
Sergislav the Strong |

Wondrous items are actually the bread and butter... and mead... and water... and camel... of an adventuring party. They're pretty much vital for not failing at adventuring.

Steve the Cat |

My one concern with crafting (although to be honest I'm not very concerned at all) is that all the traveling time will turn into and over-abundance of wondrous items or whatever. But really I don't think we'll actually have any problems.
PS, I'm home sick today. So boo sickness, but yay for my posting rate!

Zathyl Sathis |

PS, I'm home sick today. So boo sickness, but yay for my posting rate!
I'm sorry Steve. At least you have us to keep you company!
Also, before I start posting in group 1 again, what about that permit or permission? Do we know if we are supposed to have one or are we good?

Simon Saito |

At least there's an up side.
It looks like we're only both awake for a couple hours, which is unfortunate, but there's some good stuff going on now. :)

Steve the Cat |

Permits: If this were the Empire, you'd definitely be using permits, however, from what you've heard about liberalness/open-minded attitude of Bard's Gate it would definitely be conceivable that a permit would be unnecessary. It is a haven for performers after all. So to answer your question - I'm not telling! I can guarantee that you won't destroy the campaign if you just set up now and worry about permission later, so go ahead.

Flying Jack |

Simon: I would STRONGLY caution against taking that favored class bonus out of HP. If your HP is going to suck, don't make it suck more—you're essentially reducing your survivability by 1/4, in order to increase your skill points by 1/8. If you're worried about skill coverage, I'd just leave one rank in some of your skills (Profession (hypnotist), for instance)—but note that a single rank of Spellcraft should be fine for now, and Veilwar and Zathyl will also have no trouble with it.
Scout: The right wondrous items is far more important than magic weapons/armor, for most characters. Although in some situations Craft Construct is my favorite option.

Simon Saito |

Jack: I'll take your word for it. At this point it seems like if he takes a hit at all, it's pretty much over. >\\\<
Fixed.
Sergei: If he levels high enough, the snake will be smarter than most of us. :P
Scout: Sorry if we went a little overboard with the joking. I don't want to make you feel threatened. It really was all in good fun. Kinda worried since you didn't say anything about it. :(

Scout 42 |

Given that my post that started it all was a joke I'm not worried about it. I have a tendency to make a post or two and then do something else for a few hours before I check back. Usually it's not a problem, but I wasn't expecting the posting rate to be so high.

Simon Saito |

*breath of relief*
It would appear that most of us are out of our various obligations for Snowmageddon 2015.
At least it means we have power. ^_^

Zathyl Sathis |

”Zathyl, can you talk with Slatha beforehand to respond to a set of real complicated verbal cues? It might be more impressive if you look like you’re taking to him without that spell all you druids get to talk to animals.”
Actually, I believe Slatha can at least understand common. Under the familiar section of www.d20pfsrd.com (Here!) it says that animals with above average intelligence (those that have and intelligence of 3 or more) can learn to understand a language (though, they can't necessarily speak it).
To those earlier, yes he will probably get very smart, even smarter than his master....

Sergislav the Strong |

I wouldn't be exceptionally worried about the post rate. These tend to start -very- fast, then slow down as someone starts to wait on someone else who is waiting on someone else who is waiting on someone else who... doesn't particularly care. :)
As for Snowmageddon... thursdays are just my day off. I'm still locked into wishing I didn't have to go into the world of ice and snow.

Simon Saito |

Are you based on Evra from Cirque du Freake?
I meant to ask earlier if I didn't. :)
Kinda hoping, though I've only read 1-3 and seen the movie.

Flying Jack |

Yeah... there's also some cool feats that require 15 wisdom, but otherwise you'll have that odd score for a really long time—with 20 point buy, you could reduce wis to 14 and raise con to 10, which would keep your wis bonus the same while raising hp and fort save.
Of course, Jack has an ulterior motive for suggesting this, since his drawback makes him upset whenever one of his allies is knocked out. :p

Zathyl Sathis |

Are you based on Evra from Cirque du Freake?
I meant to ask earlier if I didn't. :)
Kinda hoping, though I've only read 1-3 and seen the movie.
I'm sorry but no... Nice comparison though, I never thought of it. He is a little bit more snake than man and looks more like a serpentfolk (which is why he tends to wear his hood up and keep most people from looking at him too closely in public.... It also helps with his act and raises shock value).
I feel sorry to say that I have not read the book series, but I have seen the movie. I have also read the whole graphic novel series.... which I don't count as reading the book series and more like manga.... I'm kinda an anime geek that way.... So I know what happens, but in manga format. I did enjoy it very much though.

Sergislav the Strong |

The book series was -pretty- good. I can only really remember cliff notes, though, and it's a tad on the 'black and white' side, even for that age bracket of books. It was still a good enough read for me to not have to force my way through, though!

Zathyl Sathis |

...There's a manga?
Yep: Here and you can find examples of the content online.
Though... it's a manga and I'm not sure how into it you would be.
I would have read the book series (I tend to be a book/computer geek/nerd), but the manga was faster and it was near the end of one of my high school semesters (I was getting most of my reading material from my school library).

Flying Jack |

Ah... the 15 wis gets you 1/day charm person. Which is about the same as one extra bard spell, but you can't really boost your charisma any higher.

Simon Saito |

Two levels and it'll be 20. ;)
Not to mention it's an SLA, Ergo no components, so it's more like a silenced, stilled, components eschewed, bard spell. ;P

Zathyl Sathis |

Act Idea: Zathyl has a recurring act (not his only one, just one of his favorites) where a strong man takes him and his familiar inside a jar big enough to hold them (with Zathyl contorted inside) to the center tent. The mouth of the jar is too small for Zathyl to fit through but large enough for his familiar to fit through (maybe 3 times as wide as he is). Slatha slithers and snake dances his way out through the top of the jar and might use his magic to make interesting effects as he does. After he leaves the jar and the audience thinks that only a tiny snake was in a big jar, Zathyl goes into action. He activates his Slither (Ex) from his Serpent Domain and then contorts and squeezes through the jar's opening (snake dancing with added effects from Slatha). Then... maybe does a duet snake dance with Slatha and then activates his ability again and jumps back into the jar.
What do ya think guys?

Simon Saito |

I think Steve Kitty and Sergei might be expecting each other to post?
The intention was to ask Sergei if he thought they should ask the others. :)

Simon Saito |

Sounds like a cool act.
I noticed you have ranks in perform dance.
We could go straight from that into both of us doing one dance.
*Zathyl's act ends with applause.*
"And now for your delight and edification, The Great Serpent Sathis, and I,"
*rips off announcer uniform for eastern dance garb*
"The Enchanting Seemon Saito will perform for you a traditional dance of the lost civilization of the people of the forests."
*holds out a hand for him to step off the large jar with.*

Zathyl Sathis |

That actually sounds great. I could be a support role for dancing (since his dance skill isn't very high to begin with) and end doing the same thing I said before.

Flying Jack |

Well, depending on how recently the circus split up, Jack is probably used to a routine with a lot more people.

Simon Saito |

It was Simon's question to Sergei. :)
Well, it was a questioning statement addressed to him.
Anyways. I'll just ask the next one.

Simon Saito |

So, are people alright with Simon MCing in place of a ringmaster?
If so, current draft of the show:
People take tickets and file in. Simon enters with his cloak on. The lights go down and spotlights center in the middle.
No one is there until a man in a cloak enters from the audience.
Simon throws his cloak off and turns it around to reveal his white suit, as a white top hat is thrown to him from off stage.
He welcomes everyone, offers to be scanned by magic, and leads into the first act.
Sergei does strong man stuff.
Second act, Veilwar does his thing and some audience choice illusions.
Third Simon does some hypnotism.
Fourth, Jack and Scout have their thing.
Fifth Zathyl and Slatha do the jar thing, Segway in straight into Simon and Zathyl.
Then the finale has them all doing something as of yet undetermined.
Sound right?

Zathyl Sathis |

Oh, sure. It's just also a very basic spell, and one you could cast like 8 times anyway.
Actually, the cool thing about it is that it isn't even magic. Its an extraordinary ability with uses. Which means detect magic doesn't even register! "How did he do that? I don't know, but we know it isn't magic!"
Also, sorry but I don't know what to post at the moment either. Maybe sleep is a good idea. Talk to you guys tomorrow.

Flying Jack |

Yeah, Simon definitely makes sense as a current MC. And the SLA that Simon gets is an SLA, so it does register as a spell being cast, though his other abilities are Supernatural instead. It just seems like 15 Wis is a pretty heavy price to pay for a racial SLA, usually they require 11 of something.

Flying Jack |

Oh! Didn't know you had that. In that case, I'd recommend spending 20-30 of your remaining GP to get some more scaly friends! (5 gp for each 8-foot python!) A riding gecko/crocodile/pteranodon could be cool for someday, too.

Flying Jack |

And Flying jack has tons of acrobatics too, though his specialties are probably plate spinning and trapeze.

Sergislav the Strong |

Also, Rule-chattiness. It occurs to me that pretty much the only time you would ever use an armored coat is when you're poor. A chain shirt is basically superior in every way, as you can effectively just wear it wherever you like, without any penalties compared to the armored coat... in fact, only bonuses. I guess it works as an armored blanket to throw over someone who is in danger? It also possibly works great for a Charger [Archetype]'s Barding. Could also Cheese for quilted cloth with it, so you get the DR and a decent armor bonus... but I think making the armored coat Medium armor was a mistake on Paizo's part. It'd be neat as light armor, but as medium, I don't forsee Sergei wearing it for long if given a choice.

Simon Saito |

I thought armored coat was light armor for my first character ever. He was an alchemist, so he wasn't actually proficient with it when we found out, so the GM just allowed it.
It's good for getting on and off quickly. I have a character in a game with a different system who uses it because he has an enchantment spell that requires willing or helpless target. After a fight, you just slip off the coat, shackle the guy and mind dominate him for information and armor cleaning. :P