The Infinite Watery Grave

Game Master MuadQuim


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Sunny:

Congrats! Also, take note, rangers get endurance as a bonus feat at level 3. If you go that far, you will receive "diehard" as the feat, instead. Its better than punishing you for not knowing what class you wanted :)


Island Elf 'Pugalist':1/"Almost Monk":1 |Perc:+7|HP:18/18|AC:14|T:15|FF:10|Fort:+1|Ref:+5|Will:+4|Init:+4

*^_^*

Heh, it weren't that I din't know whut I were gon'a be doin'. More'n like a case of I fergots whut t'was I were gon'a be doin', like?

An' I be hopin' we goes waaay beyond more'n third etc level. (^_^)

Much cheers t'ye an' yours!


Would this be a good time to ask about the vengeance points thing gm?


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

Glad to see Magnus is back ironically just as he was ^^ also did we ever decide on the distribution of the loot?


Sorry for the hiatus guys! I'm back! Been studying for finals but I haven't forgotten about you guys. A few points of order:

First, a word on Vengeance points. Magnus's god, among other things, is the god of righteous vengeance. You may spend these points to get a +4 on any d20 roll as an immediate action before the results of the die are revealed. Once spent, they are are lost permanently.

The downside is that, while you retain these points, you MUST avenge the fallen. Upon seeing the agents of chaos and undeath (chaotic evil and undead creatures), you MUST spend your first round charging an opponent. If you do not, you acquire a cumulative -1 penalty to saves, skills, and attack rolls, for each round you have not executed your charge. This penalty is removed when you charge and also if you no longer have any vengeance points.

You acquire a vengeance point when you witness the death of an innocent person.

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Second, Khaod, we have not divvied gear up yet. Feel free to discuss :)

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Third, I can't seem to edit this map online accurately so I'll have to describe the route to you.

http://cdn.obsidianportal.com/map_images/199013/GolarionMap.jpg

You began in the nation of Rahadoum, and set out from the city of Azir, along the Jodin river, traveling east until you hit the crook in the river right where the "n" is in "Jodin". Now you are headed north to a fort (not pictured) on the nearest point of the coast to you.

Any other questions? I'll update the game now :)


Sunny,

Get that ranger stuff leveled! :P

Or at least roll for HP if you haven't already. I'd hate to lose another PC next encounter!


Also, just did the math on loot. I gave you too much for level 2-3 Woopsie! I could care less. You guys deserve it.

Have fun rolling in piles of gold when you get to the fort! Rich characters are fun :)


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

So...what loot system are we using? Are we allowed to request taking a certain item and then abstaining from taking anything else the next time around unless we REALLY need it or...? I am dreadfully afraid of the Communist Loot system, which has ruined one of my past games on here, so I wanted to make sure. I know I really am not the one who needs it most but I wanted to put in a request for the Amulet of Natural Armor if that was ok with everyone else. Obviously I will bow to someone else whose need is greater, my only argument is that my natural armor and my actual armor type is the only type of defence I'll have, I realize still nice, but :P just thought I'd put in the request for it. I personally hate players who go into a loot pile and before anyone can say anything they grab something and say "This is mine, because I want it. I don't care if you need it more, I just want it and I won't give you my old one" baaaad experiances with old gaming groups :( anyways :) thoughts?


Khaod:

I'm a fan of the group coming to an agreement on distributing gear rather than just blindly selling or apportioning it. Finding out what items to sell and who should use them is part of the fun of Pathfinder.

That said, I'll let you and the rest of the group in on some metagame. I want everyone to have fun so I monitor these sorts of exchanges closely to tease out peoples desires. Pathfinder is not supposed to be competitive. So, for example, you'll notice I gave Magnus something interesting to mess with since he died. Its both an advantage and a disadvantage. I think it fits his character well.

Sunny LOVES to rp. Unless I've got that totally wrong ;). So I try to give her opportunities to do weird and exciting things to connect to the world every chance she gets. (Its not hard; she's quicky enough to make rp'ing a pleasure regardless.)

Lilandra is a classic Pathfinder player if I could pick one. Clear character idea, desire to break my monsters in half, concerned about playing by the rules. Still metagames enough that I get to adjust CR for her ;) . Undead slayer in an undead campaign? Broken? Nope. I just adjust the CR and send her on her way.

In short, I like all of you guys. And I try to make this fun. So if you disagree, its nothing I can't fix with a little storytelling or another encounter!

And Khoad, oh Khaod. I'm you on the weekends man. I build the biggest con-driven, armorbarianm Oh-god-why-didn't-I-take-feats-to-make-monsters-hurt-me-more-than-Magnus, power bruisers. You're out to smash things and have a good time. And boy do I have some items to get in your hands level 5-10. Good times. High five. No stop, that broke my wrist. Ow.


Also,

I'm going to say Dim was so traumatized by the events of the last few days that he climbs on the first boat to pass the camp and leaves without a word. Fighting an invasion of undead was not his idea of the adventuring life.

On that note, should I add a PC or two?


DM- The Infinite Watery Grave wrote:

Sunny,

Get that ranger stuff leveled! :P

Or at least roll for HP if you haven't already. I'd hate to lose another PC next encounter!

Edit: You did roll. My bad. :)


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

Hahaha how bout an air five from a safe distance :P rofl I've always liked having a lot of armor and barbarians are cool to me, so a mixture of the two is awesomely epic ^^

On the note of recruiting a few extra players, I am in a new game under Game Master Borum that when he might add a new player to the group, the entire current cast puts a vote on if the new person should be allowed in :) By doing so we even avoided a certain player who would not agree to make a character by Borum's rulings so we all got to vote no and then voted yes on a nother much better character ^^ I personally like this system but I'll go by your rulings. I say this as a point of both rp and metagame but without Dim we'll probably be in a load of trouble, it'd be nice to try and find another person who might be willing to heal a bit. I know the pains of people wanting your character along just to be the classic backrow White-Mage "Healmore" person, to me it's boring, but I can't speak for others :) Anyways if everyone agrees I wouldn't be adverse to recruiting a few extra faces ^^

EDIT: Also you are making this incredibly fun ^^ so props!


Paladin of Shelyn 3

Here's the conunudrum, Lilandra can't really use any of the other stuff and without an arcane or full divine spell caster (yay hardcore killin' types) the scrolls and staff should be sold.

Except for one thing, did anyone identify the scroll as a scroll of animate dead. If not, it'll sell just fine but if someone did, there's no way Lilandra would allow the opportunity for that to get into some bastard necromancer's hands.

She'd destroy it first.

On the topic of another character we definitely do need healing, and maybe some spellcasting power.

Fortunately in Pathfinder there's a ton of options, Cleric, Witch, Druid, Bard as well as certain Archetypes of other classes all make good healers.

I do like the vote or veto power so we can keep tthe fun dynamic this party has.


Ok its settled then. I'll put characters to a vote. I'll start a recruitment thread. Shooting for two more characters, preferably casters. You'll meet them at the Salt Fortress.


Worst case. I can keep Gorchag with you a while longer and he can pass out potions or I can send him into a churugeon archetype.


So are we good to move on?


Id vote for just one if it was up to me lol but yeah I think we ready


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

Fine by me to continue :) Also Lilandra, I definetly see your point but it's the same case with Khaod but to a greater degree, as Barbarians get no magical abilities whatsoever :P The only reason I'd say I could really use it is because of the combination of not using a shield as well as Raging minus to AC, so another +2 to keep my adorable half-orc face pretty as a rock would reallllly help :P

For character submissions, maybe I can ask our GM Borum if he'd like to join, you can take a look at his style of roleplaying here Borum's Game :) just a suggestion.


Khaod Argus wrote:

Fine by me to continue :) Also Lilandra, I definetly see your point but it's the same case with Khaod but to a greater degree, as Barbarians get no magical abilities whatsoever :P The only reason I'd say I could really use it is because of the combination of not using a shield as well as Raging minus to AC, so another +2 to keep my adorable half-orc face pretty as a rock would reallllly help :P

For character submissions, maybe I can ask our GM Borum if he'd like to join, you can take a look at his style of roleplaying here Borum's Game :) just a suggestion.

Have him post a character and I'll take a look! :)


Lilandra Ghoulbane wrote:

Here's the conunudrum, Lilandra can't really use any of the other stuff and without an arcane or full divine spell caster (yay hardcore killin' types) the scrolls and staff should be sold.

Except for one thing, did anyone identify the scroll as a scroll of animate dead. If not, it'll sell just fine but if someone did, there's no way Lilandra would allow the opportunity for that to get into some bastard necromancer's hands.

She'd destroy it first.

On the topic of another character we definitely do need healing, and maybe some spellcasting power.

Fortunately in Pathfinder there's a ton of options, Cleric, Witch, Druid, Bard as well as certain Archetypes of other classes all make good healers.

I do like the vote or veto power so we can keep tthe fun dynamic this party has.

Lilandra,

Glad you are having fun!

Also, with regards to the scrolls, you can be more creative. If you voice these concerns to the party, you may find out some non evil uses for disposing of the scrolls without burning them.


Also,

Lilandra, your time is coming. I have lots of ideas for you. :) Sorry that loot didn't work your way ....yet.


Paladin of Shelyn 3

Oh I don't doubt it for a second. And Khaod, I think you should have the amulet.


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

Thanks Lilandra, I'll abstain from grabbing up anything else for a while barring a magical earthbreaker :P lolz. So I'll add the amulet to Khaod's profile unless anyone else would want to have it.


If Azure Zero is saying psinoncs are broken well......I aint too willing to see what they are heck I dont even know where you even look at them, why cant people make "regular" characters lol


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

If it is ok, I'd like to talk about the applicants in spoilers just between us and you DM if that's ok?

Discussion Board Only:
So here are my thoughts. I would really rather not have a Lizardfolk in the party, nor any form or shape of A Samurai/Gunslinger. The Bard/Oracle guy looks pretty good but those are just my thoughts for taking on the new people.


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

Discussion Board Only:
I HATE gunslingers...man...There's my vote on him already if we're taking more than just one other person. What do the rest of you guys think on Borum's to be announced guy? potential?


I have never, ever, rolled three 20s in a row before. Ever.

Good lord.

In other news, Khaod, I've been noting your input. Just wanted you to know I saw it.


Paladin of Shelyn 3

Discussion board only

Spoiler:
Atrigger happy psycho in a group with 2 Pally's is just asking for trouble. Borum's sounds interesting though.

In other news, Magnus isn't alllowed to charge anymore, the dice hate him!


Island Elf 'Pugalist':1/"Almost Monk":1 |Perc:+7|HP:18/18|AC:14|T:15|FF:10|Fort:+1|Ref:+5|Will:+4|Init:+4

Discussion board only:
I would rather abstain from speaking for or against any applicant, knowing the trials and tribulations of joining a group to begin with. *Bows* That said, I have no problems with any class or race choice, the true trial comes in the role playing of the character. *Bows*

Whew! An' that be th' longest straight talkin' I ever did done! (^_~)


Haha. thanks for the input guys. So should I just gather up the existing characters and put them to a vote?


Island Elf 'Pugalist':1/"Almost Monk":1 |Perc:+7|HP:18/18|AC:14|T:15|FF:10|Fort:+1|Ref:+5|Will:+4|Init:+4

Soooo...how many folks actually have thrown their hat in't the ring?

I'm thinkin' t'would be nice t'maybe have a couple join, if'n every one else be of a same mind.

O'course, this still don't ease the burden on poor DM- The Infinite Watery Grave of makin' that choice.... >_>


Paladin of Shelyn 3

I agree with the fact that heavy hitters isn't really our deficit, as can be plainly seen in the current combat. Healing and/or magical firepower would be useful, as would utility magic.


I honestly think we'll be ok either way. I mean, wands are cheap, and I'm not necessarily the GM that makes the campaign REQUIRE a healer or arcan caster. So don't feel toooo pressured. There are lots of options for getting hp back.


What I meant by what I said was that ive been in games where everyone plays heavy hitters me and my brother play in a game where the gm is playing a ranger with two handed weapons and wants to be the heavy hitter but he competes with a wolf shaman transforming to a huge wolf and his large animal companion, and a Cavalier just makes boring gaming

Anyways I think more utility as seen with a ranger and an oracle would be nice but I havent really looked at the submissions only seen the multiple characters trying to make big hitters


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

Discussion Board Only:
Sigh...I hate being the bad guy in these situations but I don't like the Tiefling much either. His character is broken out the @$$ min-maxing overkill. I already don't like Tiefings and also his character is...i have to say it again...broken. So I vote no on him. I do like the Wizard the other guy is going for though, much better in comparison and Borum's ranger seems ok too, he's just missing a few things.


Island Elf 'Pugalist':1/"Almost Monk":1 |Perc:+7|HP:18/18|AC:14|T:15|FF:10|Fort:+1|Ref:+5|Will:+4|Init:+4

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I bow to your wisdom/knowledge Master Khoad. *Bows* Again wishing Master DM all the best with their decision making.


Ok well guys here we are. Not as casty a list as I would have liked. But lets get some votes. You can vote once. You can also abstain from voting, essentially telling me "Nah...I like things just the way they are."

Here is the list

Tiefling Magus

Half Elf Ranger:
Isaac Eliason: Half-elf Ranger, specializing in either the bow or two-weapon fighting. Going off of the 24 Point Buy at 2nd Level.

STR 14
DEX 16 (+2 Half-elf)
CON 13
INT 12
WIS 15
CHA 12

Male CG Half-Elf Ranger 2ND LEVEL)

Fort +4, Ref +6, Will +2

Base Atk +2, CMB +4, CMD 15

HP 20 (1d10+1+1) (6+1+1)

Init +5, Spd 30 ft, Perception +6

Height 5' 6", Weight 160 lbs, Age 22

DEFENSE

AC 17, touch 13, flat-footed 14
MWK Studded Leather (AC +3, MDB +5, ACP 0)
MWK Buckler (AC +1 Shield, MDB -, ACP 0)

OFFENSE

Melee
MWK Longsword: +3 Attack, 1d8+2
MWK Buckler: +3 Attack, 1d3+1
Longbow: +5 Attack, 1d8

ABILITIES

Feats
Two-Weapon Fighting, Improved Shield Bash

Skills (14)
Bluff 5, Climb 7, Disable Device 5, Diplomacy 5, Intimidate 5, Knowledge (Nature) 7, Profession(Hunter) 5, Perception 6, Sense Motive 6, Stealth 9, Survival 5

Languages Common, Elven and Goblin

Class Favored Enemy: Humanoid (Orc), Track +1, Wild Empathy

Traits
High-lander (+1 Stealth, always a Class Skill, +2 in Rocky or Hills land)
Warrior of Old(+2 Initiative)

GEAR
MWK Studded Leather (175) 20 lbs
MWK Buckler (165) 5 lbs
MWK Longsword (315) 4 lbs
40 Arrows (2) 6 lbs
Longbow (75) 3 lbs
MWK Backpack 5 lbs

Wealth
218 GG

Weight 42 lbs

APPEARANCE
A leanly muscled man with a haggard but no doubt attractive face, Isaac is a well-traveled mercenary of sorts, earning some small renown as a swordfighter and hunter of local orc maruaders. He is 5'6" tall with a decent build and a long braid of brown hair and one green eye and one brown. His ears are pointed like his mother's, but he maintains an overall human build.

Psion shaper

Bard Oracle

gunslinger:
Str 10
Dex 18 (Including Human +2)
Con 11
Int 15
Wis 15
Cha 10

I went with standard gunslinger with alignment LG, pistol starter with a short sword for backup. Trained in Acrobatics, Bluff, Craft(Alchemy), Heal, Perception, Sense Motive, Sleight of Hand and Survival. (Extra skill from favored class.)

There's the bare bones of it.

EDIT: Feats, forgot the feats. Went with Point Blank Shot and Extra Grit.

Scroll master wizard:
He's a wizard(Scroll Master) with the Universalist school. His scores will be like this...

STR 10
DEX 15
CON 11
INT 18 (Including Human +2)
WIS 15
CHA 10

Trained skills are as follows: Appraise, Knowledge(Arcana), Knowledge(Religion), Knowledge(The Planes), Linguistics, Sense Motive and Spellcraft.

His feats shall be Weapon Focus(Short Sword) and Spell Focus(Evocation).

His background is uncertain at the moment, but I'm thinking a scholarly type who got sick of reading about adventuring and decided to do it himself. Very self-assured and often feels the need for in-depth explanations of lore or arcane theory even if nobody's interested.

Lizardfolk cleric?


Sunny I think gm wants us to vote here lol

Ill put three votes in just so you have 3 different options

Descending Order

1.Half Elf Ranger

2.Bard Oracle

3. Scroll Master Wizard

Party members only:

My reasons I hate tieflings lol bad expierences they just seem broken as hell,

I know the ranger and hes a very good roleplayer and pretty amazing person

No idea what psions are and considering everyones else reactions just vote no

Bard/oracle just seems interesting

HATE GUNSLINGERS shouldnt have been made

Scroll master would be a pretty neat chracter

NO NO NO NO NO


Island Elf 'Pugalist':1/"Almost Monk":1 |Perc:+7|HP:18/18|AC:14|T:15|FF:10|Fort:+1|Ref:+5|Will:+4|Init:+4

"Blergle, blargle, mumble, grumble..." >_<

DM Only:
Okay...I hate even thinking about making a statement that would have an influence over something like this, since I've been rejected from my share of applications into games.

The Teifling Magus, Bard Oracel and Psion Shaper get the higher votes simply for having finished character pages and hence making your job as Dm easier. In next descending order run the Gunslinger, Scroll Master Wizard and then Half-Elf ranger.

Now, the explanation of why I've listed them in the orders I have. First in the order is the one I'd be most interested to see how the class played. So the Magus as a class I think needs to be seen more, the same with the Gunslinger.

For purely illogical and personal gripe reasons that make absolutely no sense (I freely admit to now) I hate Psionics....it's irrational and I can't really give a reason, *Hangs head* Hence why the Psion shaper gets pushed to the bottom of the choice list.

The Bard oracle is interesting, simply again to see how the new Oracle class brings different things to the mix. Hence the same for the Scroll master. This, unfortunately by the process of elimination puts the Psion and the ranger at the bottom of both choice lists. :(

I understand I haven't given a 'Vote' as such, but I hope my words have given my reasons, meaning and emotions behind them. Again, as a player, I thank yourself for the time and effort you are giving to we players and I again envy you not the decision you have to make in regards who wins and who loses. *Bows*

"Yah...so everything I were sayin' over there I pretty much be sayin' over here." >_>


Input noted. I'll wait to hear from the other two players. Don't worry. This is a friendly board and you are all being good about this. It'll be over soon.


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

Like I said in the Recruitment Thread, sorry meant to post that here but doesn't hurt where it is,

My Vote is on, in order of preference:
1. Half-Elf Ranger
2. Oracle/Bard
3. Wizard


Paladin of Shelyn 3

Spoiler:
Bard/Oracle & Wizard

Feels like they'd work best with the existing dynamic.


Male Half-Elf Bard 2 | Haunted Oracle (Life) 1

Cool! I got in!
thanks guys I'll try my best.
It's way past bedtime here, so I'll ponder about my entrance while sleeping, I was thinking something with humor, any hint is appreciated.
Got a few questions.
1) haven't found any reference about how to roll HP. is it rolled each level 2d8 ⇒ (6, 4) = 10 or is it max at first and then rolled 1d8 + 8 ⇒ (4) + 8 = 12
2) there are two paladins in the group, but I guess they are not overt about it, so I guess I don't recognize them as such. (ok not a question, but roll with me)
3) the aquatic elf is recognizable as such or does she look just like an elf? Knowledge geography/nature (same modifier) 1d20 + 7 ⇒ (14) + 7 = 21


Bardolin:

Hp is the latter calculation. Max at first, then roll thereafter.

The water elf is definitely recognizable. And she looks a little...dried out.

Finally, welcome!

Grand Lodge

Male Human Wizard(Scroll Master)/2

Ah, it feels so good to be in. Thanks for the select.

HP: 1d6 + 6 ⇒ (6) + 6 = 12

So, plus his con modifier that gives him 14 HP.

As for Dell's presence at the Salt Fortress, I'm thinking he's chasing some rare scroll or scrap of ancient lore that he heard was in the fortress, only it turned out to be worthless to him. He'll decide to move on and ask the party if they'd mind having his company. How does that sound?


I gave the party 1000 gold starting and, honestly, right now I can't remember what else. If someone from the party would kindly remind me of any other compensation I've given out, I'd be much obliged.

Grand Lodge

Cool, just wanted to make sure Dell had enough money for his wagon and horses.


Male Half-Orc Barbarian (Armored Hulk)/ 3

You guys are cool with Half-orcs right? :P lolz

Grand Lodge

Indeed. In fact, Dell finds them quite fascinating. Born of horrid monsters and civilized people, it's quite the dichotomy.


Male Half-Elf Bard 2 | Haunted Oracle (Life) 1

Since Bardolin just puts a foot in front of the other chasing the next cool thing he sees, there is no real reason for him to be at the salt fortress, other than just fate.

Since the party is currently crossing the fortress I pictured myself a scene where Bardolin run into them in some street/yard in his clumsy way, when he suss out the party is about for adventure and mystery he will stick to them no matter what

If nobody stops me, saying the above is a crappy idea, I'll be able to write my entrance in a coupple of hrs

Khaod Argus wrote:
You guys are cool with Half-orcs right? :P lolz

Me mommy used to say that we half-thing are special, and stupid kids that laugh at us are just scared of that.

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