Second Darkness

Game Master Tuyena

Several questions/comments.
1. I have been trying to get my profile as close as I can to what you request. (slow, I forget to save often enough and something goes wrong and the progress is lost.)
2. In doing so, I noticed a few errors which I fixed (for example, the bladed scarf mentioned in the back story did not show up, and the cestus did not show up as silvered, as it was intended.) I also designated where things are, to some extent.
3. I looked back at some of the game to date (is that OK???). I thought bless and bardic encouragement did not stack. Is that a leftover in my brain from 3.5, error, or house rule. It seems to me they should stack, but...I assume two blessings will NOT stack.
4. Someone noted the need for a hard hitting two handed attacker. Well here I am, the best I can do without being a fighter! Though I must admit it is amazing what Volk can do. I be inclined to call that build broken, but it is played so well, with all the flaws and difficulties of the character, that that is not a problem.

Yes Bless and Inspire Courage stack in our games.

Also, welcome all three of you to the game play thread.

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So what do I remember? What do I know about how I got here?

That's all up to you, somehow you annoyed Elias Tammerhawk, that's the only input you have from me.

Whatever the details of that involved, is your discretion.

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Volk isnt broken.. He isnt a caster or even an archer. He cannot hope to be broken. But yes the character is fun to play nonetheless.

Volk isnt broken.. He isnt a caster or even an archer. He cannot hope to be broken. But yes the character is fun to play nonetheless.

He just seems to have done some amazing things. Looking forward to have my character playing beside him.

Volk isnt sure how this will work out, he is terrible around women for multiple reasons and makes EVERYTHING awkward. If you think what he currently has done was amazing.. well.. I dunno what to say about later.. We shall see. Should be entertaining.

On a curious note what did you find "amazing"?

@DM:Would not winning a philosophical discussion be enough to annoy Elias?
Do I have a free hand with Seniko's clan?
Added the missing flaw and trait.

@Volk: Let's see how often Volk and Seniko try to kill each other ;)
She has no instinctive hesitation about killing, but she instinctively hates demons( both because of her qlippoth
- heritage)

Volk has no concept of killing being wrong if it is either A) For a Job or B) They tried to kill you or C) They hurt someone you care for.. But then again, Volk has no concept of whats fully right or wrong because of lack of social interaction. Ho boy eventually this will be.. something

To be fair is hatred is alot more personal.. and overbearing.

Also Seniko your Reflex is two higher than it should.

Volk isnt sure how this will work out, he is terrible around women for multiple reasons and makes EVERYTHING awkward. If you think what he currently has done was amazing.. well.. I dunno what to say about later.. We shall see. Should be entertaining.

On a curious note what did you find "amazing"?

I would have to look back to get the details, which does not seem fair now that I am in the game and should not know much about you, but the versatility of your abilities, along with the amount of damage you do and the ranged attack abilities impressed me. Perhaps you got a lot of good rolls. It seemed you did more killing in each encounter than anyone else. Impressive role playing.

Also Seniko your Reflex is two higher than it should.

Her Reflex seems correct to me.

I dont particularly use any program as they all tend to make errors here or there I tend to go by hand.. so my sheets/characters tend to be freehand. it creates better system knowledge in my opinion.

Also you are allowed to read previous pages as a matter of fact I would encourage it so that when you MEET said character you would know them well enough to get a sense of the character before hand. Then your character will be immersed in how the quirks of each person is.

Samurai don't have good Reflex saves but she has a +5 but no feat such as Lightning reflexes, thus here save is two higher. If I had to choose a program PCGen and Herolab are often used..

I dont particularly use any program as they all tend to make errors here or there I tend to go by hand.. so my sheets/characters tend to be freehand. it creates better system knowledge in my opinion.

Also you are allowed to read previous pages as a matter of fact I would encourage it so that when you MEET said character you would know them well enough to get a sense of the character before hand. Then your character will be immersed in how the quirks of each person is.

Samurai don't have good Reflex saves but she has a +5 but no feat such as Lightning reflexes, thus here save is two higher. If I had to choose a program PCGen and Herolab are often used..

She must have corrected it by now then, it shows reflex save of 5. Well, time to play.

Should be +3. Unfortunately it might be a while till you meet Volk

Should be +3. Unfortunately it might be a while till you meet Volk

Odd typo. I thought I typed 3. She does seem to have corrected it. Thank you for reminding me that you stayed back at the gambling house. Did anyone else stay back?

@DM Teyuna
Is the dwarven cleric still with the group? If not, when did she leave. If so, I assume you will play her as an NPC until she leaves. She said she owed Saul a small favor, so perhaps it is already paid off. Is anyone else leaving?

@DM:Would not winning a philosophical discussion be enough to annoy Elias?

Do I have a free hand with Seniko's clan?
Added the missing flaw and trait.

@Volk: Let's see how often Volk and Seniko try to kill each other ;)
She has no instinctive hesitation about killing, but she instinctively hates demons( both because of her qlippoth
- heritage)

Why would Seniko try to kill Volk. He is not a demon. Just because you expect him to annoy you?

hi :)

It is not clear to me. Are you the third joining member?

It is because Volk will not like her which in case will cause hostilities.

Well he already had a Mexican standoff with the halfling sorceress that isn't proud, hasn't a four digit kill count or has been turned to stone by magic.

So she doesn't have a reason now, but I expect it to happen eventually.

I am trying to learn how to set this up. I put all my stats under my site name "K'tari" including the name of the character. Then, trying to set up an alias, is seems like I succeeded, but all the stats must be found under "K'tari" Any advice?

Ctrl+C Ctrl+V is your friend here, Simply copy all the formatting from your main alias and paste it under Seekers.. done. Make sure its from 'Ktari' when you go to edit so that you have the bolding and whatnot.

As fa as Seniko its Because what you are.... which will also cause conflictions internally for him. The hate is real. but the love is real.

Any other questions I will gladly try to help , generally in a step by step process if I can

ouch! sorry guys, i just got back and ended up not having internet over the weekend where i was staying. Alls good now :3

Seniko just a note you might want to trade out that potion of enlarge person.. as teiflings are not people they are [slash]monsters[/slash] outsiders

As I was getting to know this system, for a while much of my character description was under K'tari, my forum name. That has been fixed now. I have put more into the physical description of a character than ever before, probably in reaction to not seeing the players face to face. If anyone is an artist I would love to see renderings of any of our characters. I expect most of our pictures are ones we found on this site.

@Volk: yes, that would be a good idea ( but I'm also immune to hold/charm/dominate Person)

Shade did mention Volk hunts fiends. Probably best you don't remind him of one. Might get messy. Then again, if he discovers you were hiding it, might get messier.

Shade did mention Volk hunts fiends. Probably best you don't remind him of one. Might get messy. Then again, if he discovers you were hiding it, might get messier.

Did you intend to say this "in game"? If so, My character would make a reply.

Yes i have mentioned he hunts fiends. And that he is paranoid. In game.

Like I said its more the fact that unlike say.. a Fighter, Volk has the Perception to notice them and the knowledge to know what they are on site.

As I was getting to know this system, for a while much of my character description was under K'tari, my forum name. That has been fixed now. I have put more into the physical description of a character than ever before, probably in reaction to not seeing the players face to face. If anyone is an artist I would love to see renderings of any of our characters. I expect most of our pictures are ones we found on this site.

I could draw up some pictures based on descriptions but it will be some time.

mine is the 3.5 psuedodragon, but with blue human like eyes and thick hair coming out from under my scales... though this will most likely change, must eat more things

Mr. Nomington, Does Ternock have class levels? Does molting mean he is getting bigger or better? Would he be level with the other characters or higher? By the way, I think it was brilliant playing when the GM decided to let you keep playing Ternock when your character died. It did seem difficult to understand why he did not help in the battle.

Really the whole point of Ternock was that he could communicate telepathically. My original character understood but refused to speak common, for a unrevealed reason. So Ternock was a sort of translator for his excessive grunting. Ooc I just simply bought a pseudodragon, but originally Ternock wasn't supposed to fight at all. Once my character got more familiar with the party he would reveal Ternock. And Molting is essentially I eat stuff that is stronger than me to make me stronger. I'm still a monster hence the extra HD but my CR is equal to everyone else's.

He is quite easy to kill too and less likely to hurt.. most things unless he gets flanking.

He is quite easy to kill too and less likely to hurt.. most things unless he gets flanking.

I did see a note yesterday that the benefit of armor for tiny or smaller is one half the normal benefit. Did not know if you knew that or calculated that in when he got his armor.

where is that nonsense? lol

I believe that the half is for when it is smaller than tiny as it is attached to the word but I am not fully sure. I have seen tiny creatures with armor and they seem to have the same Armor bonus.

where is that nonsense? lol

Pathfinder Core Rulebook, sixth printing, March 2013. Page 153. Chapter 6, Equipment. "Table 6-8: Armor for Unusual Creatures", "Tiny or smaller*", "*Divide armor bonus by 2."

Unfortunately by that same logic then creatures such as Hercules beetles and Mantis shrimp destroy the worlds reality because they are SMALLER than tiny and its already been proven those things can take ALOT of punishment and that is just their natural shell. Which is why I said it may apply to smaller than Tiny.

The reason I think this? because by your same mindset Fullplate would do nothing if say a Giant hit you with a Hammer.. and we all know in this game that is not the case. The Fullplate will be sized in effectiveness for the creature in question. Tiny is anywhere from a turtle to an Imp, so I can't say an Armored imp would be LESS Likely to hurt than an Armored Medium person.

while i totally agree with your logic volk, the games design logic is probly that a tiny creature has already itsw size bonus as a bonus to ac and its trying to keep things along a standard line of progress for ac. its odd and kinda sucks but also makes sense

Im going with the opposite Im saying that the Asterisk is not next to the Tiny and thus doesnt apply to it. They number and asterisk things that get such, they did so with the smaller to denote the amount you pay as well as the fact that anything smaller than tiny gets half the benefit.

Physics doesn't work out on any argument in pathfinder, if they did then the Tarrasque would one hit kill anyone he touched just from pure blunt force trauma.

Anyways, I was unaware of this rule which isn't surprisingly since I've never had a tiny sized pc before.

Though to be fair, a halfling could have reduce person cast on them and they don't suddenly lose a boatload of armor.

For now we'll let the full armor bonus stand and adjust it later if it becomes problematic.

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Im going with the opposite Im saying that the Asterisk is not next to the Tiny and thus doesnt apply to it. They number and asterisk things that get such, they did so with the smaller to denote the amount you pay as well as the fact that anything smaller than tiny gets half the benefit.

Look at the chart. It is in fact clear. But the books are only guides, the DM makes the rules. I have no problems with house ruled issues. Better for you is better for us, as long as we do not come upon a bunch of pixies wearing full plate armor! Then we might be in deep trouble.

You might want to make sure you do your research when you say the chart is clear. as this is a creature that wears armor right here.. notice the bonus.

Proof

The Asterisk is for the smaller. That creature is from an AP.

Ah yes, that's Momo from Jade Regent I should have remembered her since we've run that one before. Good catch Volk. The rules for armor then must apply to creatures who are size fine or diminutive.

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