Spica Antares |
Merry christmas!
Spica Antares |
As far as I know, the magus chooses whether to cast the spell or to attack first, and a touch spell comes with a free attack to deliver it. Therefore the magus can choose if the first or the second attack has the spell, but he chooses before rolling.
Rynjin |
I thought the spell always came on the second attack, actually.
You get one attack (that is your normal attack) and the second attack is the free attack to deliver the spell.
Then again, it doesn't really matter as long as I declare it, since the bonuses are identical here (though won't be with iteratives, so I can't deliver it with those I think).
Spica Antares |
My group's reading and interpretation read it as thus:
The magus has two "groups" of attacks:
Group A is his iterative attacks with his weapon.
Group B is his spell attack.
He can do A or B first, but he can't do part of A, then B, then the rest of A.
So he could do Shocking Grasp then his two attacks, or two attacks and then Shocking, but not attack, Shocking, attack.
Lemmy |
Dude... It's just like TWF without the Improved and Greater versions of the feat... It doesn't matter in what order you make your attacks, as long as you apply the correct bonuses and penalties.
You could make all your iterative attacks (with the appropriate -2) and only then make your "off-hand attack" (which is the spell being cast... Oddly enough, it doesn't have to be an attack spell).
A Magus can also replace the free touch attack (from casting touch spells) with a free weapon attack... So you can do that to make an extra attack. The trade off is that if you chose to do so, you're not targeting touch AC anymore.
This is what allows Magi to use Arcane Mark to get an extra attack (although at the cost of applying a -2 to all attacks) and Zorro their way into battle.
Karla Teg |
Sorry about the confusion DM.
To avoid it, perhaps we could agree on one of the following?
-We give at least 30 mn before posting our actions.
-You put a WIP at the bottom of the post until it's ready.
In the games I run, I use the preview button until it's ready for the players, but you have to copy/paste things in case you loose your post. When I can, I create the post in a separate file. The advantage is I can keep the rolls and just copy them where I need.
I also handle maps differently. Let me know if you wish to share ideas.
Nicos |
Nicos wrote:Flynn Wildstrider wrote:If it doesn't bother you, Nicos, I'd like to roll my own saves... It kinda annoys me to have other people rolling my dice.It depends. For example might need to know if you get blinded in order to see if the following attack is a sneak attack or notIn that case you can roll SA damage and then I simply apply it (or not, if I make the save) after I roll (I intend to keep my current HP updated).
I will let you roll your dices if do not need to know the result beforehand.
Spica Antares |
Eight here.
My elementals have respectively taken either three and eleven or five and thirteen damage, depending on their respective reflex saves. Will post soon.
Spica Antares |
Happy new year!
Lemmy |
You know... Whoever said two objects can't occupy the same space at the same time obviously has never taken a bus in Brazil during rush hour... But hey, at least I arrived at my friend's house in time to watch El Chavo del Ocho... -.-'
Anyway... Did I act in this turn already? I'm not sure what's happening right now. oO
Nicos |
I hate soccer and despise samba. I'm more of a "(American) Football & Classic Rock" kind of guy... I just had no opportunity to access the internet in the last couple days, since I'm not home and forgot to check my phone... -.-'
Posting now.
Dude, you start posting just when I decided to skip your turn, whata bad timing :/
and you have really bad taste BTW (not for liking football and classic rock, but for disliking soccer and samba).
Lemmy |
and you have really bad taste BTW (not for liking football and classic rock, but for disliking soccer and samba).
I find soccer extremely boring, and samba is... meh... "Despise" is probably too strong a word, but that music style really doesn't do anything for me.
Spica Antares |
As agreed, I dropped the Augment Summoning feat I didn't qualify for and took Extra Hex instead, choosing the Flight hex.
Nicos |
So, what do you guys think about our first battle?.
To maintaing the same CR as the original 3.5 adventure I rised the level of every NPC by 1, the rise in HP probably make the fight longer that it should have been, But it what supposed to be a not easy fight.
there was amoment hat thing get really dangerous for you, Spica was grappled and kenchi was about to be cour de graced,. Karla seems to have recived heavy injuries.
By the other hand for the druid of the group it was like sunshine and puppies :)
Lemmy |
Of course it was Sunshine and Puppies (and Aurochs). I'm a NG Druid! ;)
I'm not sure how CR will play out, on one hand, PF classes tend to be somewhat more powerful (well, except Druid, which is the one class we have that is also present in 3.5. lol)... OTOH, we have lower attribute scores... So maybe it evens out?
I dunno... Only time will tell.
Spica Antares |
I think that first fight played out pretty fairly.
It sounds like it's supposed to be the only encounter we'll have all day, so it's normal that it would drain most of our resources.
(I'm guessing it translated to CR 8 or so?)
Lemmy |
And another BTW, I like the house rule that weapon focus and related feat works for the entire fighter weapon group.
For example we would have Weapon focus (heavy blades) instead of weapon focus (longsword).
If nobody oppose i would like to use that houserule.
I'm okay with that... It probably won't affect me anyway, so no big deal.
Spica Antares |
Sounds good to me. It's hardly overpowered in the first place.