Rise of the Runelords Table 2 (Closed)

Game Master ElegantlyWasted

Wow it got quiet.

It has hasn't it? :)

Uff da! You're telling me, two of my games were dropped by the GM today and I was starting to get paranoid.

Same here Chrona. I feel bad for Mathpro :(

Me too, sounded like some bad rolls.

Apologies for vanishing XD I got really busy finishing up some chaos.

Splendid! Some down time. An opportunity to sell up any 'loot' we have gathered and generally sort out our finances and equipment. I'm not sure how much we have made but given we've got time, if people want, Lackspell is willing to make some potions for the group. His list of spells to make into potions is very limited at this level but he can do Cure Light Wounds so this might be a good opportunity to make sure everyone has at least one. The other one he can make that might be of interest to some is Shield.

What do you think?

So a summary of finances thus far.

I'm assuming that we have already shared out the healing potions but that nobody wants anything else ...

Shortbows 5@30gp = 150gp
Arrows 5@1gp = 5gp
Masterwork Horsechoppers 5@310gp = 1550gp
Dogslicers 16@8gp = 128gp
Leather Armor 16@10gp = 160gp
Studded Leather 4@25gp = 100gp
Whips 2@1gp = 2gp

Actual coin collected = 112gp

All together that adds up to 2,207 GP!

Now most of that obviously comes from the Masterwork Horsechoppers and I'd like to be sure that Wasted agrees with my working on that before handing out the cash and hitting the shops, but that value is what the SRD suggests.

Assuming he does agree that is 367GP 8SP and 3CP each

Well I'm not sure if I'm incorrect, but thats the price of all the stuff right? Don't shops purchase from us at half price? I was under the impression they never pay full price so a mwk horsechopper which is normally 310 would be bought at 155gld. I could be wrong though, feel free to correct me.

Yep, It's half normal unless you have some special reason to get more or less.

Plus these are all small goblin weapons, it wouldn't be unthinkable that the GM wants to say there is not a high demand in town for these.

Now if someone was smart and wanted to market these as mementos of the attack, and souvenirs of the heroes first exploits in Sandpoint... Well then with some good rolls we may be able to jack up the price a bit.

OK, I've not run into that before but it seems fair... 2K gold at first level seemed like a lot to me too...

OK so I'm thinking we want to have everyone in the party have at least one healing potion for emergencies - does anyone not have one?

Lackspell, I'm good for now with potions, I don't need a shield potion yet.

Lackspell I'd probably find out all the alchemical stuff you can make from the gm then make a list with prices and time to make so the party can utilize the awesome Lackspell resource

Good idea Arkon ...

It is correct that you sell items at half their market price.
Here is a link for some alchemy stuff;
Alchemical Goodness!
Just let me know what you plan on making and I'll okay it unless you're trying to do something truly bonkers.

Hey everyone, just for the heads up today is my wife's birthday so I won't be able to post until later in the evening. Cheers.

Lackspell, I'm not sure what the cost of a shield potion is, but I would like one if it's not too high cost/difficult to make. It may come in handy until I get my lay on hands class ability.

Tell her Happy Birthday xP

Shield cannot be made into a potion since it has a range of "personal"

Dammit you are right! Ironically, if I take the Infusion discovery then I will be able to get around that by sharing extracts ... that could be a way off though as he won't be taking that for his first two discoveries....

Yeah, alchemists get some much tastier discoveries than just one that makes them buff bots

True ... first one pretty much has to be precise bombs unless he was going to go the Jekyll&Hyde brute route... which I might well be interested to try if I ever make a 2nd Alchemist.

Ragechymist is kind of fun

So finances are at 1159gp 5sp total, 193gp 2sp 5cp each?

Ragechymist is kind of fun

Hulk smash xD

Wait til you see Arkon as an Allosaurus... eventually

I think that's total, not each, Chrona

Good good, I only meant the 193.25gp each

Aaaah misread :D

Yup - 193 sounds right :)

Do we subtract anything for the potions the Lackspell made?

no it's ok - he'll pay for these ones ... since he couldn't make Shield he only made a couple of healing potions. Quite happy to wear the cost for that. Hopefully they will keep the tougher members of the party in a position to keep the fight away from him :)

If only Mage Armor was on your list :p

Yeah I have been quietly bemoaning that fact to myself for a while now :`(

The "protection from magic missiles" thing is way too situational to balance out Mage Armor's lovely long duration. :)

Still, on the plus side, I can wear light armor to get Armor Bonus - I have high hopes that one day a certain kindly DM will present Lackspell with a magical leather coat so that his AC can soar to the heights of 15 or 16 ...

Ok stupid question. Can't you buy a scroll of Mage Armor and use it to learn the formula?
I've never played an Alchemist so I don't know the rules for them that well, but it seems like it would be allowed if you gain formulas like wizards.

The alchemist does gain spells in a very similar way to wizards. And he can in fact learn a new formula from a scroll or spellbook to add to his own journal. But only those spells that are on the Alchemist list. So he could for example learn Haste from a wizard's spellbook, but not Fireball.

This is the closest look to Varak I think xP not to break the topic of discussion, just for anyone wondering. I don't have the skull mask, but I wouldn't be opposed to wearing one of I'm ever lucky to find one from a bigger reptile of some kind

My Lizardfolk

Yep, Ren definitely need to think more about the possibility of you eating her. :)

Yeah he is quite fearsome looking... and when he goes around biting goblins to death then fearsome moves up to terrifying :)

The chomping looks super satisfying!

"SUP GUYS. TOTES JUST A COOL LIZARD GUY. NOT AT ALL THINKING ABOUT EATING YOU." He seems to say

Ignore me! XD

Just had the thought, what are the rules around the form of an alchemist's final product? Chrona would definitely fund Lackspell generously if he could prepare a 'special' pack of smokes for her that were rolled with a Heroism (or something of the like) powder.

It seems to me that the form of the output is essentially cosmetic. From a gaming perspective there's no practical difference between drinking a potion and for example eating a potion infused bagel (or indeed smoking an infused cigarette).

The gotcha is that I will have to take a particular path in order to do this. Alchemists by default cannot give their potions to others to use, they are purely for personal use. Unless I take a particular discovery to make this possible. I only get a discovery every even numbered level and I am already fairly set on my first two discoveries, which means I couldn't take that until 6th level. However, I won't get access to Heroism (which is a third level formula/spell) until 7th level anyway - so that probably lines up OK.

EDIT: Actually, all of that said - I guess an argument could be made that the output form of the Brew Potion feat is largely cosmetic too. So (if our kindly DM was agreeable) I might be able to do that sort of thing earlier for lower level stuff. I'd still have to wait until 7th level to do Heroism though.

EDIT: Actually, all of that said - I guess an argument could be made that the output form of the Brew Potion feat is largely cosmetic too. So (if our kindly DM was agreeable) I might be able to do that sort of thing earlier for lower level stuff. I'd still have to wait until 7th level to do Heroism though.

Yeah I've never played as or with an Alchemist before, definitely do your build your way first though.

The brew potion musing makes sense to me, I would be surprised if Wasted would have an issue with cosmetic things. Out of curiosity I've tried to find a list of the potions Lackspell could make but can't track one down. What is available to you?

If you mean you can't find the alchemist's 'spell' list, it is here

If you mean what can Lackspell specifically make, the list is much smaller, essentially being limited to just Cure Light Wounds and Endure Elements at the moment.

Potions are limited to level 3 spells or below

Brew Potion rules

Yeah they are, but as an alchemist that won't be a problem for me until I get to 10th level and start getting spells of 4th level :)

I want to give everyone a heads up that I'll be with low to no internet for Saturday through Monday and will presumably not be able to post. Feel free to push things ahead with me on auto-pilot.