The Dark Ones (an evil homebrew experience) (Inactive)

Game Master Bane88

They don't get a stat bonus to damage, and don't get extra accuracy like guns to balance this out,
That's not even getting into their reloading issues, as I think a repeating one fixes those, not sure though, as I've not used them much.

Well they have the longest range, high die, and greater crit range. Throw in the right feats and you become a hellish sniper, not going into the items and magic. Yes the repeating pretty much makes it a gun clip that once loaded only needs to have the lever pulled (free action). You can even duel wield them in the first round, unless you have more then two arms. With three arms you could fire both in the 1st round, then alternate between both until you had to reclip one in the 9th round. With four arms you could duel wield the entire time and reclip both in one round, or if you single wielded would pretty much be a machine gun.

So the is a silent enchantment for guns i believe. Also oil of silence. I reckon a fun assassin/sniper could work and still be stealthy.

Speaking of stronk pc's, i was planning on taking divine protection at 5th. At 8th with a +2 item and vampire boost my Cha will be 30 so +10 to all saves. Does that seem crazy strong?

Its fine HOHW I will adjust enemies as needed.

I want to point out that while some of you have had interaction with the Shadow Syndicate in your backstories, which is fine, I want to point out that it is not really the kind of organization that one "joins" you are recruited and it is such an honor that refusal would be...unwise.

So keep in mind that for however much your character wants or enjoys being a member, you were asked under duress. It's not a bad thing I just want everyone to be clear on the terms of your "employment"

@rieling: I wasn't aware that they had a long range

@HoHW: Not to me
Seems like it fits with a partial caster getting 16.5 average damage per hit, two points of that damage would repeat each round afterwards (no the bleed damage doesn't stack) at level 3 without buffs.
Virgil is very powerful offenceivly
Dryden is a brick wall of defence
This game is high power
I kept that in mind when I built this guy.

@DM: where Virgil used to live he was chased out of town for disecting the populous
If he were to piss off the powers that be (and was aware of it) in his mind he figures he could always run again, perhaps chillex next, or the world wound, maybe start an expidition to find the fabled City of Brass.
Of course he's likely overestimating his ability greatly but that's to be expected of a mad scientist

@TYB

Hey I have a repeating crossbow, if I had the money I would have a heavy version. What about them sucks?

Crossbow, repeating 250 gp DMG1d8 CR 19–20/×2 Range 80 ft. 6 lbs.(Exotic) Ranged Weapons

Range 80 good, DMG good, X2 ok 6lb Yaikes! But dark wood it. so 3lb
But thing is you have to blow a feat to get Proficiency: exotic weapon repeating crossbow, and light and heavy are 2 separate feats Yikes!!. That is unless you have Babilis->Weapon Familiarity->(Exotic) Ranged Weapons->light and heavy repeating crossbows etc. Which dos seem very specific to your PCs needs hehe

But one Feat amateur gun slinger gets you pick of all guns. And RTA's on hits, :)

Rileng, what is a Babilis? I'm sure as soon as you tell me I'll remember but I'm drawing a blank right now.

NVM found it, custom race which is what I guessed.

According to wictionary. It's chatter.

Actually I got the race name from taking apart a word in Latin. I don't like using common words for stuff like that and go off the sound of the word most of the time more then anything. Sometimes it's symbolic but being a part of the word I doubt you would find it's translation.

@LZZ
I picked it for one of my weapon familiarity choices. Also the DM supplied a trait for it so don't have to blow a feat, which personally I always found silly. One class gives you training in dozens upon dozens of weapons but even if you live in a land filled with bastard swords, you still need to take a feat cause even if everyone uses it. You would not be trained in it, but that goblin dogslicer, ratfolk tailblade, and derro syringe spear you know like the back of your hand. xP

Gameplay is up, you can post your initial reactions and don't worry if you want to tweak characters, that is fine as we go along, until we get into the real meat of doing missions and what not.

Cool. Compared to others +10 to saves isn't the worst thing here. Just means I don't need a cloak of resistance and can try something else.

Go for a robe of arcane heritage, or a monk's robe
This would be later of course but those two are very nice.

I think he's saying he'd have an extra +10 on all saves, not just +10 total. So his saves will probably be mid to high teens at that level.

Geez I am going to have to avoid combat whenever it breaks out if everyone is going to be so strong. I'll get one shotted by anything that you guys can't run over in one round.

The only thing I intend to tweak is fluff, mostly adding to it. So yeah DM ammo. xP

Thats the problem with balance in a GM and what the designers of Pathfinder have worked so hard to keep in the rules. You have one or more PC/s with maga Saves/THs/DMGS and the GM ups the bad guys to the point any PC who dos not have the same is toast.

The game then just becomes an arms race.
Some players just waiting for the Hero Crunch moment to show off how they gamed the rules to max power. I If that's what the players and GM are into then fine. But Fluff, not crunch is where the PC lives, power mad Players that put showing off crunch before showing off fluff, kill blance and freer-er forms of game play. Mixed pcs with tagged on fluff to justify muckinisem is not that much fun to play if your after real RPG over rules jockying.

This is just my view. :)

Geez I am going to have to avoid combat whenever it breaks out if everyone is going to be so strong. I'll get one shotted by anything that you guys can't run over in one round.

Keep in mind he's talking about after he becomes a vampire. If you have anything similar I mind, you'll be headed for a big power boost as well.

I'm looking at 3.5 templates because I'm not seeing anything good in standard pathfinder
Unleeeess I could get a single mythic rank... That could maybe work... That or maybe a single mythic feat..

That being said, I don't need a power boost, I'm strong enough as is, and my power is flaverful.

For the record I always make crunch first, but that's more to get a grasp on my idea in the rules. xP

As for his becoming a full fiend goal, that's why I throw in the "unique". So I can build that template myself, they made half demon templates as a variant for half fiends so why can't we. I am just not the chaotic type or overly like any of theirs for Rileng. So he could be as powerful or powerless as needed that way. No hard limit one way or the other that way. ;)

Who's missing,

No one is missing. I count 9 separate people posting so far.

LF2 could you not just reused one of you old Alts for this, having a hard time looking at the Cartoon you and not braking out in chuckles. hehe

I'm sorry but paizo won't let me make another profile for some reason.

Use an old one alt, you have more than a few, t's that simple,
Then change your pcs name to match that alt,
Or make a new account, jib done

You can't change the name after you post ten times
And I still have several other games that use my existing alts
Though if it means that much to you, I'll try to change the pic.
Edit: no, won't let me do that either
I got this message

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No change your pc name on here to Match the alt you have made and can't change name of, then edit crunch to be pc here. Has to be better than a cartoon avatar and having your PC known as yellow boxs

But I'm using those PCs in other games.
That and I like the name Virgil Hass.

Then make a new account and stop complaints old yellow
If you have a gripe with the site talk to the admins.
But you need an alt or your going to bust suspended belief Avery time you post with a stick man called yellow boxs

You're the one complaining.....
And besides as I said, I have several other games...
Nine of them other than this one that are still active

Then you have some dead and i native alts, stick man yellow boxs
At least change your yellow boxes alts avatar to be some thing like your PC in game, the stick man kinds of stands out.

As I said before it won't let me.
Does anyone else actuall care?

Antony Martin
Unused alt, copy him some place , wipe and make your this game PC.

As for locking,
Talk to the site admins,
I think your account may have been partly locked. .
You been upsetting any one of late
You been make rude or copy righted named alts?

@TYB
I would want to find out the problem with your account. That's a big issue, regardless of being able to make new profiles. That's just a side effect of the problem. So you should talk to a admin or something and get that corrected. As for a temporary solution, put in bold your characters name at the top of each post. Cause honestly I have a hard time remembering who you are without an alias. Hope that helps.

And edit your stat line to reflect the character's stats like mine and Lady Zanra's etc.

I sent an email to an administrator,
I will also edit the top line
Edit: is this satisfactory?

How do I edit the stat line? first time doing PbP

Hit edit and put what you want in the lines for gender, race or class

Hit edit and put what you want in the lines for gender, race or class

On my profile? I did that and set the stats and everything, but gender, race, and class level is all that shows up

Do I put it in the "other info" box?

Only the Gender, Race, and Class fields show up, as you observed before. You just need to repurpose one of those fields in order to show the info you want - then you can just plug in your numbers.

HP / | AC (T , FF ) | CMD | F + | R + | W + | Init +| Per +

There we go, thanks!

What a bunch of psychopaths we have here

I was about to ask if anyone saw through my psychopath exterior. She's a complicated individual, Mordren.

What a bunch of psychopaths we have here

No idea what your talking about, now who said you where psychopaths, shame on them.

Virgil is amoral but he's not suffering from an antisocial personality disorder.

Virgil is amoral but he's not suffering from an antisocial personality disorder.

Lady Zanra Zamean has been nothing but polite and well mannered, she has not even killed anyone.

"That man was sick when they brought him in, a beating like that, he could barely stand, any one could see he was having a fit. Poor man dead now, so sad. I feel sorry for his family"

Did you make the concentration check to suppress the display for that power?
The power you use has an auditory display, so unless you succeeded on a concentration check you made a weird noise that those triained in psi craft (or spellcraft if we use transparency) can link the dead man to you.

Gosh LF2, this is a rules light game, Rule of Cool and if the story says its ok. Lets not go get all rullesy now.
Looks at his PCs construct...

But its all within the rules, there should be a sound and so other could have a Spellcraft check BUT for the fact she has concentration at 15. She took 15 15+0 level power is the DC not to show any out would signs,no sound, so no signs of doing any thing, no link, he was sick when he came and dropped dead at her feet. "All coincidence your honour."

PS
You find out why your Account has been partly blocked?
Do's this mean no more alts for games for you?
I wonder if there is a new limit to alt making per account?

If you made the concentration chek on a take ten then never mind you're fine
And besides my construct isn't in the room
Though with his 50 fly speed he should be here soon

And no I haven't found out what's wrong

You always roll concentration checks unless you have some feat/power that says otherwise. You can't take 10 or 20, because that means you tried enough times until you got that result. Which in this case means a single failure exposes you. Unless you meant that her concentration is so high it's pointless to roll because even on a nat 1 she could still beat the DC.

@DM
Something you may want to consider, I have found it fun in other games, is a crit and fumble table. I think it would suit this game. :)

I personally am not a fan of fumbles. Autonatic failures yes thats fine. But critical fails are embarassing and take away from the seriousness of the situation and many times cause the death of a player. They just aren't fun. I've never felt good when rolling a one, it sucks that you failed, I shouldn't have to lose my only weapon or fall prone when I'm at 10 hp.
Thats just my take, if u use them I will still play without complaints.