Lorth did not love his job... but he could not complain, he had earnt more in the course of the last month than he had in the three years prior trying to scratch out a living as either a guard or toiling in the smithy. Sure the hours sucked, but the buffet at the school cafeteria was impressive and he took a certain perverse pleasure in being able to torment the younglings having just started at the school.
But by Droskar his back hurt, and the last fireball the snotty nosed elfling threw had singed off part of his beard. Sighing Lorth took another swig of the moose urine that the locals passed off for beer and winced as he heard a tremulous and nasal voice call "Mister Lorth? Mister Lorth?" Shaking his head he rose to his feet and drew his hair back into a short ponytail "Comin lad... I'm on me way" and began trudging back to the blackened and scorched gymnasium that was his place of work. A young half-elf skipped up to him and trailed in his wake, nattering on in his nasal voice "Today should be exciting Mister Lorth Sir, I heard that Maester Solvig has a new evocation with... interesting results... aren't you excited Mister Lorth?"
How would you like hit points calculated?
I'm making some progress. Ended up getting a good chunk figured out (decided on Rakshasa bloodline since it is the most fitting of the four). He is extremely skill point starved unfortunately, but managed points in pretty much everything I wanted.
I'd like these two for my RP feats if that is alright:
Realistic Likeness
Extra Cantrips -> (Open/Close and Prestidigitation)If the later doesn't work I was looking at Skill Focus (Bluff) or Magical Tail instead. Open to suggestions/changes too, of course.
For Traits I'm looking at:
Slippery
Ghost SightLater isn't really useful due to a low perception score, but the flavor is really nice and the idea of him noticing spirits and similar creatures occasionally could make for some fun situations and rp.
I'm fine with most of those, though technically Belflower is if you're helping to release halfling slaves. Though regardless of the fluff i'm fine with the mechanical benefit.
Also, I'm a little unclear on Realistic Likeness. Combined with your disguise self ability does this give you a +20 to disguise yourself as someone specific? Seems a bit excessive.
Hadn't realized that was a Halfling one. Whoops. I'll try re-flavor it to better fit.
As for the other point, normally a Kitsune can only take a single human appearance that does not change. The feat expands on that by letting him imitate the appearance of others (humans that is) that he has seen. The regular ability gives him a +10 disguise to appear human alone. I do not believe they would stack as they have different functions (nor would I allow them to if I was the DM). Does that make it any clearer? If you aren't sure on it, feel free to say no and I'll pick one of the other options.
*edit*
Also I just looked and they are both circumstance bonuses, so they wouldn't stack in any case. Same with the disguise self spell.
Still working on updating her, but you can check out what I've done and see where I'm going with her.
She looks interesting. Basically you're a well known secret that was sent away to boarding school. I like it.
Because this school will be relatively famous you've been ordered to keep your true surname a secret. The details of who pays your tuition is kept in the strictest confidence. Please incorporate that into your backstory/behaviors as you see fit. ;-)
Edit: I've never been personally liked using enchantments for my characters, so it'll be interesting to see someone who likes it.
Lorth did not love his job... but he could not complain, he had earnt more in the course of the last month than he had in the three years prior trying to scratch out a living as either a guard or toiling in the smithy. Sure the hours sucked, but the buffet at the school cafeteria was impressive and he took a certain perverse pleasure in being able to torment the younglings having just started at the school.
But by Droskar his back hurt, and the last fireball the snotty nosed elfling threw had singed off part of his beard. Sighing Lorth took another swig of the moose urine that the locals passed off for beer and winced as he heard a tremulous and nasal voice call "Mister Lorth? Mister Lorth?" Shaking his head he rose to his feet and drew his hair back into a short ponytail "Comin lad... I'm on me way" and began trudging back to the blackened and scorched gymnasium that was his place of work. A young half-elf skipped up to him and trailed in his wake, nattering on in his nasal voice "Today should be exciting Mister Lorth Sir, I heard that Maester Solvig has a new evocation with... interesting results... aren't you excited Mister Lorth?"
Amusing and Interesting, but till wrapping my head around it a bit. A couple of questions to help me understand if you please.
1) Why do students need a living/real person for target practice?
2) I'm assuming feats like toughness and the Dwarven SR trait/feats?
3) Not a question, but I was hoping someone would play a dwarf. I like the dwarves sensibility in an area that will by it's nature have a lot of elves. SInce magic is part of their culture.
Hadn't realized that was a Halfling one. Whoops. I'll try re-flavor it to better fit.
As for the other point, normally a Kitsune can only take a single human appearance that does not change. The feat expands on that by letting him imitate the appearance of others (humans that is) that he has seen. The regular ability gives him a +10 disguise to appear human alone. I do not believe they would stack as they have different functions (nor would I allow them to if I was the DM). Does that make it any clearer? If you aren't sure on it, feel free to say no and I'll pick one of the other options.
*edit*
Also I just looked and they are both circumstance bonuses, so they wouldn't stack in any case. Same with the disguise self spell.
You can take the mechanics of the Belflower if you want. It's just stealth +1 and class skill. Re-flavor it as whatever you want. Just make it thematic. Or you could just find another trait that effectively does the same thing. I'm sure there's one somewhere. ;-)
Ok, the disguise thing isn't quite as ridiculous as I thought. Effectively it's disguise self at will. Normally you have one human face. With this you can change faces. I can work with that. Just don't abuse it please. I'm tentative of allowing it at will, but seeing as how you could get a relatively cheap magic item and accomplish the same thing I'm going to roll with it. It'll work just like disguise self , but remember it's visual only. You'll still sound like you and anyone who interacts with you will get a will save to disbelieve. This means touching or having a conversation with you. Is that your understanding also?
Oh, and can I also have cute little bat wings that only get big enough to actually carry my weight when I use my Fly Hex? :)
Very interesting TCG.
Like yourself, I also luv deh magics.
("Hello. My name is Ragadolf, and I'm a magic junkie") :)
Question, how many people are you looking to involve in this mad magic experiment of yours? Because I am always interested in making another magic person. :D
(Although one poster did point out that I've probably made more Wiz characters that JK Rowling!) ;(
It looks like you already have an eclectic collection of PC and Classes. Most promising.
what do you think of that dwarf char? I like the idea, it is fun, but to me it feels a bit more like a teacher than a student XD
edit: can I research spells as wizards with my char? it is said sorcerers and bards are up to GM to be able or not be able to do it, but a research/adventure focused girl feels as it would be ideal char to try out LOTS of spells and ideas =)
I can't seem to find where you mentioned a dwarf character. Remind me please.
You can earn your way by teaching lesser classes if you like. Cantrips 101, that sort of thing. I imagine the school would need a few of these and 5th level is about right for that kind of work.
You can research spells, but it's expensive and time consuming. The book mentions a guideline of 1000GP per spell level plus some amount of time. Perhaps instead of "research" he/she just does things with the spells he/she has to see what will happen. Or if you want to change something minor with an existing spell we can talk about that. An electric flaming sphere for example. Or simply use metamagic to come up with unique effects. Basically i'm saying there are options. Just depends on exactly what you're looking to get out of it.
starting cash, what is it? o.O
(sorry if I missed that answered)
5th lvl WBL.
don't tieflings have a variant or feat that gives vestal bat wings?
Off to search the PRD...
1) Why do students need a living/real person for target practice?
Simplest answer is why not? - surely it would be more 'educational' to aim spells at a living target so you can truly ken the visceral response, smell the charred flesh, and what not... and if you're not quick enough get a crumpled nose for your trouble ;) Obviously depends on exactly what sort of shenanigans you plan on springing on the students through the course of the PbP.
I wouldn't see him as part of the 'staff' but more as a campus chew toy. But since it's decent enough pay and keeps him in food and drink he endures to have it done to himself again.
2) I'm assuming feats like toughness and the Dwarven SR trait/feats?
I actually wouldn't take the SR trait, as it overwrites Hardy. With Hardy and Steel Soul, you get a +4 against all spells and SLAs, whereas the SR at 5th level would only be 10 - which would be easily overcome.
Build would be focused around some class dips and cherry picking to get as much as possible to get re-rolls or Evasion style class features.
Oh, and can I also have cute little bat wings that only get big enough to actually carry my weight when I use my Fly Hex? :)
If it keeps with the mechanics you can fluff it however you want.
don't tieflings have a variant or feat that gives vestal bat wings?Off to search the PRD...
It's in the Advanced Race guide somewhere.
Very interesting TCG.
Like yourself, I also luv deh magics.
("Hello. My name is Ragadolf, and I'm a magic junkie") :)
Question, how many people are you looking to involve in this mad magic experiment of yours? Because I am always interested in making another magic person. :D
(Although one poster did point out that I've probably made more Wiz characters that JK Rowling!) ;(
It looks like you already have an eclectic collection of PC and Classes. Most promising.
5-7 depending on interest.
Found it. :)
Vestigial Wings Some tieflings possess a pair of undersized, withered, or stunted wings like a mockery of those of their fiendish forbearer. Sometimes these wings are leathery, like those of a bat. Other times they are covered with a scattering of black, red, or violet feathers. Rare manifestations can take even more bizarre forms. These wings do not provide the lift required for actual flight, but do have enough power to aid flight attained by some other method, and grant a +4 racial bonus on Fly skill checks. This racial trait replaces skilled.
5-7 depending on interest.Very interesting TCG.
Like yourself, I also luv deh magics.
("Hello. My name is Ragadolf, and I'm a magic junkie") :)
Question, how many people are you looking to involve in this mad magic experiment of yours? Because I am always interested in making another magic person. :D
(Although one poster did point out that I've probably made more Wiz characters that JK Rowling!) ;(
It looks like you already have an eclectic collection of PC and Classes. Most promising.
Wonderful.
With your permission, please color me interested. :)I shall try to come up with another PC post-haste. (And I'll have to actually stretch my brain to keep up with some of the other concepts I've seen so far!)
;)
1) Why do students need a living/real person for target practice?
Simplest answer is why not? - surely it would be more 'educational' to aim spells at a living target so you can truly ken the visceral response, smell the charred flesh, and what not... and if you're not quick enough get a crumpled nose for your trouble ;) Obviously depends on exactly what sort of shenanigans you plan on springing on the students through the course of the PbP.
I wouldn't see him as part of the 'staff' but more as a campus chew toy. But since it's decent enough pay and keeps him in food and drink he endures to have it done to himself again.
Seems a bit masochistic, but I have a small addition that i think will make us both happy. **Devious grin**
You can be a sparring partner. You're not a target so much as a competent opponent. You'll get the use of a merciful weapon of your choice. Your job will be to let the students try to stop you while you do your best to beat the snot out of them.
How does that sound?
Fine by me - can I assume that Lorth therefore doesn't need to take a level in a casty class?
I don't want to do overpowered stuff, just flashy ones, there are also lvl 0 spells that could be researched as example
the dwarf I mentioned was Mark Sweetman's
gotcha. I'll work with you for making unique 0-level spells. Just be sure they're in line with other spells of their level.
I'm good with dwarves. I like them actually. They're surly. I can relate.
Found it. :)
Vestigial Wings Some tieflings possess a pair of undersized, withered, or stunted wings like a mockery of those of their fiendish forbearer. Sometimes these wings are leathery, like those of a bat. Other times they are covered with a scattering of black, red, or violet feathers. Rare manifestations can take even more bizarre forms. These wings do not provide the lift required for actual flight, but do have enough power to aid flight attained by some other method, and grant a +4 racial bonus on Fly skill checks. This racial trait replaces skilled.
You can take it if you want it.
Fine by me - can I assume that Lorth therefore doesn't need to take a level in a casty class?
lol. Not unless you want to.
I rather like this concept. You'll of course have access to as much healing as you need. The school may even spring for that lesser cracked ioun stone that allows you to regenerate. Implanted too if you like. Let me think on that, but maybe.
I'm going to have such a cute little batgirl witch. Boys of the school beware. :)
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Parlour_Tricks_%283.5e_Feat%29
http://www.dandwiki.com/wiki/Improved_Prestidigitation_%283.5e_Feat%29Not in Pathfinder, but these would be useful for the concept, although I would still wish to make a few original spells too, I wonder on what helpful dwarf Merlaine can try them out. ^_^
edit: aww, its no fun if it hits back =(
Those are cool and I approve.
I have a concept in mind, but wanted to ask a few questions first.
How do you feel about characters starting as middle-aged or beyond?
If you have a Wildblooded bloodline, can you use Eldritch Heritage to get the bloodline abilities of the associated bloodline that got traded out for the Wildblooded line?
I've made many arcane casters in my time, and each had a spell or two that was a favorite. I was thinking earlier today that it would a lot of fun to run a sorcerer that used all of the spells I've come to love using over the years. Normally, I build my sorcerers with a theme in mind, and choose spells that fit that theme, so this would be a bit different. I'm thinking a professorial type, hoping to research the differences between folks who cast spells as wizards versus sorcerers, bards, and summoners. Sage bloodline seems to fit that theme really well, but I can also envision him with a familiar, hence the question above. I can see him taking the Eldritch Heritage feat to get a familiar from the Arcane bloodline.
I can see his tuition at the college being paid by somebody intested in his chosen line of research, perhaps the Church of Nethys, or a wealthy noble dabbler who like to have intelligent esoteric topics of conversation for dinner parties. Whether the Eldrithc Heritage thing is a go or now, he'll likely have Skill Focus Knowledge Arcana, to represent his dedication to research into the nature of arcanew magic, so he could also be a teacher of, well, the Knowledge Arcana skill!
I'm going to have such a cute little batgirl witch. Boys of the school beware. :)
if you also say you're also a succubus that needs to suck life-energy out of others to survive I will reward you with an Anime Award ^_^
Technically she is only half-succubus. So like a Dhampir doesn't need to suck blood, she doesn't need to suck life energy. So no award just yet. :)
After giving it a little more though I'll leave the Grippli for a later date.
Instead I'd like to propose a Gnome Oracle/Sorcerer going for Mystic Theurge. The guy would be a blaster and a pyromaniac. Not sure on details though, I'll get to that tomorrow as right now I'm off to bed. Thinking about making the guy a Bleachling, if that would be ok.
You can take the mechanics of the Belflower if you want. It's just stealth +1 and class skill. Re-flavor it as whatever you want. Just make it thematic. Or you could just find another trait that effectively does the same thing. I'm sure there's one somewhere. ;-)
Ok, the disguise thing isn't quite as ridiculous as I thought. Effectively it's disguise self at will. Normally you have one human face. With this you can change faces. I can work with that. Just don't abuse it please. I'm tentative of allowing it at will, but seeing as how you could get a relatively cheap magic item and accomplish the same thing I'm going to roll with it. It'll work just like disguise self , but remember it's visual only. You'll still sound like you and anyone who interacts with you will get a will save to disbelieve. This means touching or having a conversation with you. Is that your understanding also?
I'll keep looking over traits and see what I can find then.
Hm. Upon looking into it, I admit it isn't as clear to me as I thought. It mentions you can mimic the physical features of an individual when using your racial change shape ability. The change shape ability is actually a supernatural ability that functions similar to "alter self" and alter self is a transmutation spell. This would suggest it isn't an illusion (or subject to a saving throw) but as you said it wouldn't alter your voice, mannerisms, or otherwise. Also it is limited to your own gender (per the racial change shape) and you must use it to imitate someone you have seen previously (an individual). Additionally, it does not in any way alter your clothes or belongings (mentions only the physical appearance of the individual). The bonuses would not stack since they are all circumstance in any case (as you mentioned).
That is my understanding on it. Honestly, I'm feeling it might be too full of unanswered questions to use.
What about this instead:
Magical Tail
This would give him 2/day disguise self (EXACTLY as the spell including will save, duration, and all) at his character level. Potentially much easier to understand and does the same shifting I was after but more limited and not at will.
Bleachling? what, like a Hollow?
edit: as far I know Kitsune abilities are actual true changes not illusions
I have a concept in mind, but wanted to ask a few questions first.
How do you feel about characters starting as middle-aged or beyond?
If you have a Wildblooded bloodline, can you use Eldritch Heritage to get the bloodline abilities of the associated bloodline that got traded out for the Wildblooded line?I've made many arcane casters in my time, and each had a spell or two that was a favorite. I was thinking earlier today that it would a lot of fun to run a sorcerer that used all of the spells I've come to love using over the years. Normally, I build my sorcerers with a theme in mind, and choose spells that fit that theme, so this would be a bit different. I'm thinking a professorial type, hoping to research the differences between folks who cast spells as wizards versus sorcerers, bards, and summoners. Sage bloodline seems to fit that theme really well, but I can also envision him with a familiar, hence the question above. I can see him taking the Eldritch Heritage feat to get a familiar from the Arcane bloodline.
I can see his tuition at the college being paid by somebody intested in his chosen line of research, perhaps the Church of Nethys, or a wealthy noble dabbler who like to have intelligent esoteric topics of conversation for dinner parties. Whether the Eldrithc Heritage thing is a go or now, he'll likely have Skill Focus Knowledge Arcana, to represent his dedication to research into the nature of arcanew magic, so he could also be a teacher of, well, the Knowledge Arcana skill!
You can start middle aged if you want. Just be sure to play it up and have a good reason beyond mechanical benefit.
THe wild blooded + heritage feats work mechanically and you can take them both if you like. Just keep the relative level differences in mind.
Regarding tuition: Any of those work. Just pick one and run with it. You can also be an assistant teacher, but you'll be teaching low level characters along the lines of Cantrips 101. You're not a professor so much as a glorified intern. That may change but you're only level 5.
After giving it a little more though I'll leave the Grippli for a later date.
Instead I'd like to propose a Gnome Oracle/Sorcerer going for Mystic Theurge. The guy would be a blaster and a pyromaniac. Not sure on details though, I'll get to that tomorrow as right now I'm off to bed. Thinking about making the guy a Bleachling, if that would be ok.
I think I understand, but link/mail me the specifics on Bleachlings. He's be morose and gothy while simultaneously looking for "the joy in life?"
I'll keep looking over traits and see what I can find then.
Hm. Upon looking into it, I admit it isn't as clear to me as I thought. It mentions you can mimic the physical features of an individual when using your racial change shape ability. The change shape ability is actually a supernatural ability that functions similar to "alter self" and alter self is a transmutation spell. This would suggest it isn't an illusion (or subject to a saving throw) but as you said it wouldn't alter your voice, mannerisms, or otherwise. Also it is limited to your own gender (per the racial change shape) and you must use it to imitate someone you have seen previously (an individual). Additionally, it does not in any way alter your clothes or belongings (mentions only the physical appearance of the individual). The bonuses would not stack since they are all circumstance in any case (as you mentioned).
That is my understanding on it. Honestly, I'm feeling it might be too full of unanswered questions to use.
What about this instead:
Magical TailThis would give him 2/day disguise self (EXACTLY as the spell including will save, duration, and all) at his character level. Potentially much easier to understand and does the same shifting I was after but more limited and not at will.
I approve the tail for all the reasons you mentioned.
TCG, seems you will have a good success with the game, a lot of people are interested in this setting :)
Apparently. lol. I'm having a hard time keeping up with the posts.
I have a concept in mind, but wanted to ask a few questions first.
How do you feel about characters starting as middle-aged or beyond?
If you have a Wildblooded bloodline, can you use Eldritch Heritage to get the bloodline abilities of the associated bloodline that got traded out for the Wildblooded line?I've made many arcane casters in my time, and each had a spell or two that was a favorite. I was thinking earlier today that it would a lot of fun to run a sorcerer that used all of the spells I've come to love using over the years. Normally, I build my sorcerers with a theme in mind, and choose spells that fit that theme, so this would be a bit different. I'm thinking a professorial type, hoping to research the differences between folks who cast spells as wizards versus sorcerers, bards, and summoners. Sage bloodline seems to fit that theme really well, but I can also envision him with a familiar, hence the question above. I can see him taking the Eldritch Heritage feat to get a familiar from the Arcane bloodline.
I can see his tuition at the college being paid by somebody intested in his chosen line of research, perhaps the Church of Nethys, or a wealthy noble dabbler who like to have intelligent esoteric topics of conversation for dinner parties. Whether the Eldrithc Heritage thing is a go or now, he'll likely have Skill Focus Knowledge Arcana, to represent his dedication to research into the nature of arcanew magic, so he could also be a teacher of, well, the Knowledge Arcana skill!
You can start middle aged if you want. Just be sure to play it up and have a good reason beyond mechanical benefit.
THe wild blooded + heritage feats work mechanically and you can take them both if you like. Just keep the relative level differences in mind.
Regarding tuition: Any of those work. Just pick one and run with it. You can also be an assistant teacher, but you'll be teaching low level characters along the lines of Cantrips 101. You're not a professor so much as a...
Agreed on the playing it up part. Starting in the older age categories for casters just to get the mental boosts is fairly cheesy IMO. I asked because I envision this guy as a classic British professor type (yes, I get that he would be more of a teaching assistant, and that's fine). I also see him as a man who's been engaged in this line of research for a long time, without really getting anywhere, which is why he's still just a teaching assistant instead of a real professor, but as he's reliable, a good teacher, and knows his stuff, the school is content to have him around teaching Arcane Knowledge 101.
He's a bit of a joke around campus, an example of academia's mediocrity in many ways, but nobody could ever really say they dislike him. He's a fixture of the school, and has been so for many, many years.
Hence why I want to start him as older than standard. :) In my head, he's Kris Kringle from Miracle on 34th Street (Richard Attenburough), just without the ho ho ho and delivering toys.
edit: as far I know Kitsune abilities are actual true changes not illusions
Perhaps, but I'm leery of giving alter self at will.
Agreed on the playing it up part. Starting in the older age categories for casters just to get the mental boosts is fairly cheesy IMO. I asked because I envision this guy as a classic British professor type (yes, I get that he would be more of a teaching assistant, and that's fine). I also see him as a man who's been engaged in this line of research for a long time, without really getting anywhere, which is why he's still just a teaching assistant instead of a real professor, but as he's reliable, a good teacher, and knows his stuff, the school is content to have him around teaching Arcane Knowledge 101.
He's a bit of a joke around campus, an example of academia's mediocrity in many ways, but nobody could ever really say they dislike him. He's a fixture of the school, and has been so for many, many years.
Hence why I want to start him as older than standard. :) In my head, he's Kris Kringle from Miracle on 34th Street (Richard Attenburough), just without the ho ho ho and delivering toys.
Groovy, so long as we're on the same page. You have been concentrating more on your research and less on your spell casting practice. As such you're really good at low level magic, but have evocatively plateaued... for now. ;-)
edit: as far I know Kitsune abilities are actual true changes not illusionsPerhaps, but I'm leery of giving alter self at will.
If it matters to you fox spirits (kitsune) in Japanese folklore often take human form and sometimes are wives to nobles, have children too, so the original from where the idea comes makes them a proper shapeshifter species, the Pathfinder version can in addition also learn to change into a full fox form that the mythical ones also could do
I wanted the fox form feat but they gave it a +3 BAB requirement so I can't take it at earliest till level 7 unfortunately. It works as is though, he has his one human form and can use the disguise self magic to impersonate others if he needs. That other feat was just too much headache.
Oddly, I can't seem to find another trait that gives stealth as a class skill. Driving me nuts.
Last question, how did you want us to do our hit-points TCG?
Technically she is only half-succubus. So like a Dhampir doesn't need to suck blood, she doesn't need to suck life energy. So no award just yet. :)
Dramen comes from a small 'family' of various law-breakers, ranging from pickpockets to 'protection suppliers' to outright burglars. They don't do these things entirely out of choice, but simply because it's how they survive in their city(Magnimar in Golorian). The Family started as a simple orphanage several decades ago(in Cheliaxia) as a refuge for guttersnipes, street rats, runaways, and regular orphans. They took these children in and taught them a trade. Today the remaining Family does the same thing, more or less.
Dramen himself only has a small idea of what the Family does, and has thus far chosen to ignore it. The locks he has to pick? Part of the puzzle. Getting the bell without a sound? Just a game like any other. What he's really good at, and wants to do, he keeps a secret for fear of being denied the opportunity to learn more.
He's been sent to the Academy to learn more about the strange rune magic his Family ancestors grant him each morning, and to try his skills on new people.
I'm writing up a Azatablooded Aasimar Oracle(Seer) right now. Going with Clouded Vision/Heavens right now.
Here is what I have so far. Background is still being prepared and still finding errors I need to fix (plus general clean up). Hoping to have it done for tomorrow sometime, though but for now though I have to hit the hay what with work in the morning.
Thoughts, comments, and so on very welcome.