
Khaod Argus |

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Magnus Wolfgang II |

Ok one last question, need to know what is going to be the ruling for mounts sorry i keep coming back to that but need to know so I can move and such.
Ive asked alot of others and they all say that the mounts movement is taken as your move action, therefore you can only take a full round action when the horse is not moving or just a five foot step.
Also alot of the feats I plan on taking kinda hinge on the ruling sorry again :(

DM- The Infinite Watery Grave |

Ok one last question, need to know what is going to be the ruling for mounts sorry i keep coming back to that but need to know so I can move and such.
Ive asked alot of others and they all say that the mounts movement is taken as your move action, therefore you can only take a full round action when the horse is not moving or just a five foot step.
Also alot of the feats I plan on taking kinda hinge on the ruling sorry again :(
You have this correct. As the core says, you have to "wait" to move up to the horses double move for your move action so you only get one attack.

Magnus Wolfgang II |

right but how can you have the horse double move for your single move action?
all im saying is if you want to move you use the mounts movement of 50' if you want to double move you sacrifice your standard just like any other time only now you can move 100'
if you get to moves the mount double move and attack its essentially giving us three actions
just clarifying sorry :(

DM- The Infinite Watery Grave |

right but how can you have the horse double move for your single move action?
all im saying is if you want to move you use the mounts movement of 50' if you want to double move you sacrifice your standard just like any other time only now you can move 100'
if you get to moves the mount double move and attack its essentially giving us three actions
just clarifying sorry :(
Per the core:
"Your mount acts on your initiative count as you direct it.
You move at its speed, but the mount uses its action to move.
A horse (not a pony) is a Large creature and thus takes up
a space 10 feet (2 squares) across. For simplicity, assume that
you share your mount’s space during combat."
If you have an animal companion, it gets a move and a standard and you get a move and a standard. So yes, you can direct the mount to move twice or even move once and attack once.
"If your mount moves more than five feet you can only make a single melee attack."
So there's that exception. There are others as well. Creatures will try to kill your horse. Your horse may not fit in a dungeon, and certainly not in an inn if you were to fight in a close quarters location like that.
Does this help? :)

Khaod Argus |

But wait a minute, none of us have actual animal companions to the extent of my knowledge, and the core book says IF we have an animal companion then both get a move and a standard. With these horses acting as our mounts, none of them are our animal companions.
Sorry to sound argumentative, not trying to be, just wanting a rules clarification cuz this all confuses me. :)

DM- The Infinite Watery Grave |

But wait a minute, none of us have actual animal companions to the extent of my knowledge, and the core book says IF we have an animal companion then both get a move and a standard. With these horses acting as our mounts, none of them are our animal companions.
Sorry to sound argumentative, not trying to be, just wanting a rules clarification cuz this all confuses me. :)
Yea I was just using companions as a comparison. You don't share quite the same bond with these horses, but getting an extra move action while riding them is not unheard of.

DM- The Infinite Watery Grave |

so to do the double move wouldn't you sac your standard to direct the mount or giving it your full attention to move that far?
asking cause thats what i plan on doing lol
double move 100' and that's my turn lol
Yea you can do that. Its a move action and then you just won't get to do anything with your standard since you didnt make it there yet. Heck, you could full round run and go 200 feet in one direction.
Is anyone else concerned that this is a Lich?

Magnus Wolfgang II |

I couldnt do 200 cause as my move action and the horses I direct it 50' then as my standard I force it to run another 50' therfore whole turn is used.
Even if we used the system you described with animal companion could only go 100', 50 is regular mounts movement, and 50 more for its second move sacrificing my own movement speed to direct it another 50 again im just not seeing any ruling that says you can double move your mount and not suffer for it makes no sense
Lol i am its fricken cr 12 creature lol sure hope you made it slightly modded ran into one before in a game nearly wiped whole party and we were level 10 so either we are supposed to run from this guy or you made a smaller lich lol

Magnus Wolfgang II |

Also as side note Lich's don't have the spell fear available to cast thats why im hoping you made custom one lol and not the one out of the bestiary lol :D
I mean it has fear ara 60 feet dc 18 lol but man thats harsh enough lol
hahaha fighter draws close to cut down the evil lich and fail will save RUN!

Lilandra Ghoulbane |

Also as side note Lich's don't have the spell fear available to cast thats why im hoping you made custom one lol and not the one out of the bestiary lol :D
I mean it has fear ara 60 feet dc 18 lol but man thats harsh enough lol
hahaha fighter draws close to cut down the evil lich and fail will save RUN!
Ok that's more matagamey than necessary, who's to say the Lich wasn't a cleric first, or it isn't a power of the staff?
And yes I saw Lich and thought, oh great, TPK, it's been fun.
But hey, bring it on!

Magnus Wolfgang II |

Yeah lilandra i wasnt metagaming notice how my character is charging in? yeah please dont judge i was saying for sake of saying oh s*$+ also if you read the post i did say I am hoping for a custom lich not the one straight out of the bestiary as I also run games and make custom beastys thank you
Also the dm just clarified it did come from a staff which I have no way of knowing and he realy didnt have to give me lol but again this is OOC discussion if i start displaying all knowing traits in character let me know

Lilandra Ghoulbane |

Yeah lilandra i wasnt metagaming notice how my character is charging in? yeah please dont judge i was saying for sake of saying oh s*+* also if you read the post i did say I am hoping for a custom lich not the one straight out of the bestiary as I also run games and make custom beastys thank you
Also the dm just clarified it did come from a staff which I have no way of knowing and he realy didnt have to give me lol but again this is OOC discussion if i start displaying all knowing traits in character let me know
You're right, it was out of character and obviously your character isn't reacting based on OOC knowledge so sorry if that came off wrong.

DM- The Infinite Watery Grave |

I appreciate your lack of metagaming
Here are some answers: I was supposed to give you the opportunity to make these checks at the beginning of the fight so I will allow you to redo your last turn based on this knowledge.
DR 15 bludgeoning
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DR. 15. Bludgeoning.
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Special Attck: Grave Touch 9/day, Paralizing Touch, Power over undead
Weaknesses: None
Means of Destruction: Destroy its Phylactery
Yep.

DM- The Infinite Watery Grave |

ok as a random chance occurrence I ran into the actual rulings by just looking at the feat mounted archery!!!!
You can if your mount is an animal companion get one standard attack if it doubles moves
So consider matter dropped :) sorry to have bugged you all
Magnus:
You didn't bug me. This is a notoriously vague section of Pathfinder. No biggy :)