
Aldhranhald |

@Stormstrider
These are NOT your 'typical' Hellknights as the alias suggests! - So Mended, what do you think of my resolution?
Perfect. Couldn't have done it better myself. Funny, poignant, and perfectly wrapped up for things to continue. Aldhranhald will have to keep his eyes out for these "three stooges." :D

Stormstrider |

[QUOTE="Aldhranhald"@Stormstrider, about the opening salvo you posted? Excellent. I thought it did a great job of giving everyone options, opening up the city to exploration, and establishing the idea that there's more than one way to skin any cat in your Emereld Spire adventure. It also lets us, the adventurers, have an organic way to meet each other. Excellently done.
Perfect. Couldn't have done it better myself. Funny, poignant, and perfectly wrapped up for things to continue. Aldhranhald will have to keep his eyes out for these "three stooges." :D
Awww! Thanks Mended! Appreciate it! I was rather nervous about trying to be a 'storyteller' of sorts. In the tabletop campaign I DM'd there was very little story-telling if any! I wasn't sure if I could do this or not, but it seems once I start writing it just flows! Then my posts end up seeming too long! Funny thing, that never happened with papers I had to write in high school or college! So far all my 'story-telling' parts have been made up as I write them. Obviously the town info & the info about the Spire was all from the book. Another funny thing? Since i found the PDF I no longer look at the book! Why should I? Right now I have 5 different screens open to different sections of the book so I can look at them & I can even make the print bigger on the screen than it is in the book, to read it easier! See? all that just because I wanted to say thanks!

Aldhranhald |

I know just what you mean, I have two monitors at work and frequently I have gaming stuff covering both of them!!! Thank you!!! Already having a TON of fun with Aldhranhald in your world.

Ozara "Ozzy" |

...magnus...
You do realize that the class is "magus", not "magnus", right?

Zero Zephyrus |

I thought I did :( Though now I am wondering where my brain dredged magnus from.

Ozara "Ozzy" |

Also, Zero, your AC is really low, even for a character with no armor proficiency. You know there are a couple of pieces of armor, the Haramaki, the Armored Kilt, and the Silken Ceremonial Armor, that have 0 ACP and 0 arcane spell failure chance, right?

Boudacia |

The link to my character sheet, now complete, is Boudacia .
Statistics are also on my new alias.

Aldhranhald |

The link to my character sheet, now complete, is Boudacia .
Statistics are also on my new alias.
"Wayne" is just your alter ego, right? Boudacia in bat form is Wayne? Is that a joke about batman? Bruce Wayne? Also what is "Bouda's Eye?" hex? -2 to what? Inquiring minds want to know. :)

Aldhranhald |

Really? A bat named Wayne? I'm cancelling the whole campaign right now! ;)
LOL!

Boudacia |

Wayne is Boudacia's familiar, also a Bat.
Bouda's Eye should not be there, and has been replaced by the correct Hex, slumber. My mistake. Bouda's Eye is a Hex available only to the Bouda Archetype, which I had on the original character when I was just putting it together as an abstract idea. Boudas have to be evil, which is verboten in this campaign.
If our GM is serious about not wanting a bat named Wayne [yes I had Batman in mind] I can name my familiar something else. Baseball perhaps. Or Bruce, that seems totally innocuous.
Will do a background soon.

Aldhranhald |

Wait, so you have a bat familiar, and you can also turn into a bat? Double bats?! Things are going to get batty fast.

Stormstrider |

Tangar Tharbad |

Just to let everyone know, I haven't disappeared. I'll jump in soon, just having some issues I need to work out..
I hate writing backgrounds. I'm not the greatest writer, in my view.. but I'll hash it out this week.. Our GM has mentioned the friday deadline, so I will work on that ...
I'm more used to other boards and how they work, Piazos is a foreign beast to me.. lol

Stormstrider |

I hate writing backgrounds. I'm not the greatest writer, in my view.. but I'll hash it out this week.. Our GM has mentioned the friday deadline, so I will work on that ...
No problem, but I don't require a background! That is purely player's choice!
By the way, I just entered a post giving instructions on how to create a tag-line above your avatar!

Zero Zephyrus |

Stormstrider, out of curiosity will you allow me to fiddle with inventory to acquire some adequate armor? Thank you Ozzy for pointing that out, I had considered it, but my gold was running dangerously low. Time for inventory I suppose.

Boudacia |

Wait, so you have a bat familiar, and you can also turn into a bat? Double bats?! Things are going to get batty fast.
The bat familiar is actually really good for Boudacia as well as being the obviously right choice in terms of flavour. It gives me +3 to fly if it is within a mile and I fly as a bat. And I gain the Alertness feat while Wayne is within arm's reach. A bat has blindsense and when I am a bat, I can speak bat, so I can talk to it.
I expect Wayne to contribute a lot in our... battles.

Stormstrider |

Stormstrider, out of curiosity will you allow me to fiddle with inventory to acquire some adequate armor? Thank you Ozzy for pointing that out, I had considered it, but my gold was running dangerously low. Time for inventory I suppose.
Certainly! Like Mended did, as long as it has not yet been used, it can be switched!

Stormstrider |

BIG ANNOUNCEMENT Well, it's big to me at least but still important to you all. I have another friend joining! I hadn't thought about it before, but I realized there's no reason I couldn't have friends join from anywhere in the world is there? I mean, we already have Australia here, and seems like there was someone else in another country? Well anyways this will be my BFF and she is in South Carolina, USA! Yes! You read that correctly! We have an actual woman joining the group! Maybe she'll play a male character just for confusion? Hahaha! ;) Don't know class or race yet. She should be entering her first post any moment now (may even beat this one!). She may need some assistance & patience as she is brand new to PBP! (Play by Post - for her to know!) so she is going to be learning the system of how to post and use this website as well. She has played DnD & Pathfinder for many years as well, so she knows the game & I think she is a GREAT player! Please give her a kind welcome once she's on!

MistressRandom |

Hello, all! I am Mistress Random, and I hope you don't mind if I join you for a bit of adventure and mayhem. I don't know what class/race I will be playing yet, recommendations will be gladly accepted! Here goes for the stats:
Stat Array One
Stat 1: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (6, 4) + 6 = 16
Stat 2: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (4, 6) + 6 = 16
Stat 3: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (2, 6) + 6 = 14
Stat 4: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (3, 1) + 6 = 10
Stat 5: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (5, 2) + 6 = 13
Stat 6: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (3, 3) + 6 = 12
Stat Array Two
Stat 1: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (5, 4) + 6 = 15
Stat 2: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (4, 6) + 6 = 16
Stat 3: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (1, 4) + 6 = 11
Stat 4: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (5, 1) + 6 = 12
Stat 5: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (5, 5) + 6 = 16
Stat 6: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (1, 1) + 6 = 8
Stat Array Three
Stat 1: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (5, 5) + 6 = 16
Stat 2: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (2, 3) + 6 = 11
Stat 3: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (1, 3) + 6 = 10
Stat 4: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (6, 6) + 6 = 18
Stat 5: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (1, 6) + 6 = 13
Stat 6: 2d6 + 6 ⇒ (3, 2) + 6 = 11
Wow, those are not bad! I will reserve final judgement until after race & class selection, however.

Ozara "Ozzy" |

It looks like we might end up with two different groups that might not meet each other until they arrive at the spire at the same time! If the remaining. If another group, maybe including a human barbarian and a dwarven Cleric/Warpriest, takes the Crowned Skull mission, we could all end up meeting at the Spire (or at least on the road to it).
Won't know where Mistress Random's character fits in until she figures out her character concept. If you're looking for a hole in the current makeup of the party, I would suggest a rogue or a slayer. You won't have any trouble getting a flanking bonus in this party.

Ozara "Ozzy" |

That would be good too... or Brawler. I think Brawler is an underrated class. Probably my favorite of with those full BAB.
Edit: Lawful alignments in this setting pretty much require being ok with slavery. Should probably know that before choosing to be a monk.

Boudacia |

Hello Mistress Random.
You are that minority, a female roleplayer. Me, I am a freak, a male player who tends to play female characters. Welcome to the group and I hope you enjoy the game.
On getting the group together, I had thought of that when asking about putting a notice on the board myself.

Ozara "Ozzy" |

Hello Mistress Random.
You are that minority, a female roleplayer. Me, I am a freak, a male player who tends to play female characters. Welcome to the group and I hope you enjoy the game.
On getting the group together, I had thought of that when asking about putting a notice on the board myself.
Btw, I'm also not a real female. Just playing one in this game.

Boudacia |

Rules Question.
Boudacia has the Bat Shape feat, which allows her to assume the form of a bat as Beast Shape 2. What happens to stuff I may be carrying.
Second you take one particular bat form when you just use the feat. If you have a bat pelt, you can assume the form of the kind of bat the pelt was taken from.
The question is if I take the pelt of a microbat, and some of them are really small, will that make me smaller and harder to detect and hit.
I think the RAW is no, but it isn't logical.

Ozara "Ozzy" |

"Unless the new form is humanoid, all gear merges into the form. Constant bonuses (except AC) remain. Activation items can't be activated. Material components are not accessible while merged into the form." (This note is not visible on the current version of d20pfsrd because of one of the many bugs in the conversion process they're going through. You have to look at the old site to see it.)
Also, a smaller bat would have a size bonus to AC and to stealth, so yes, by RAW it would make you harder to detect and hit.

Stormstrider |

With that Boudacia leads the way towards the Goldenfire Order.
For clarification, there is no actual establishment of the Goldenfire Order here. Their only established offices are in the town of Thornkeep, thus "The Goldenfire Order of Thornkeep". The notice on the board did say: "Please see Lady Iliara Starcloak at The Juliver Arms for details." So, actually, it would be a VERY LIKELY AND ALSO CORRECT, assumption on Ozzy's part! No harm done, just want to be clear on that.
Everybody, I also just want to point out that there is no reason you should take only one of these job postings and head to the Spire! It only makes sense to get all of them and 'kill 3 birds with one stone' does it not??? Nothing on the message board that says your only allowed to take one job! For some reason or other, there have been 2 or 3 of you who have now made comments that seem to indicate that your only taking one job. If you want to do this one 'quest' at a time, this is going to take a LOT longer and it's a LOT more trips back and forth to town!
Also for everybody! Once you have all your skills & saves and such set, would you please go to the following link & input your info correctly please? Mainly just replace the question mark with your correct bonus or minus (if it is a minus you will also need to change the plus to a minus). It will have some instructions at the top to follow please.
I will be posting the link at the top of our page for future reference.

Aldhranhald |

1,000 welcomes MistressRandom! Glad to have you aboard. As long as the GM is okay with it, more PCs are always better than fewer, at least in terms of being able to overcome challenges. Looking forward to whatever character you bring to the group. Ozzy's suggestion of a Brawler is a good one. Monk wouldn't be bad either, but as Ozzy mentioned, playing a lawful alignment in this region means you have to be okay with slavery. Since my character is an ex-slave, that would more than likely give us some in character moments of tension, but there's nothing wrong with that. Makes for good role play!!! Again, welcome aboard, so glad to have you. This bunch of jackals could use a woman's touch. :D

Aldhranhald |

Got all my numbers on the Dice Roller Google Doc. Take a look and let me know if everything is okay. :)

Boudacia |

The notice on the board did say: "Please see Lady Iliara Starcloak at The Juliver Arms for details." So, actually, it would be a VERY LIKELY AND ALSO CORRECT, assumption on Ozzy's part! No harm done, just want to be clear on that.
The definition of "assumption", in the relevant sense of the word, from the Oxford English dictionary Online:-
"assumption
NOUN
1A thing that is accepted as true or as certain to happen, without proof:
‘they made certain assumptions about the market’
[with clause] ‘we're working on the assumption that the time of death was after midnight’"
As you correctly say, Stormstrider, Ozzy has correctly deduced where we are heading from the notice. But that is just the point, she accepts it as true based on proof, ie it is not an assumption but a deduction.

Boudacia |

Everybody, I also just want to point out that there is no reason you should take only one of these job postings and head to the Spire! It only makes sense to get all of them and 'kill 3 birds with one stone' does it not??? Nothing on the message board that says your only allowed to take one job! For some reason or other, there have been 2 or 3 of you who have now made comments that seem to indicate that your only taking one job. If you want to do this one 'quest' at a time, this is going to take a LOT longer and it's a LOT more trips back and forth to town!
I had this in mind whether it was evident from my post or no.
My scheme was to get paid for all 3 jobs and accumulate a large pile of loot from the spire. What could possibly go wrong?

Boudacia |

"Unless the new form is humanoid, all gear merges into the form. Constant bonuses (except AC) remain. Activation items can't be activated. Material components are not accessible while merged into the form." (This note is not visible on the current version of d20pfsrd because of one of the many bugs in the conversion process they're going through. You have to look at the old site to see it.)
Also, a smaller bat would have a size bonus to AC and to stealth, so yes, by RAW it would make you harder to detect and hit.
Thanks Ozzy. Your first paragraph is what I guessed but didn't really know. So you take your normal gear.
On the second para, Bat Form says you assume bat form as per Beast Shape 2, which reads:-
"Beast Shape II
School transmutation (polymorph); Level alchemist 4, bloodrager 4, magus 4, sorcerer/wizard 4
DESCRIPTION
This spell functions as beast shape I, except that it also allows you to assume the form of a Tiny or Large creature of the animal type. If the form you assume has any of the following abilities, you gain the listed ability: climb 60 feet, fly 60 feet (good maneuverability), swim 60 feet, darkvision 60 feet, low-light vision, scent, grab, pounce, and trip.
Tiny animal: If the form you take is that of a Tiny animal, you gain a +4 size bonus to your Dexterity, a -2 penalty to your Strength, and a +1 natural armor bonus.
Large animal: If the form you take is that of a Large animal, you gain a +4 size bonus to your Strength, a -2 penalty to your Dexterity, and a +4 natural armor bonus."
The world's smallest bat is Kitti's Hog-Nosed Bat, aka the Bumbebee Bat, which is only 1.1 to 1.3 Inches long. That is way smaller than tiny, and I think if you turned into one you would get a bigger stealth bonus. But given the wording of the feat and Beast Shape II I am not at all sure that is the RAW.
But I am quite OK to go along with Stormstrider's ruling, and i certainly don't have any bat pelts yet.

Zero Zephyrus |

Welcome to the group Mistress! More players is always welcome in my opinion.

MistressRandom |

Thanks for the welcome, everyone! I am leaning away from monk, per the whole lawful issue (I really prefer to play non-lawful characters anyway) and have looked into slayer & brawler. I believe I will be going with brawler, but I need my good friend Stormy to okay my race. I really would like to play a dhamphir, though it would complicate Alex's healing a bit! Let me know what you think.

Tangar Tharbad |

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Welcome Random.. I hope you have fun, I'm sure Stormstrider will make this fun and entertaining..

Ozara "Ozzy" |

Everybody, I also just want to point out that there is no reason you should take only one of these job postings and head to the Spire! It only makes sense to get all of them and 'kill 3 birds with one stone' does it not??? Nothing on the message board that says your only allowed to take one job! For some reason or other, there have been 2 or 3 of you who have now made comments that seem to indicate that your only taking one job. If you want to do this one 'quest' at a time, this is going to take a LOT longer and it's a LOT more trips back and forth to town!
That was my initial thought as well, but I think it makes more RP sense that Aldhranhald would be interested in the mapping mission, Boudacia would be interested in the goldenfire mission, and a group with a barbarian and a warpriest (and possibly a brawler or slayer, thought she could be added to one of the other groups instead) would take the crowned skull job, and the three groups meet on the road and decide they have a better chance working as one big team.

Aldhranhald |

I was actually thinking that after Aldhranhald figured out what Lord Royst wanted, he'd post something on the boards himself. I was thinking a notice that made it clear that Aldhranhald, and maybe Zero depending on how their conversation goes, would be traversing to the Spire on an information gathering mission. Further, being a logical elf, he realizes others might be headed there for other missions, and that combining forces makes the most advantageous sense. All interested hearty adventurers should inquire of him with the proprietor of the Helmed Lady wherein he's taken up rooms. :)
Of course, that would mean that at some point all the members of the party would have to return to the boards for another look before they head off to the spire. So, maybe the GM's firm hand of narration making them all meet at the entrance of the Spire is just easier. I don't really care either way. I've always found the "get together for the same purpose" is one of the hardest parts of any campaign. It's the reason the cliche "you meet in a tavern" is still around.
Edit: @Stormstrider, correct. When searching for traps Aldhranhald gets an additional +1 from the trapfinder trait for a total of +10, NOT +19!!! Though, that would be awesome. :P

Stormstrider |

....Tiny animal: If the form you take is that of a Tiny animal, you gain a +4 size bonus to your Dexterity, a -2 penalty to your Strength, and a +1 natural armor bonus.
Basically yes, you seem to have it right. Here's the ruling I found and this is what we are going with:
When you cast a polymorph spell that changes you into a creature of the animal, dragon, elemental, magical beast, plant, or vermin type, all of your gear melds into your body. Items that provide constant bonuses and do not need to be activated continue to function while melded in this way (with the exception of armor and shield bonuses, which cease to function). Items that require activation cannot be used while you maintain that form. While in such a form, you cannot cast any spells that require material components (unless you have the Eschew Materials or Natural Spell feat), and can only cast spells with somatic or verbal components if the form you choose has the capability to make such movements or speak, such as a dragon. Other polymorph spells might be subject to this restriction as well, if they change you into a form that is unlike your original form (subject to GM discretion). If your new form does not cause your equipment to meld into your form, the equipment resizes to match your new size.
So, unless someone can prove me wrong, if you had a +1 breastplate, you would lose the ac from that (armor bonus), but a +1 ring of protection would continue to work (deflection bonus). Does that sound right to everyone? And this quote also makes it quite clear that you can cast spells with no verbal or somatic components in the case of the bat.

Ozara "Ozzy" |

That's right, but don't forget the size bonuses/penalties to AC. Don't know why they're not explicitly listed, but they apply on attack rolls (not damage), AC, and they're reversed for CMB/CMD. Also, for stealth:
"Size: Creatures gain a bonus or penalty on Stealth checks based on their size: Fine +16, Diminutive +12, Tiny +8, Small +4, Medium +0, Large –4, Huge –8, Gargantuan –12, Colossal –16."
As for bumblebee bats, they would be a fine creature based on their wingspan or possibly smaller based on their length (though pathfinder doesn't define any smaller size classes). However, there is no such creature in the pathfinder bestiary, though you could probably simulate one by applying the young template to a common bat (or, you know, Boudacia could just skin a young bat).

Stormstrider |

Thanks for the welcome, everyone! I am leaning away from monk, per the whole lawful issue (I really prefer to play non-lawful characters anyway) and have looked into slayer & brawler. I believe I will be going with brawler, but I need my good friend Stormy to okay my race. I really would like to play a dhamphir, though it would complicate Alex's healing a bit! Let me know what you think.
Granted! Dhampir brawler. Makes sense kind of. Though I will not allow any of the Alternate Racial Traits (primarily because for this module your better off with the original option.) nor Variant Dhampir Heritages.
Unless the subject comes up earlier, the first one or two times that Alex does his channel positive energy to heal, we will have to play it as he doesn't know so he will damage you instead. After he learns of it, it's no problem as far as damaging you, because he gets to choose who it affects.
Now, as to how are you going to get back HP besides resting? Your going to have to figure it out for now!

Ozara "Ozzy" |

Btw, infernal/celestial healing is not a positive energy effect, it's just accelerated healing, so it should have the same effect on a dhampir that it does on anyone else. If we're going to lose alex and depend mostly on that for healing (via wands), it won't be a problem. You'll probably want to have a potion of inflict X wounds or two for emergencies, though.

Ozara "Ozzy" |

Just a heads up, I have a work trip coming up. I'm flying out tomorrow morning, and I'll be away for about a week. I should still be able to post at least once a day, but it might be less frequent than usual, depending on the wifi wherever I happen to be.

Boudacia |

Well, have fun on the work trip Ozzy. And a question for in game, do you want Ozzy's class to be a mystery. Boudacia is smart, like int 20 smart, and given her head will ask some questions to figure out what you are, at least to Summoner. If you want mystery, I will just say "It [Mr Blinky] is probably some kind of spontaneous magical effect" and leave it at that.
On getting the group together, I asked about posting a notice on the board myself and Stormstrider said I could. A notice seeking to get in contact with others going to the Spire. Or we could run into each other responding to one of the advertisements.

Ozara "Ozzy" |

Not a mystery so much as that she doesn't necessarily know what it's called. The strict classes and archetypes are out-of-character decisions, and don't necessarily map directly to how characters think about themselves. Ozzy won't describe herself as a summoner or call what she's doing summoning, not because she's being coy about it, but because that's not how she thinks about it. She believes that she has the ability to make the things she imagines real, and doesn't really know or care how or why it works, as long as it does.