THE LEAGUE OF EXTRAORDINARY PERSONS (Inactive)

Game Master Johnny-Panic

Illness means I must stop using computers, I am sorry.


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The league of extraordinary Persons.

The year is 2007 its the boom times, unemployment is low, how prices are high, Shares are doing well and the USA is hurt from 9/11 but still on top of world. You life is simple, keep your head down, get on with what you doing and no one will suspect you your not the same as these around you. Then one day out of the blue comes a letter and an air ticket to London England.

Dear Sir or Madam.

You do know know me but my name is Lady Rosa Luminass, I believe I have an opportunity that may be of great interest to you. Included with this letter are return air tickets to London 1st class and a reservation for three nights at a 5 star hotel. Once there you will be contacted, if you feel you this is not to your interest please feel free to sell the ticket and reservation. But Believe me when I say, a meeting with myself will be to your great benefit.

looking in the letter you do find tickets to London a reservation for three nights and the Queen Ann Hotel close to Greenwich. The postal stamp on the letter shows it was posted in London a few weeks ago.
If you look up Lady Rosa Luminass on the internet you find no images, but some pages and references to her late husband Lord Timmy Luminass who went missing 3 years ago while working for an old company in the Congo. They had no children and she inhered is estate.

Character Generation:

STATS: 23 point buy or roll 4d6x7 drop one roll set and lowest die per set, your call.
RACES: Every one who wants to be in the league of extraordinary Persons, started as Human. Place on earth where you came from it up to you.
+2 one stat, +1 feat at 1st level.No race builder (sorry) if you want to be something other than human use a template, bad news is if you are NOT human you better have a way to fit in and the locals or don't run or shoot you. Even better the government may notice you and then, dissection time!!!.
LINIMENT: ANY (yes you can be Evil, but to evil and your going to stand out. Getting court breaking laws bad.
TEMPLATES: Only one template
LEVEL: Then you have 7 levels to spend, on Templates and Levels.
HP: Max HP per level (you will need it)
CLASSES: All of Paizo and most 3PP is open to you, this will be the core of your PC, why they are an extraordinary Person.
GUNS: Yes lots, modern, of them but is the real world, get court with a gun on a plane and, well you get the idea.
TECH: As world 2007
AGE: The oldest you can be is 8000 years old, China, Egypt etc are open to you. But you dont have higher skills or stats with age.
Traits:
3 + 1 more with a draw back but be warned I WILL make you play your drawback.
STARTING CASH: Roll 3d10 x5000$ savings, so you could have wealth or you could be poor.
OCCUPATION: What do you do to live, I may change you cash to reflect you day job. But not the richer more public your are the more others will notice you. A Tramp or cleaner now, who's going to notice them.
WHAT MAGUFFIN: Name and describe one item, bit of knowledge or event you wish to happen.
CONTACTS: List 2 contacts you have, name, location and relationship.
ENEMY: List one Enemy you have made, Name, location and why they are now your enemy.

I am playing in 4 games but they have slowed to a near stop now, so I wanted to have my own game that a playing speed I liked. Post wise if you cant post 1 once very 2 days min, I am looking to 7 players, because 1 to 2 always drop in the 1st mouth or so. I want you to make a CP you wish to play, one that you like.


PC FORMAT LIKE THIS PLEASE:

[__spoiler=Advancement Choices]
1st: class (archetype);
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Sex Race (Nationality) Class (Archetype) 1 Age

LN Medium Type (Subtype)

Init +; Senses ; Perception +

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DEFENSE
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AC 1, touch 1, flat-footed 1 (+ dex, + armor)

HP (1d+)

Fort +, Ref +, Will +

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OFFENSE
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Speed 30 ft.

Melee

Ranged

Space 5 ft., Reach 5 ft.

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SPECIAL ABILITIES
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STATISTICS
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Str , Dex , Con , Int , Wis , Cha

Base Atk +; CMB + (misc mods); CMD

Traits:

Trait name -

Feats:
Feat Name

Skills (X Points - 1 class, 1 race, etc):
Acrobatics +4 (1 rank, 4 dex, -1 ACP)

Favored Class:

Racial Modifiers:

Languages:

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GEAR/POSSESSIONS
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Location: On Persons
Carrying Capacity Light: lbs. Medium: lbs. Heavy: lbs.

Money: GP SP CP

Total Weight: lbs.

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[__spoiler=Background]

[__/spoiler]

Description
Ht: ' "
Wt: lbs
Age:
Hair:
Eyes:
Skin:

Description here....

Can you have your PC format like this please.
Make an ALT BUT POST A LINK HERE>


This game will be very dark with Adult themes.
Cussing will be allowed but like this only

"You Mother F****g sick son of a B**h!!!"

I wan't this game to be grown up but NOT brake the rules of the boards.

Graphic violence to Children and woman will be implied only!!, there will be no detailed descriptions of gore or other such thinks. It will simply be taken as given.

The room was shocking to look at, there has been a whole wedding party here, 60 people plus, now all that was left of them was on the walls and floor. What ever had done this had done it like a bomb blast, but this not the resort of a bomb, because they could all see the footprints in the blood. Large and clawed."

If that's to much for you then this is not the game for you.


M]ost interesting. Areyou allowing the playtest occult characters?
I have a few ideas but first the stats

4d6 ⇒ (5, 4, 1, 3) = 13
4d6 ⇒ (3, 2, 2, 1) = 8
4d6 ⇒ (6, 2, 4, 6) = 18
4d6 ⇒ (5, 4, 3, 6) = 18
4d6 ⇒ (3, 4, 2, 1) = 10
4d6 ⇒ (3, 3, 4, 5) = 15
4d6 ⇒ (4, 6, 2, 1) = 13


So
12
16
15
9
12
12

certainly workable. Let me get back to you.


dotting, always wanted to play a fey gunslinger. let me see what I can put together

4d6 ⇒ (5, 6, 3, 3) = 17 14
4d6 ⇒ (4, 6, 4, 1) = 15 14
4d6 ⇒ (5, 5, 3, 4) = 17 14
4d6 ⇒ (3, 5, 1, 3) = 12 11
4d6 ⇒ (1, 2, 6, 6) = 15 14
4d6 ⇒ (6, 2, 5, 6) = 19 17
4d6 ⇒ (2, 5, 2, 2) = 119

so 14, 14, 14, 11, 14, 17, which is a 34 point buy, HHMM, need to plan a little

how long will you keep recruitment open for?

while were at it 3d10 ⇒ (5, 8, 8) = 21 x 5,000 = 105,000


I think I will keep this Open till Dec 12th


GM Pandorica: What is your opinion on “Rogue Genius Games” specifically “Godlings" (There are four subclasses of godling—adept, clever, eldritch, and mighty, )


I like godlings, they are a good class, But note at high levels they suffer, As they are a kind of Mythic, I want to know how your PC got the GOD part of godling in them, also I want to see the build, I have broken this class myself so know it can be done.


GM Pandorica wrote:

This game will be very dark with Adult themes.

Cussing will be allowed but like this only

"You Mother F****g sick son of a B**h!!!"

I wan't this game to be grown up but NOT brake the rules of the boards.

Graphic violence to Children and women will be implied only!!

Dude. What the actual f#&%.


now that I relook at the material I would probably be more likely to do godling, prestige class. one level template fey, at least five gunslinger then possibly godling. would do the back story Greece circa 1,000 BC child of an archetypal Greek myth. still a lot of loose ends to work on, obviously

Do you mind more than one archetype?

GM Pandorica wrote:


+2 one stat, +1 feat at 1st level.No race builder

is that on top of regular human race features or are you reiterating human race features?

Shadow Lodge

Hey Jonny.
This sounds kinda awesome
I'm thinking of either a magus or an alchemist, I'm leaning on alchemist though, definitely an alchemist, got an idea
what's your stance on +0 templates
Im thinking for profession, R&D for a large chemical firm, maybe Monsanto.
That or maybe a weapons company, still R&D though.
There are generally one of two reasons someone wants to hire the guy, either they want him to build something, or they want him to blow it the f$&@ up

His maguffin, unless I can think of something better will probably be his signature weapon.
he calls it "the solution" as in this will solve any problem that he needs it to
It can load and fire a variety of specialized ammunition flavor text for a gun to fire the bombs and other alchemical weaponry from my grenadier alchemist class features
Class levels, alchemist (grenadier) 6/gunslinger 1
He will have the infusion discovery, so he can act as party healer in a pinch, but a party can never have too much healing.

Shadow Lodge

Would you allow the Eternal template from Super Genius Guides to still gain class levels?

Shadow Lodge

Can we use weapons from pathfinder d20 modern?
Specifically I want HK G3 7.62mm Assault Rifle 2d10 damage 19-20 x4 critical range Piercing damage type 300 ft. Range increments 20 box (shots the gun will hold) Two handed 11 lb. $925 ($=GP)

If you're worried about game balance I wouldn't mind doubling the cost,
He'll say "it's a nearly unique model, a discontinued prototype, only twenty of them still exisf in the world, too costly they said, the fools, this here is the future of warfare, of law enforcement, possibly even personal defence"

A taser would also be nice (yes at this level it'd be worthless but it'd be in character so if doesn't matter too much if it's weak)


I'm not worried about cost, I'm worried the 1st time you pull that out in a city, you will be shot dead by the cops, think for a moment, do you really want to base your PC around guns that you may not be able to use most of the game, I'm also going to be using an add on system where high powers gun rounds keep going, you shoot them in a shopping center, your going to end up on the news with a high body count. Use your head, think, how do I not get my self killed by doing something dumb in public.


Ok I'm thinking of an arcanist 7, or a witch 7, with no template. I am leaning towards the witch, but the familiar would be a real issue, especially moving from nation to nation with quarantine laws. A bit of a issue. Let me work on it.


I have a few ideas. Call me a nostalgic but I just loved the movie.
4d6 ⇒ (4, 5, 3, 2) = 14 12
4d6 ⇒ (2, 3, 2, 2) = 9 7
4d6 ⇒ (4, 3, 4, 4) = 15 12
4d6 ⇒ (6, 6, 2, 6) = 20 18
4d6 ⇒ (6, 6, 1, 6) = 19 18
4d6 ⇒ (5, 4, 4, 1) = 14 13
Workable.


Helikon, roll one more, he's allowing 7 roll of 4d6, drop lowest dice and lowest role (maybe loose the 7) :)


Please can you place Links to things if you wish me to look at them.

Rule of Thum, if its on http://www.d20pfsrd.com/ I can see it and work with it, any splat books that are not on there or 3.5 cross overs you think will be ok, LF2 no sorry.

http://www.d20pfsrd.com/

or not at all, and link to every thing on your sheet, Spells powers etc, if I am hunting for things with my time, I am not DMing with my time.

SO use the format, and place links do I know what you have and how it works.


Logan Holt:

Eternal (Su)

An eternal creature cannot be permanently killed or destroyed. If killed, turned into an undead, polymorphed, petrified, burned, or otherwise destroyed, it returns to life and normal well-being 2d6 minutes later (even if disintegrated), gaining benefits similar to a true resurrection coupled with a heal. If the location of its body has become hazardous enough to kill it instantly, when the immortal creature returns to life it teleports to the closest safe space. Eternal creatures do not age, eat, sleep, or need to breathe, and they are immune to magic versions of those effects.

The downside of being immortal is an inability to grow and change. The eternal creature never gains any levels or Hit Dice. The effects of being eternal cannot be overcome with even a wish spell. Unless the eternal creature has a special weakness (see above), only the direct intervention of a deity can overcome the eternal status.

So in a nutshell you can start as a level 5 PC who gained the eternal template but you will NEVER get a level after that, and I do expect players to get levels fast, so your going to be unkillable but unlevelable as well.

You can start at that but you will always be that, this may be cool in game as it death could be what your PC is looking for, or and end to being Eternal.

So I will allow you to take Eternal BUT any other levels must be NPC levels.


Lord Foul II wrote:


Im thinking for profession, R&D for a large chemical firm, maybe Monsanto.

OK I need to make this clear, None of the picked players will be linked to any government or transnational organisation, you have lived by keeping a low profile, you may in the past have been linked to a government but say 400 years ago, but in the moden age of the internet mass media and cell phones, being and odd ball or sticking out gets you one thing fast and that is dead. You all know of others like you, others who where not the same as humans, every now and then you meet one.

They call it the undercultur, a bar here, a place there, you hear of the ones that got NOTICED and how they ended. Like Bigfoot, they say that guy was a changer, now his heads of some Texas old guys wall. For there are collects who hunt things like you. That and governments, o they have all manner of departments they like your kind.

Gods, are there are gods, well god like beings from other planes, once long ago some even walked the earth and tryed to play gods. But that went bad real fast, now there is an unwritten rule,
"Any god that messes with the world directly will get its ass kicked buy the other gods." If you think that is made up, ask any one now if they warship Oden or Set, gods who over stepped the mark and paid the price. No gods can only mess with earth by using Proxys, suckers to dumb or to wasted to know they have a gods hand up their Back side.
So you can be and old school cleric from the crusades. Just dont go god boding to much.

Other plans, o there are loads of them, but the seem to be powered by faith. Some now are little more than shadows, some are the same place just seen from two faiths, to two places form the same faith.

There are the dream worlds, shadow worlds, Fey worlds, Heavens and hells, Its a rich and fertile land just our side of reality but be very careful, not every thing is as it seems.

Shadow Lodge

GM Pandorica wrote:
I'm not worried about cost, I'm worried the 1st time you pull that out in a city, you will be shot dead by the cops, think for a moment, do you really want to base your PC around guns that you may not be able to use most of the game, I'm also going to be using an add on system where high powers gun rounds keep going, you shoot them in a shopping center, your going to end up on the news with a high body count. Use your head, think, how do I not get my self killed by doing something dumb in public.

phoo, hmm,

Well for one it has a range increment of 300ft and can hit touch within the first 5 and I can buy a silencer
But perhaps a pair of glock 20s would be better (maybe the explosives are fairly small but incredibly potent)
But really the cops will be on us no matter the gun size, killing people is illegal whether you you use a cannon or a pointy stick.

Edit: just read a later post
Crap you do realize that the paizo "modern" guns on the PFSRD site were guns of the WW2 era no 2007 era.
Any of those guns would be an antique.
I'd be better off mechanically speaking with a sword.


What is your opinion of Kobold Press? I am particularly interested in the Coilgunner from the New Paths Companion.


I remember A miss Rosa I thing she was my PE teacher....

I have an idea I am working on. Gestalt? or no...


Lets see what I get.

4d6 ⇒ (4, 2, 3, 6) = 15 13
4d6 ⇒ (5, 6, 1, 5) = 17 16
4d6 ⇒ (6, 2, 4, 5) = 17 15
4d6 ⇒ (2, 4, 3, 2) = 11 9
4d6 ⇒ (3, 2, 5, 2) = 12 10
4d6 ⇒ (6, 3, 5, 5) = 19 16
4d6 ⇒ (4, 2, 4, 6) = 16 14
30 point buy lets see what I can come up with.

3d10 ⇒ (1, 4, 10) = 15


guess I'll roll first for luck but I really want to finalize the story first. I think it will involve Mexican drug cartel's Colombian Mafia, and Brazilian crime lords, and CIA operatives and maybe a touch of Cuban revolutionaries

So yeah, my character will have guns.

4d6 ⇒ (5, 3, 3, 4) = 15 = 12
4d6 ⇒ (4, 1, 4, 1) = 10 = 9
4d6 ⇒ (6, 6, 5, 5) = 22 = 17
4d6 ⇒ (5, 6, 3, 4) = 18 = 15
4d6 ⇒ (3, 2, 5, 1) = 11 = 10
4d6 ⇒ (2, 5, 2, 1) = 10 = 9
4d6 ⇒ (4, 2, 1, 6) = 13 = 12

ok that is weird: a 23 point buy

or I can use a....23 point buy.

Shadow Lodge

As to him not being be able to be a legit weapons contractor or working for Monsanto because that would have too much of a government connection and to much in the spotlight... Hmm I he can get a +0 template like celestial, fiendish, terror etc, he could be older then he looks, and then he could have once been a big wig R&D boss, but after an experiment with extra planar energies was to use as an alternate energy source he was... Altered, and had to go underground.
Hmm what job could he have then... Hmm he could be some kind of criminal... Perhaps a hitman...
That or he could be a stock market wiz, and make weapons in his spare time, that would be simpler.


Is this using d20 modern?


Dotting for interest. Sounds like an interesting campaign idea. A question regarding Templates; many of the Templates scale with levels, and become tricky to manage at level 7 specifically. For instance 1-5 HD is a +1 Template, 6-10 HD a +2, and 11+ HD a +3 Template. Therefore, you can make a CR 6 character (Level 5 with a +1 Template), or a CR 8 character (Level 6 with a +2 Template), but a Level 7 character is not actually doable if you want such a template. Any suggestions on how to handle such an issue?


Dot! Here is my idea for a character

I am thinking about a wide-travelling, free lance photographer with the fey template, so a fey-tographer. Originating from Brittany France, I'll take all levels in fey and druid (menhir savant). I am really excited about combing this template and archetype in a modern context!

I figure a really good way to remain invisible in the modern age of instant images is to be the one taking all the pictures. The life of a free lancer also lets one stay on the move and to avoid any lasting connection with corporations or governments.

Anyway, my character is most definitely going to be many thousands of years old, and probably has contacts including fey back among the menhir of Brittany and among the free lance crowd.
Question: there are humans who hunt our kind. Is there the occasional human who might be an unlikely ally? That would make for an interesting contact, so I'm just asking. :)

Anyway, so let's roll, and see if I'm going for the 23 pt. buy or something else!

4d6 ⇒ (1, 6, 1, 6) = 14 13

4d6 ⇒ (4, 4, 5, 4) = 17 13

4d6 ⇒ (6, 2, 1, 1) = 10 9

4d6 ⇒ (1, 6, 2, 5) = 14 13

4d6 ⇒ (2, 2, 2, 3) = 9 7

4d6 ⇒ (1, 4, 6, 3) = 14 13

4d6 ⇒ (6, 4, 3, 1) = 14 13

Wow. Lucky number 13.
Hmmm... 14 pt. buy or 23... Yeah, I'll take the 23 if I may!


Wanted to see how you feel about the Mighty Godling. Was thinking of playing like a Hercules type that has been around from ancient Greece. Let me know. Thanks.


@LF2, What I want to stop is a player have more resource at their disposal than other players, and a Get out of jail free cards form back ground or contacts, we know each other and you know what I mean, I want you to check all numbers and not work angles

@Ashe. we have a player going godling and ancient Greece, by all means apply with the same idea but I will only take one player with that background


Stat Rolls:

4d6 ⇒ (3, 5, 4, 6) = 18 = 15
4d6 ⇒ (2, 5, 6, 5) = 18 = 16
4d6 ⇒ (5, 4, 2, 3) = 14 = 12
4d6 ⇒ (3, 2, 3, 4) = 12 = 10
4d6 ⇒ (6, 5, 5, 2) = 18 = 16
4d6 ⇒ (5, 2, 6, 6) = 19 = 17
4d6 ⇒ (4, 4, 6, 6) = 20 = 16

In an modern, Urban Fantasy type setting, there is an awful lot of interesting characters and classical story Achetypes to draw on, particularly with access to Templates to make it work...

At present, I am thinking about some sort of a monk type, much older than he appears, due to long years in seclusion and his mastery of meditation.

There are so many options though, that we will just have to see what comes out once I start playing with possibilities.


I see, I didn't look at other submissions. Perhaps and Aegis then.

4d6 ⇒ (5, 5, 4, 4) = 18
4d6 ⇒ (5, 5, 3, 1) = 14
4d6 ⇒ (6, 6, 5, 4) = 21
4d6 ⇒ (2, 4, 1, 5) = 12
4d6 ⇒ (3, 4, 3, 4) = 14
4d6 ⇒ (3, 1, 2, 6) = 12
4d6 ⇒ (1, 1, 6, 5) = 13

17, 14, 13, 12, 11, 11

3d10 ⇒ (10, 3, 9) = 22


Is retraining of feats allowed?


why would you need to worry about retraining of feats?

just curious is all...

also I am not so sure I am liking the direction this game seems to be heading...i am not a mega power gamer looking to create the single most powerful PC I can...

this may not be the game for me.


Feats the have a BAB prereq of +6 like Vital Strike, with a +1 template you would only have a +6BAB. Ended up not mattering for what I went for, but still worth knowing.


FangDragon wrote:
Is this using d20 modern?

Once again

IF YOUR GOING TO TALK ABOUT IT LINK TO IT.

[ url=www.What the smeg I a talking to you about GM.org ] LINK HERE NICE GM[/url ]

Or in this case
http://www.d20modernpf.com/

Yes but a blended system, that uses some of the d20moder stuff but not classes for PCs.

1: http://www.d20modernpf.com/wealth-and-equipment/armor COST AS STATED

2: http://www.d20modernpf.com/wealth-and-equipment/weapons At the cost stated if your PC is from the USA, other places they it may cost a lot more.

3: http://www.d20modernpf.com/wealth-and-equipment/general-equipment COST AS STATED

4: http://www.d20modernpf.com/characters/talents YOU MAY USE ONE FEAT TO PICK ONE TALENT, ONCE ONLY AT 1ST LEVEL AND ONCE ONLY.

This is so we don't have to use http://www.d20pfsrd.com/equipment---final/weapons/firearms/modern-firearms, as the names [WW1 stuff really!!] suck, I don't want to spend a load of time working out new ame mechanics,. Lets use what is out there and blend it with brains. Yes a Birret light 50 has a kill range of 2km and dos around 6d10 DMG but lets make it so you have a chance to live, see hero points.

Technological STUFF or SIFI stuff, NOPE, no cyber kit of laser fricking sharks

MAGIC/PSIONIC ITEMS
Every player can start with 1 Magic or Psionic item and no more.
If your a Spell books user, your spell book IS you magic item, if your a Divine caster your Holy Symbol and focus IS your magic item. NO item not even black blades are locked to a PC, you can and may lose them, same with Familiars, and Psicyatals, getting them back will be a lot harder then you think.

COST OF MAGIC AND PSIONIC ITEMS
1Gold = $20 so thats 20x the price as listed.

"HERO POINTS"
http://www.d20pfsrd.com/gamemastering/other-rules/hero-points
YES my dear players, in a world full of nukes, head shot kills with Barret light 50', CCTV and the MEDIA, your are going to need a little bit of luck [Narrative Magic] to save your BUTTS, from the evil GM.Sso we will be using the HERO points sub rule set, so you have a "Save my a&& when the bomb go's off" time. You can take feats, spells and items to bust you HERO POINTS, but remember I like so very very much to make you spend them. MOUUUHAHAHAAHAH


My problem is that for some reason, my favorite 3pp is not really covered by the srd.


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yep that is a problem, but not I suspect and insurmountable one, given there is other stuff to pick from.

ALSO DON'T FORGET FORMATTING OF YOUR ALIAS, MAKE ON AND LINK TO IT ON HERE, DO NOT POST ON HERE UNDER THAT ALIAS.

FORMATTING FOR ALIAS's HERE:

[__spoiler=Advancement Choices]
1st: class (archetype);
[__/spoiler]

Sex Race (Nationality) Class (Archetype) 1 Age

LN Medium Type (Subtype)

Init +; Senses ; Perception +

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DEFENSE
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AC 1, touch 1, flat-footed 1 (+ dex, + armor)

HP (1d+)

Fort +, Ref +, Will +

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OFFENSE
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Speed 30 ft.

Melee

Ranged

Space 5 ft., Reach 5 ft.

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SPECIAL ABILITIES
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STATISTICS
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Str , Dex , Con , Int , Wis , Cha

Base Atk +; CMB + (misc mods); CMD

Traits:

Trait name -

Feats:
Feat Name

Skills (X Points - 1 class, 1 race, etc):
Acrobatics +4 (1 rank, 4 dex, -1 ACP)

Favored Class:

Racial Modifiers:

Languages:

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GEAR/POSSESSIONS
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Location: On Persons
Carrying Capacity Light: lbs. Medium: lbs. Heavy: lbs.

Money: GP SP CP

Total Weight: lbs.

===================================================
[__spoiler=Background]

[__/spoiler]

Description
Ht: ' "
Wt: lbs
Age:
Hair:
Eyes:
Skin:

Description here....

have a look at to see how it is done right,

Lady Gabrielle
or
Cornelius Zenareen

I want to see clearly where every number, ability and item comes from, lots of links. This saves a GM so much time before game and during. I will not consider any PC not formatted right.


Rigor Rictus wrote:
Dotting for interest. Sounds like an interesting campaign idea. A question regarding Templates; many of the Templates scale with levels, and become tricky to manage at level 7 specifically. For instance 1-5 HD is a +1 Template, 6-10 HD a +2, and 11+ HD a +3 Template. Therefore, you can make a CR 6 character (Level 5 with a +1 Template), or a CR 8 character (Level 6 with a +2 Template), but a Level 7 character is not actually doable if you want such a template. Any suggestions on how to handle such an issue?

I am playing it that the Template CR counts as a Level and HD.

So you can't have a PC level 20 PC with a template level +3 as this would in fact make them Epic, at 23 HD

Your MAX at level 17 as you get 3HD in the template.

So when dos the CR levels kick in, well when they say they do.

For instance 1-5 HD is a +1 Template, 6-10 HD a +2, and 11+ HD a +3 Template.

if you start with a Template level you have

1st HD1 Template CR1
2ed HD2 CL1 Class
3ed HD3 CL2 Class
4th HD4 CL3 Class
5th HD5 CL4 Class
6th HD6 CL5 Class
7th HD7 CL5 Clsss [Template CR2 [Must take as it linked to the Template]

NOTE: Some templates have CL for set as HD for Template Spell-Like Abilities, that is fine and is not linked to CL for class/s
Remember there are traits and feats that rise you CL/ML to her HD level.

So with a template level you get a count of one more HD, but just no hit-points [harsh I know but there you are, its a template, you get other stuff. Muukay

NOTE: Templaes like http://www.d20pfsrd.com/bestiary/monster-listings/templates/half-celestial that give you stuff as you rise in that temple, you get from HD, not class+CR so you get then for the whole levels you have.

At 7th level you would get

Spell-Like Abilities
A half-celestial with an Int or Wis score of 8 or higher has a cumulative number of spell-like abilities depending on its Hit Dice. Unless otherwise noted, an ability is usable once per day. Caster level equals the creature's HD (or the caster level of the base creature's spell-like abilities, whichever is higher).

HD Abilities
1–2 Protection from evil 3/day, bless
3–4 Aid, detect evil
5–6 Cure serious wounds, neutralize poison
7–8 Holy smite, remove disease

As have 7HD.


Lord Foul II wrote:


Edit: just read a later post
Crap you do realize that the paizo "modern" guns on the PFSRD site were guns of the WW2 era no 2007 era.
Any of those guns would be an antique.
I'd be better off mechanically speaking with a sword.

Agreed See above post


Nohwear wrote:
What is your opinion of Kobold Press? I am particularly interested in the Coilgunner from the New Paths Companion.

Link please, no link no look.


Edward Sobel wrote:

I remember A miss Rosa I thing she was my PE teacher....

I have an idea I am working on. Gestalt? or no...

Hi Edward, O and she remembers you, all this is coming from a Book I am working on, that has Rosa as the central character, Rosa is lived many lives, been in more than one form. You meet one form, she has had others.

Some Heroic some tragic, she is saint and sinner, hero and villain, Rosa is complicated.

Gestalt no, I want each PC to have a tight fouces not a cover all do all, they need to need each other. If a single PC has so much power it can do the game on its own then its not going to be fun for the others.

So think, why is your PC AN EXTRAORDINARY PERSON. The one thing that makes them no fit in with the world of the normal.

This is not a DC or MARVEL world, where suppers fly around and get to act like adolescent and petulant kids. This is a grown up world, if you look like someone who can make someone with real power rich or more powerful, they WILL hunt you down and ether try to use you or destroy you so they can sleep well at night.

If such DC or MARVEL ever existed they would not last long. This the real world where Superman was found as a kid and killed, bits off him would no be sitting in labs being tested. Batman would have been exposed during a take over of his company by his staff, selling him out and writing books about the nut case. Spider man would have dead of radiation poisoning, his family suing star labs for billions.

But this is not that world, DC or MARVEL are just comics and super's are not real. How ever things that go bump in the dark are, you know, because your one such thing.

Shadow Lodge

What's your policy with plus zero templates that Donny become +1 templates when you're higher level
As to the job thing, cool. I don't think an R&D guy with little to no political leanings would have many, if any "get out of jail free cards"
My character could be one of the people who believe that, because they live in a democratic republic/representative democracy they don't don't have to fear the police or government so long as they keep their noses clean
To be fair, guys like that are usually (but not always) right.

Does anyone else's character have any healing capacity besides mine?

Phooie about the no gestalt, not that I expected it or that my guy needed it but still
If we were using gestalt he'd be an alchemist/gunslinger and I love that combo, but a one level dip in gunslinger works, though it does mean I need to have only the one gun.


The Dragon wrote:
GM Pandorica wrote:

This game will be very dark with Adult themes.

Cussing will be allowed but like this only

"You Mother F****g sick son of a B**h!!!"

I wan't this game to be grown up but NOT brake the rules of the boards.

Graphic violence to Children and women will be implied only!!

Dude. What the actual f!#%.

If a monster has attacked a late night train, you walk on and every one on it, man woman and child is dead. That is about all your going to get. I don;t want graphic description's and I will not be giving them.

Doe cussing, this is an adult game, NPCs will react like real humans do. so you pull out a sword in public and your going to hear.

"OMG" and "WHAT THE F&&& DO YOU THINK YOUR DOING!!"

you get the idea, but the boards have rules and I like them, so we imply only, same gos with DRUG use,

The dug dealer was standing there, a bag of gear in his hand. I went over and showed him the Photo, asked him if he had seen the woman and man in it. He should his head but asked me if I wanted to buy, I said no. "That stuffs for the weak minded and I ant weak, you keep it, knock ya self out"

You get the idea.

:)


Lord Foul II wrote:

What's your policy with plus zero templates that Donny become +1 templates when you're higher level

not clear on what you mean?


Ashe wrote:
Is retraining of feats allowed?

Illustrate what retraining you mean Ashe, you taking more than one class and there is overlap?

Shadow Lodge

First off I meant to say don't instead of Donny
Very mild dyslexia, typing on a mobile phone (with me if I stare at it long enough I usually don't screw up)
Second, I mean can we take a +0 template without spending levels

Follow up question, can we take a -1 template like "drunk" or "young" and take an extra level?


Suthuri wrote:

I am thinking about a wide-travelling, free lance photographer with the fey template, so a fey-tographer. Originating from Brittany France, I'll take all levels in fey and druid (menhir savant). I am really excited about combing this template and archetype in a modern context! I figure a really good way to remain invisible in the modern age of instant images is to be the one taking all the pictures. The life of a free lancer also lets one stay on the move and to avoid any lasting connection with corporations or governments. Anyway, my character is most definitely going to be many thousands of years old, and probably has contacts including fey back among the menhir of Brittany and among the free lance crowd.

I like that idea and its kind of what I am looking for.

Suthuri wrote:
Question: there are humans who hunt our kind. Is there the occasional human who might be an unlikely ally? That would make for an interesting contact, so I'm just asking. :)

Yes to both, who and what they are, well.

Some background INFO

Faiths
A large number of faiths are known to have groups with in them that, look for the Dammed or Gifted, take your pick. Some to use, some to hunt and kill, some for other darker things. As the gods MUST use proxy's there is also a lot in infighting and fighting between faiths. But they care about us right what want what is best for use?

Governments.
It is suspected that Governments hunt the gifted or dammed, take your your pick why, keep things going well, simple weapon use, there is a lot of infighting between groups in governments and between Governments. Just look on the internet, loads of Conspiracy theory's about Governments having secret weapons. But its all made up right, there is no such thing as real monsters and magic right?

corporations
The new kids on the block, Money and power is there game and they will use ANYTHING to gain a competitive edge or DO anything to stop the competition form getting it. But they would not do anything elegiacal right?

Others
O so many others, in the dark, hidden from few, groups, cults, bands, races. Just a planes shift away, the golden pathways of the fey, the dark houses for the Blood clans, the wolf caves of the moon howlers, o so many places just under the skin of reality. They are the enemy right, we should hunt and kill them for the sake of mankind?

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