sacrifice your standard just like any other time only now you can move 100'

if you get to moves the mount double move and attack its essentially giving us three actions

just clarifying sorry :(


Magnus Wolfgang II wrote:

right but how can you have the horse double move for your single move action?

all im saying is if you want to move you use the mounts movement of 50' if you want to double move you sacrifice your standard just like any other time only now you can move 100'

if you get to moves the mount double move and attack its essentially giving us three actions

just clarifying sorry :(

Per the core:

"Your mount acts on your initiative count as you direct it.
You move at its speed, but the mount uses its action to move.
A horse (not a pony) is a Large creature and thus takes up
a space 10 feet (2 squares) across. For simplicity, assume that
you share your mount’s space during combat."

If you have an animal companion, it gets a move and a standard and you get a move and a standard. So yes, you can direct the mount to move twice or even move once and attack once.

"If your mount moves more than five feet you can only make a single melee attack."

So there's that exception. There are others as well. Creatures will try to kill your horse. Your horse may not fit in a dungeon, and certainly not in an inn if you were to fight in a close quarters location like that.

Does this help? :)


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

But wait a minute, none of us have actual animal companions to the extent of my knowledge, and the core book says IF we have an animal companion then both get a move and a standard. With these horses acting as our mounts, none of them are our animal companions.

Sorry to sound argumentative, not trying to be, just wanting a rules clarification cuz this all confuses me. :)


Khaod Argus wrote:

But wait a minute, none of us have actual animal companions to the extent of my knowledge, and the core book says IF we have an animal companion then both get a move and a standard. With these horses acting as our mounts, none of them are our animal companions.

Sorry to sound argumentative, not trying to be, just wanting a rules clarification cuz this all confuses me. :)

Yea I was just using companions as a comparison. You don't share quite the same bond with these horses, but getting an extra move action while riding them is not unheard of.


so to do the double move wouldn't you sac your standard to direct the mount or giving it your full attention to move that far?

asking cause thats what i plan on doing lol

double move 100' and that's my turn lol


Magnus Wolfgang II wrote:

so to do the double move wouldn't you sac your standard to direct the mount or giving it your full attention to move that far?

asking cause thats what i plan on doing lol

double move 100' and that's my turn lol

Yea you can do that. Its a move action and then you just won't get to do anything with your standard since you didnt make it there yet. Heck, you could full round run and go 200 feet in one direction.

Is anyone else concerned that this is a Lich?


I couldnt do 200 cause as my move action and the horses I direct it 50' then as my standard I force it to run another 50' therfore whole turn is used.

Even if we used the system you described with animal companion could only go 100', 50 is regular mounts movement, and 50 more for its second move sacrificing my own movement speed to direct it another 50 again im just not seeing any ruling that says you can double move your mount and not suffer for it makes no sense

Lol i am its fricken cr 12 creature lol sure hope you made it slightly modded ran into one before in a game nearly wiped whole party and we were level 10 so either we are supposed to run from this guy or you made a smaller lich lol


Also as side note Lich's don't have the spell fear available to cast thats why im hoping you made custom one lol and not the one out of the bestiary lol :D

I mean it has fear ara 60 feet dc 18 lol but man thats harsh enough lol

hahaha fighter draws close to cut down the evil lich and fail will save RUN!


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

Craaaaaap so it's probably goodbye Khaod :/


Yea you guys are really brave. :P

And as for the spell, it was an extended version of cause fear, cast out of his staff. So yes, its special.

Also, this is not a base Lich. Its a caster that acquired the Lich template.

Also, yes, its a Lich :P


Khaod Argus wrote:
Craaaaaap so it's probably goodbye Khaod :/

I don't think Khaod knows any better ;)


Paladin of Shelyn 3
Magnus Wolfgang II wrote:

Also as side note Lich's don't have the spell fear available to cast thats why im hoping you made custom one lol and not the one out of the bestiary lol :D

I mean it has fear ara 60 feet dc 18 lol but man thats harsh enough lol

hahaha fighter draws close to cut down the evil lich and fail will save RUN!

Ok that's more matagamey than necessary, who's to say the Lich wasn't a cleric first, or it isn't a power of the staff?

And yes I saw Lich and thought, oh great, TPK, it's been fun.

But hey, bring it on!


SHould we ask our questions here to give some semblance of knowledge coming from training or some such in our head before shouting it out?

My two are

Special attacks

And does it have DR?


Yeah lilandra i wasnt metagaming notice how my character is charging in? yeah please dont judge i was saying for sake of saying oh s*$+ also if you read the post i did say I am hoping for a custom lich not the one straight out of the bestiary as I also run games and make custom beastys thank you

Also the dm just clarified it did come from a staff which I have no way of knowing and he realy didnt have to give me lol but again this is OOC discussion if i start displaying all knowing traits in character let me know


Paladin of Shelyn 3

Mine would be specific weaknesses and means of destruction.


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

Khaod knows the answer to the second question! *jumps up and down excitedly!*

SMASH SMASH SMASH SMASH!!!^^


Paladin of Shelyn 3
Magnus Wolfgang II wrote:

Yeah lilandra i wasnt metagaming notice how my character is charging in? yeah please dont judge i was saying for sake of saying oh s*+* also if you read the post i did say I am hoping for a custom lich not the one straight out of the bestiary as I also run games and make custom beastys thank you

Also the dm just clarified it did come from a staff which I have no way of knowing and he realy didnt have to give me lol but again this is OOC discussion if i start displaying all knowing traits in character let me know

You're right, it was out of character and obviously your character isn't reacting based on OOC knowledge so sorry if that came off wrong.


Paladin of Shelyn 3
Khaod Argus wrote:

Khaod knows the answer to the second question! *jumps up and down excitedly!*

SMASH SMASH SMASH SMASH!!!^^

I love that we have an armored version of the Hulk in our party!


yeah i am sorry as well I didnt mean to come off so snarky, battling with the flu and headcold and the headaches from sinus' so its a lovely combo equaling a nasty mood so again sorry :(


I appreciate your lack of metagaming

Here are some answers: I was supposed to give you the opportunity to make these checks at the beginning of the fight so I will allow you to redo your last turn based on this knowledge.

DR 15 bludgeoning

....

DR. 15. Bludgeoning.

......

Special Attck: Grave Touch 9/day, Paralizing Touch, Power over undead

Weaknesses: None

Means of Destruction: Destroy its Phylactery

Yep.


Lilandra Ghoulbane wrote:
Khaod Argus wrote:

Khaod knows the answer to the second question! *jumps up and down excitedly!*

SMASH SMASH SMASH SMASH!!!^^

I love that we have an armored version of the Hulk in our party!

Yea I like him too.


Translation==== SCARY AS HELL!


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

^^ Is why I made him! Ever seen or read Planet Hulk? I am the more personable version of perma Hulk ^^ big green, kinda ugly and loves smashing!

Dr 15 Bludgeoning? So...Khaod smash?


Male Gnome Cleric 2

Anyone else wondering if the best possible course of action against a lich at 2nd level would be to high-tail it out of there?


Me as a player yes its like DUH RUN AWAY!

character on other hand.....humiliated by running away and its undead.....yeah ONCE MORE INTO THE BREACH DEAR FRIENDS ONCE MORE!!! (ZAP!) said the paladin before he was then a smoking ruin upon ground


Dimitrialtjunbuderkin Yanalvidy wrote:
Anyone else wondering if the best possible course of action against a lich at 2nd level would be to high-tail it out of there?

On that note...You can have two questions.


Male Gnome Cleric 2

1. What is your name?
2. What is your quest?
3.
Damn! Can I have 3 questions?

On a more serious note...
My questions would have been related to defensive abilities and special attacks, both of which have been answered.


ok as a random chance occurrence I ran into the actual rulings by just looking at the feat mounted archery!!!!

You can if your mount is an animal companion get one standard attack if it doubles moves

So consider matter dropped :) sorry to have bugged you all


Magnus Wolfgang II wrote:

ok as a random chance occurrence I ran into the actual rulings by just looking at the feat mounted archery!!!!

You can if your mount is an animal companion get one standard attack if it doubles moves

So consider matter dropped :) sorry to have bugged you all

Magnus:

You didn't bug me. This is a notoriously vague section of Pathfinder. No biggy :)


Paladin of Shelyn 3

Uhm, so if smite evil is against a specific target, and our target just got nuked, we just used our big guns with no reload.

Crap!


Lilandra Ghoulbane wrote:

Uhm, so if smite evil is against a specific target, and our target just got nuked, we just used our big guns with no reload.

Crap!

Lol. If I didn't do what I did, this was a 100% TPK situation.

Good DMs send escorts from 1-5 ;)


Lilandra:

How did you calculate your damage for your most recent attack? Just curious :) . I thought you only do a d8 + 2, +1 damage against undead, for a total of d8 +3. What did I miss?


Goodies incoming :)

Kills these guys already! Jeesh :P

Hows' everyone doing? Sorry for the delay in posts. Hopefully today makes up for it.


Hey Magnus:

Don't forget your "I'm on a high horse" bonus of plus one against the little people... ;)

That was NOT a metaphor at all >.>

Hehe. Just kidding. You can play as anoble a knight as you like. :) ...I love how diverse our characters are.

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