The Conquest of Ambervale

Game Master Nicos

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Sorry. I'm an indecisive character builder.

Thinking of building a Hunter-like character, sort of a feral shapeshifter kind of guy. That could be fun. Good at tracking, uses natural attacks.

Ooh, good opportunity to play a Skinwalker.

Full BAB + wildshape could work.

Arcanist, Bloodrager, Brawler, and Hunter updated on the document, though I haven't run the usual tests (can the normal class be built 1-20? And especially at 1st?), but they feel about right so far. All class' Defining abilities have been up for a while, but those 4 classes now have Secondary/Tertiary filled in. Don't have Exploits on the list yet, but same as ever: 2 points per.

Proposed class:

Feral Warrior

1st level:

Full BaB: 6
2 Good saves (Fort and Ref): 3
d10 HD: 3
4+Int skills: 1
No weapons: 0
Medium Armor: 2
Mutagen (reflavored as a potent mixture of medicinal plants): 3

Hunter casting, Wis based: 6

24/25

2nd level:

Monster Lore: 1

25/30

3rd level:

Nothing?

25/35

4th level:

2nd level casting: 4
Studied Combat: 5

34/35

5th level:

Bonus Feat: Extra Investigator Talent: Quick Study

36/40

Essentially he's a "one with nature" sort of guy, but he's still cunning and focused, able to take advantage of his enemy's distraction to pounce.

Thinking of being either a Ragebred or Fanglord Skinwalker, maybe go for a bit of an Intimidate build.

Okay, wait, I may take the Savage Technologist's Rage instead of Studied Combat and Mutagen, and pick up some Rage Powers. There's some neat ones for the Ragebred Skinwalker.

Proposed class:

Feral Warrior v2

1st level:

Full BaB: 6
2 Good saves (Fort and Ref): 3
d10 HD: 3
4+Int skills: 1
No weapons: 0
No Armor: 0
Rage (as the Savage Barbarian): 5
Monk Physical Package (replace Flurry with Graceful Grappler and Stunning Fist with Panache)

Hunter casting, Wis based: 6

23/25

2nd level:

Animal Fury Rage Power : 2
Invulnerable Rager DR: 3

28/30

3rd level:

Naked Courage: 1

29/35

4th level:

2nd level casting: 4
Savage Jaw Rage Power: 2

35/35

5th level:

Bonus Feat: Raging Grappler Rage Power

37/40

Feats:

1.) Extra Feature
3.) Power Attack
5.) Improved Grapple

The idea is, basically "Jump on a dude, drag him down, and maul the f#** out of him" like, well, a wild animal. I'll be poisonous at later levels (Hive Totem).

With your approval at later levels I might snag the "3 level dip" of Horizon Walker abilities at 8th so I can start Dimension Dooring around, and pick up the Dimensional Agility line, but not sure.

I...have no idea what that is.

It gives Str/Dex instead of Str/Con.

Can I ask for a teensy houserule to make Skinwalkers less of a headache to use?

Can the stat bonuses they get always be active? As-is, as a Skinwalker, you get +2 to one stat, -2 to another stat, and +2 t a 3rd stat, but only while transformed. It's a pain in the neck and makes no real difference since the transformation lasts forever.

Well... I think I'll make a shield-bashing witch with spell strike. With Scarred Witch I can use Con, so I only need 3 attributes.

Lead Blades works on Natural Attacks, right?

That is strong jaw, I think.

Strong Jaw jumps up two categories, not 1, so I wasn't sure. Lead Blades just says "melee weapons", so I guess technically it works, but it makes a lot of references to dropping weapons and such, so RAI is probably manufactured only.

If you people considerer that you need another +1 to another stat just have it, there is no point in force you play stuff you do not want

THat of course mans one more minion in every fight :)

I'm fine with my stats as-is. All a higher PB would mean to me is I don't have to dump Cha so hard.

My problem with the current attribute progression is that MAD classes really suffer. I know because playing Korak and not being able to raise Wis is painful... Because I need Str/Dex/Con and Wis.

So, is it just me and Lemmy, or are you recruiting for 2 more?

I thought scavion would join but it seems taht was not the case (or he is just to busy at the moment). What would you prefer?

I also thought about doing a kingmaker-like campaing, but you both seems to not be interested in being leaders of any sort. normally with only two Pcs I would create a pool of NPCs so you can choose from them and use them as back up.

Hm. If it's just me and Lemmy, we could either do a sort of Gestalt (twice the build points, or scrap FFCS entirely and do normal Gestalt), or run two PCs each to make up for it.

Of the two, I'd prefer the first option, since running two characters often feels like I'm talking to myself.

As for Recruitment, I've never had very good luck with it myself. Every time I've done a random Recruitment I end up with a ton of garbage applicants, and when I find one I like he leaves after a few posts.

I also thought about doing a kingmaker-like campaing, but you both seems to not be interested in being leaders of any sort. normally with only two Pcs I would create a pool of NPCs so you can choose from them and use them as back up.

I thought that's what we WERE doing?

The pool of NPCs can patch our little dilemma, you can use then in your quest.

Dirty DMPCS! I can hear you, but it woudl not be, it woudl be more like cohorts.

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About the kingmaker-like stuff. What role woudl you want?, as I said you can start from a simple soldier, militia captain, temple leader or the temporal ruler of the town, etc, your choise.

The problem I have with Cohorts is I'm not in control of them. =p

Plus it puts a lot more work on you. Essentially you're controlling two other PCs, in addition to all the other NPCs. Most of your posts will be twice as long (or you'll have to post twice as frequently) as a result.

As for role...I have no clue. I guess the problem with my chosen character is he doesn't fit well into a normal leadership role. He's good as a Ranger, of sorts, or part of a group of Irregulars, but not as a regular soldier, and certainly none of the other 3 examples.

I suppose this would be a good time to learn more about the area?

The way I was thinking is to NPC them out of combat but the players control them in combat. I just prefer to avoid recruitment :/

The area is basically, a big town, a small town that is under the control of the big one, another small town that is basically independent, and the rest is forests, moutains, caves.

I was talking more detail, sorta. Like, what organizations are active in the area, that sort of thing.

As for recruitment, I could ask around with some people I play with. Cube might be interested.

I have to go out at the moment but there would be a town guard, a church of some good deity, a troop of guys patroling the forest, there are witches living here and there in the wilderness, there is a keep populated by goblins (somewhat allied with the PC's town).

stuff are not set in stone though, if you have a good idea it can be incorporated.

It would also be great if you can think of a couple of NPCS your PCs already know. Like a friend, family, master, apprentice, lover, enemy, whatever, it would help to flesh out your PCs and to give me ideas for future plots.

Human seems to post quite often. We could call him... I don't really like having cohorts, GM-controlled cohorts even less so.

Cube is on board if you'll have him, he wants to make a Swashbuckler type of guy.

Gark/Human said he didn't want to join another game already.

Bring cube here then.

He's working on his guy, dunno when he'll want to pop in the thread but he's close to done-ish.

Heyo. I'll have my alias ready in a moment.

Ta-da!

I'll travel to visit my father tomorrow... Well, today, actually... It's already past midnight.

I don't know when I'll be able to post. Start the game without me, I'll join you later when I have a character.

I was forgeting to tell that weapon specific feat now work for the entire weapon group. FOr example WF (longsword) becomes WF(heavy blades)

Ta-da!

Hi.

It would be great a level by level progresion of youar abilities to see how many class points are still unspent and and what level are you taking the calss abilities. As a first glance, as you are cha focused you probably want divine grace.

Here's a spreadsheet I'm using to keep track of points. (Warning: Kind of ugly)
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1bwLjShlyirB5awblQwDo1QAW6a25zh12dci JoSpaPYY/edit#gid=0

I guess I could give up Studied Combat and Quick Study, but I want some way to boost my attack rolls if possible.

It seems all alright, as soon as you have the background/motivation we can start with the story for your PC, you have a lot of freedom in that regard.

While there will be multiple plots for you guys to choose from, it will be great if your PC have some sort of long term motivationS/goals

I'll try to finish that later tonight

As long as being a ranger or something doesn't throw anything off, that would be the role my guy has in town. Lives in the woods for the most part, keeps to himself, patrols the woods and such for threats and takes care of them where able.

Not sure on long term goals, really.

Will he be a loner or operate in a group?

Will he be a loner or operate in a group?

And, as a independent or working for the city?

And it does not have to be a ong term goal, just keeping the forest safe for the others, just for example, would be Ok.

Desmond was born into a family of blacksmiths. He despised the dull monotony of the family trade and, against his father's wishes, began practicing swordfighting.

One night, he stole the most valuable weapon in his father's armory and ran away to become a mercenary. He spent the next few years sharpening his skills, developing his own unique fighting style that revolved around using taunts and quips to distract his opponents.

His only goal is to be heralded as the world's greatest, and most charming, hero.

Cool. A final question, Would he be a newcomer to the town or have already made some connections?

He's new in town.

EDIT: He's looking for work and a chance to build his fame. He's ok with working with other people, as long as they don't make him look bad.

Nicos wrote:

Will he be a loner or operate in a group?

And, as a independent or working for the city?

And it does not have to be a ong term goal, just keeping the forest safe for the others, just for example, would be Ok.

He's mostly a loner, but not averse to working with other people. He just figures that usually he moves faster and quieter alone, and enjoys his solitude in nature regardless.

But he does do it for the city, for practicality if nothing else. If he was going to do it anyway, may as well get paid for it, eh?

I think this will be the final version.

Not sure what the savage barbarian rage does. Also, consider aspect of the beast feat from the ranger natural combat style.

I added a map, the only diferenceis that our town have a defensive wall.

Savage Barbarian Rage is Str/Dex instead of Str/Con.

And I completely forgot about Aspect of the Beast, I had meant to take that. Though, I have Claws from the Abyssal thing already. Hrm.

I think I'll take that at 6th or 7th. I already have a Gore and 2 Hooves all the time, plus 2 Claws and a Bite in Rage.