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Sorry to see you go Gabsen. Good luck in your other games.

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Level up
+4 hp (assuming average, if I am wrong, let me know pls)

+1 perception
+1 know arcana
+1 spellcraft
+1 use magic device
+1 sense motive

+1 will
+1 bab


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

You are correct in how HP is done yes, phew, Shade has to be real careful with that 10 HP.


Face to face combat is not her thing.


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

Well Face to Face, from behind or wayward Aoe's. I assume if the situation starts getting bad, she might put up precautions.. like the Toughness feat or whatever. Heck, surprise charge Rogue did to Volk all her HP +1 from a sneak attack.


(HP 15/15) | AC:17 | T:13 | FF:14 | CMD 15 | Fort +3 | Ref +4 | Will +4 | Init +5 | Perc: +3 | Speed 30 ft.)

Bye, Gabsen! We'll miss you!


Female Elf Inquisitor (Infiltrator) 1 HP - 15/15; AC 15, T 11, FF 14; Fort +4, Ref +1, Will +5; CMD 14; Init +3; Perception +8

Also: Farewell, Gabsen. May your other games fare better.

Level up

+6 HP

+1 Fortitude
+1 Will
+1 BAB

+1 Bluff
+1 Diplomacy
+1 Disguise
+1 Intimidate
+1 Knowledge (Religion)
+1 Perception
+1 Sense Motive

Spell Learned: Sift
Spell Learned: Litany of Sloth


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

Waiting on Lilica's interrogation.. Not sure if before or AFTER these events but it is a thing we are waiting on. Nice level up btw.


(HP 15/15) | AC:17 | T:13 | FF:14 | CMD 15 | Fort +3 | Ref +4 | Will +4 | Init +5 | Perc: +3 | Speed 30 ft.)

How do you guys want to handle Nicar Rhodes? The interrogation, at least? Scare him witless and piss himself, or try to butter him up?


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

... Torture? I dont know?


(HP 15/15) | AC:17 | T:13 | FF:14 | CMD 15 | Fort +3 | Ref +4 | Will +4 | Init +5 | Perc: +3 | Speed 30 ft.)

I don't think torture, but some intimidation.

Oh! Good cop bad cop!


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

To be fair, he tried to kill us, Volk remembers getting stabbed. Either way he wont be speaking much, most likely providing the implements of 'interrogation' and watching.


Oracle/2; AC: 18; HP: 17/17; F: +2, R: +4, W: +3; Init: -1; Perc: +2, Low-Light Vision; Speed: 30 ft.

Sorry for delay. Real life has intruded.

I vote for giving him a choice. Either he can have a "soft" interrogation at the hands of people like Strigala and walk away physically intact... or she can give Lilica eight hours alone with him.


We need to move forwards guys the game is stalling.

People need to take initiative to start pushing the story forwards.

If SOMEONE has not interrogated Nicar Rhodes by the time I get home in 3 hours then I assume the party simply hands him over to Saul and we will move on to the next day.

I'm not excited about denying a player the opportunity to develop their character but it cannot come at the expense of the game grinding to a halt.

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Male Dwarf Fighter/3; AC: 21; HP: 15/25; F: +4, R: +4, W: +2; Init: +3; Perc: +6, Dark vision 60 ft; Speed: 20 ft.

hello everyone, I've been cordially invited by DM Tuyena to join you and graciously accepted. at the time of posting this im still moding Gramlag to meet the needs for this group but should have that done in no time. looking forward to joining you all soon


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

What do you mean by Needs?


Male Dwarf Fighter/3; AC: 21; HP: 15/25; F: +4, R: +4, W: +2; Init: +3; Perc: +6, Dark vision 60 ft; Speed: 20 ft.

id like to open with a note that i know my main build with be dual wielding shields which looks funny but im going to play it to its fullest and the character is invested in it , any questions on that id be happy to answer

edit: to clarify needs, he at the time of posting was a 15 point buy, and GM told me to spend some gold to bring him in line as well as make him level 2, all of which i was modifying


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

Ahh that makes sense, I was confused a to why you only had two feats. On the other side of things I understand that, I have played a Double Klar Fighter, Straight Fighter.. He was a beast. Used Spears, javelins and Nets.. Was a Mwangi raised by the Squah.


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

Hrmm so all we need is a way to introduce Gramlag. Ad see the results of our earlier checks.


Oracle/2; AC: 18; HP: 17/17; F: +2, R: +4, W: +3; Init: -1; Perc: +2, Low-Light Vision; Speed: 30 ft.

Is the HP correct for my sheet? Half plus one plus Con?


Female Elf Inquisitor (Infiltrator) 1 HP - 15/15; AC 15, T 11, FF 14; Fort +4, Ref +1, Will +5; CMD 14; Init +3; Perception +8

Yep, that is exactly it Strigala.


Oracle/2; AC: 18; HP: 17/17; F: +2, R: +4, W: +3; Init: -1; Perc: +2, Low-Light Vision; Speed: 30 ft.

Thank you!


Being having some bad luck with the map, first I'm posting off a phone, then the site is down. Ug!


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

Yeaah that sucks sometimes I have had the same thing happen when I needed to post for a game on here, select to post and the site goes down and eats my post.. generally it is a long one and I didnt Copypasta it.


Male Dwarf Fighter/3; AC: 21; HP: 15/25; F: +4, R: +4, W: +2; Init: +3; Perc: +6, Dark vision 60 ft; Speed: 20 ft.

so while im at work during the day i wont be able to check roll20 as often as the VM im in uses IE which roll20 doesnt support far as the website says, im still going to be here most of the time just so people know :)


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

Roger Wilco


Male Dwarf Fighter/3; AC: 21; HP: 15/25; F: +4, R: +4, W: +2; Init: +3; Perc: +6, Dark vision 60 ft; Speed: 20 ft.

I have a thought, i think the main reason im not sure whats going on in combat 100% is cuz i lost track when each round ended and stuff, is that something ill get used too?


You should, I also need to be announcing rounds end though, it makes things easier.

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Male Pseudodragon Molting 3 (HP 41/41) | AC:22 | T:16 | FF:18 | CMD 15 | Fort +6 | Ref +8 | Will +6 | Init +4 | Perc: +8 | Speed 15ft, 30 ft. Fly: Good)

Woohoo knock his ass off the pier!


Oracle/2; AC: 18; HP: 17/17; F: +2, R: +4, W: +3; Init: -1; Perc: +2, Low-Light Vision; Speed: 30 ft.

Ternock, it looks like you live!


In other news, we passed 500 posts for our Campaign.

A neat little milestone.


Male Dwarf Fighter/3; AC: 21; HP: 15/25; F: +4, R: +4, W: +2; Init: +3; Perc: +6, Dark vision 60 ft; Speed: 20 ft.

do we get hats? i can make the cake!


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

Hrmm you might get something else instead... how do you feel about.. a new character?


Male Dwarf Fighter/3; AC: 21; HP: 15/25; F: +4, R: +4, W: +2; Init: +3; Perc: +6, Dark vision 60 ft; Speed: 20 ft.

less happy, i wanna see this 2 shield build go somewhere, hope not to die to soon :p


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

Hrm actually no one may be dead.


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

Seems I was right, everyone is alive. Anyhoo..

I was bored so I decided to do the loot we have currently And how it probably will be distributed.

The Great (Failed) Heist
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8x Leather Armor - (5 each) 40gp
8x Short Swords - (5 each) 40gp
A Sickle - 3gp
A Bracer - unidentified Needs Spellcraft
Masterwork Studded Leather - 87.5gp
Masterwork Rapier - 160gp
37 Gold
A Wand - unidentified Needs Spellcraft

Members Distributed [5]( Lilica, Nel, Kertria, Strigala, Volk )
Individual Share Allotted 73.5gp (Subject to change once loot is identified)

The Tumble in the Streets
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2x Masterwork punching daggers - (151 each) 302gp
Chain shirt - 50gp
8x Short swords - (5 each) 40gp
4x Studded Leather - (12.5 each) 50gp
50gp
100gp (Saul Pay)

Members Distributed [5]( Lilica, Nel, Kertria, Strigala, Volk )
Individual Share Allotted 118.4gp

The Pier of Wine and Death
=========================

Masterwork +2 Composite Longbow - 300gp
Greatsword - 25gp
7x Chain Shirts - (50 each) 350gp
6x Heavy Wooden Shields -(3.5 each)21gp
6x Short Swords - (5 each) 30gp
28x Javelins - (.5 each) 14gp
Heavy Steel Shield - 10gp
Masterwork Longsword - 157.5gp
Banded Mail - 125gp
72g
18x Arrows - .45gp

Members Distributed [7]( Gramlag, Lilica, Nel, Kertria, Strigala, Ternock, Volk )
Individual Share Allotted 157.85

So basically the Allotted amount is your share of the loot after everything would be sold for their value. As such if you take an item your buying it from the party, if you are in debt it will simply come out of the next loot and the groups pot would be reduced by how much you character was over unless you add your own personal cash to the pile to make up for it. cool thing is, it basically is great if the item is what you want because your paying half price unlike those who have to buy the item from scratch. But everyone gets a fair amount.


Ok nel will use detect magic and spellcraft to id the unknown items. I'll do it in the game thread.


Male Pseudodragon Molting 3 (HP 41/41) | AC:22 | T:16 | FF:18 | CMD 15 | Fort +6 | Ref +8 | Will +6 | Init +4 | Perc: +8 | Speed 15ft, 30 ft. Fly: Good)

Hmm i need roughly 97 more gold to get masterwork chainmail barding, though Volk is gonna have to hold onto my gold its to heavy for me lol


Male Dwarf Fighter/3; AC: 21; HP: 15/25; F: +4, R: +4, W: +2; Init: +3; Perc: +6, Dark vision 60 ft; Speed: 20 ft.

On the subject of infernal healing, it isnt an evil act ot cast an evil spell, and if your useing it to heal people thats a good act so it cancels out.


Actually that is not the case. Evil is. That is why its spell sub type says that. But i will admit there is a lot of discussion on the topic.

To use the spell is an act of evil. By definition, you cannot do evil for good ends. To say that means the ends justifies the means. This does not mean an evil act makes you evil, but continuously doing does.

Of course this is an area of GM adjudication.


I'm not of a fan of this particular rule, but it is true. Evil spells are evil acts to cast.

That said, they're relatively minor on the alignment chart for the low level ones, you have to cast a decent number of them for them to begin to affect you.

Far more important is the intent of the spell.

But cast something like desecrate on a holy altar 2 or 3 times and you'll be raping churches and burning women in no time.

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Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

Oh yeah its evil and healing in general is not a good or evil act.

And Yes you can summon an army of undead to save some orphanage from burning down, doesn't make it not evil to summon the undead but the act is also some good. Its easier to be evil than good for a reason.


Male Dwarf Fighter/3; AC: 21; HP: 15/25; F: +4, R: +4, W: +2; Init: +3; Perc: +6, Dark vision 60 ft; Speed: 20 ft.

well there is no good reason to cast desicrate on a holy alter, thats only an evil act, but casting infernal healing is helping some one so id count that as at least neutral, some spells i really dont think should count as evil, but currently im not the boss :p gramlag cant cast spells anyhoo


Right I was just illustrating that evil intent will get you there faster.

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Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

Does a minion healing his evil overlord evil? No healing just in general has no alignment because it does the same thing regardless of the recipient and will do some with positive energy which is neither good/evil and uses tend not to be such. While Infernal healing.. well, its in the name.

Evil is ALWAYS supposed to be easier thats why its evil.. to tempt you.


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

Also GM tell us wht the items are that Nel Identified if you would please.


Bracers of Armor +1

You didn't hit the wand.

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It is a interesting topic, with many viewpoints.


Hands up for the bracers here.


Male Human Aetherkineticst 3 | HP 30/33 (3 NL) | AC 17 T 13 FF 14 | Fort +7 Ref +4 Will +2| CMD 13 | Init +3 | Perception +7 | 24/100 Evils

Meh The Bracers are generally bad because you have mage armor which cancels anytime you use it stead of layering over the item. I'll add it and see how it effects the shares, safe to say you will be out of loot for a while then.

Wand must be higher than first level.

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