GM Chyro |
Waterbreathing sure.
But in all fairness, without the pony, as our cavalier's camel also didn't come along down here.
Spenser Quixote |
Given that we've been having increasing trouble finding level-appropriate adventures that none of us have played (or that we couldn't at least swap out the DM for), it's probably good news that, having just won an all-pregen module the Chronicle for which will go to Spenser, that Chronicle and the one at the end of this will mean that I will be level 7 in time for our next adventure!
Sele the Thorn |
I'll be away for the next 3 to 5 days with limited net access. Bot me if needed.
GM Chyro |
This sucks, too much hot rolls for the lacedon.
Alright team, so where do you go from here.
If Spenser has the means, i can imagine you travel back to the city and revive him, and then return here, yes?
GM Chyro |
No time rush is specified, no, save for the VC being an utterly impatient d!ck, given the opening of the mission.
Although, if you take a night rest to recover spells, so do the enemies within the ship, giving them more spell slots to use.
It's practically a trade-off to consider.
Spenser Quixote |
*puts on barrister's wig*
I contend that, since YOU made those stabilization rolls without my express consent, that they are invalid in this case, and cannot be used to deny my later rolls! What say you to that?
Also, I would point out this, and the ensuing diversity of responses.
GM Chyro |
Erm, your honor...
The hot dice from the lacedon, causing your passing out were made on thursday, i called out to your honor to make a saving throw.
Nothing on thursday and friday, so i made the two successful rolls on saturday, and there were no objections back then for the result.
Edit for the [smaller stuff]
Yes i recall reading that somewhere in the past.
I also recall reading about 1 reroll per PC in a game.
Edit 2:
I can understand a 2nd death really bothers you. If you feel the death was not to be, i can ask another for a 2nd opinion, to have them look for anything i may have missed, that would be in your favor.
Spenser Quixote |
The hot dice from the lacedon, causing your passing out were made on thursday, i called out to your honor to make a saving throw.
Nothing on thursday and friday, so i made the two successful rolls on saturday.
I plead literal, not-the-fun-kind insanity. My client was in an advanced state of disability during that period...and also may not have been able to see the posts.
Edit 2:
I can understand a 2nd death really bothers you. If you feel the death was not to be, i can ask another for a 2nd opinion, to have them look for anything i may have missed, that would be in your favor.
It certainly does seem like "a bit much, a bit soon". Under the circumstances, I would stand with the appeal above for leniency with regards to the consequences of rolls made for me during either an uncharacteristic absence or a period of personal confusion as to what was being asked of me.
GM Chyro |
Given a PM earlier, your honor, your client followed it in secret.
Given we could probably go on with the court, mind if i talk to that other person, on your behalf?
Spenser Quixote |
Given a PM earlier, your honor, your client followed it in secret.
Tried to, didn't necessarily comprehend everything read. As a matter of fact, almost certainly didn't, as my client would have jumped in to make the roll(s) had he clearly understood he was being asked, in that moment, to make them...especially since the DM did not make it clear, in the absence of his name in bold on the initiative roster during the period in question, that my client was "up". I believe earlier PMs will support that confusion.
Harlis Underbough |
So a return to town and get Spenser back amongst us. Then maybe go purchase a scroll of waterbreathing and a handful of elixirs of swimming would take how long by the time we got back? I would suggest that would be the minimum gear we need to proceed further into the ship.
Sele the Thorn |
Getting Spenser back among us is not necessarily so easy, it cost alot last time and i'm not sure we have the resources again.
GM Chyro |
^
This. :/
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Alright guys.
With the current plight, i've asked the OVC for a 2nd opinion, to see if i've overlooked/missed anything that would save Spenser's life.
2 sets of eyes often see more than one.
Magabeus will have a look into it later today (West Europe timezone), and will post something here in discussion afterwards.
Magabeus |
this is the post where things started going south.
What I miss in that post is an opportunity for Spencer to note the enemy. Although the creatures have reasonable stealth it is very likely that Spencer would have noted at least one of them. Perception vs Stealth rolls should have been made.
If Spencer would not have entered the room he would have had cover (because of the hard corners) vs most of the lacedons and might not have died.
Therefore it is my opinion that Spencer's death might have been caused by GM error and should be unwound. I strongly advise to start again with the team gathered near the door to the hold where the lacedons are.
I also recommend to get to a common understanding what rolls the GM can make for the PCs and what not. Especially in PBP it is good to have the GM roll certain things for the PCs (if we allow all PCs to roll their own initiative it would take a lot of time). I understand that a player wants to make their own rolls, on the other hand the GM needs to move the game ahead at times. It is my opinion that your GM acted fairly in rolling these constitution saves.
I have dotted this game and will stick around this discusion tread for a few days. I hope you can continue the game and have fun with it.
Sele the Thorn |
Thanks GM Magabeus, and it's a good bunch just Chyro does enjoy trying very hard to kill people with Greataxes and stuff ;o)
GM Chyro |
Spenser, my reason for not rolling that perception, was their take 10 result would beat your maximum perception.
Though i forgot you have good hope active at the time.
I'm relieved, so, shall we get go down -the other- timeline, where you just own these things, alright?
Edit: Greataxes are a thing of the distant past.
Sele the Thorn |
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I'm not retired yet.. still plenty of time.
Spenser Quixote |
@Magabeus: In the immortal words of Nordom: "Gratitudes! Gratefuls!" Yeah, that hard corner thing would have made a big, big difference. As for my appeal to "who gets to make PC rolls", I knew it was weak (albeit still not worthless), but I was working with what little I that could see I had.
Halfling woman, cool pic.
Uh-oh, here comes our next big Disney Princess...!
GM Chyro |
Hehe, Sele would love to spar with her, i'm sure. :3
Edit, those attacks would have been surprise things.
Stealth vs perception and all that.
GM Chyro |
Feel free to bot Vassago's turn.
I'll do otherwise tomorrow.
Gnight...
(turns over to sleep)
GM Chyro |
Vassago, to answer your question about resting.
The Sniper is an artifact of great power, you are on a mission to get to it before anyone else can claim its power.
Given, the VC was very impatient, and the mission isn't speaking of multiple days.
It's a race for the prize, giving me the impression this is a mission with time pressure weighing on you.
Speaking slightly meta here, the bbeg can actually escape with the prize while you'd rest, given 8 hours of time.
GM Chyro |
What's the plan?
Get stocked on supplies and return?
Sele the Thorn |
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I spose we can do a quick trip and get some water breathing potions?
Xazil |
A single scroll will be a lot cheaper than potions.
One scroll is 10 hours for half the cost of the potions and can give you each 3 hours for 375 total. Harlis can cast the scroll for no fail. You could split the cost for 125gp each.
250gp gives an elixir of swimming for an hour of +10 swim skill for us other than Vassago and his swim speed.
GM Chyro |
Ok.
So 1 elixer of swimming for each, save for Vassago.
And 1 scroll of waterbreathing, another 125gp for each, save for Harlis.
Spenser Quixote |
WAIT, I only just thought of this: Since we went back ashore to shop and such, could I have visited Lot to pick up my masterwork lance?
It wouldn't have changed what little has happened so far since we returned.
GM Chyro |
Sele, to answer your question on your dmg.
Underwater combat halves most physical dmg.
GM Chyro |
Spenser, making 5ft step underwater, would require a swim speed.
Elixer of swimming provides a +10 bonus on swim checks only.
GM Chyro |
Spenser, have you ever considered playing Mortal Kombat?
You seem to be skilled at fatalities. ^^
Spenser Quixote |
"Aye, but the woe in the wot of that art twofold: mein indelible y uncompromised Occidentalism, et mon mithrilline cœur-compass, would surely conspire alike to dash me from such a demon-tourney's registry ere I even heft the pen!"
Spenser Quixote |
Why am I not in bold like Harlis and Vassago, despite appearing to be in the same initiative bracket?
GM Chyro |
Of the group, your init was lowest.
Roll ahead as you wish, their results will merely go off before.
Spenser Quixote |
In that case, I'll at least wait for Harlis to do whatever he does.
Are we still underwater? We haven't breached into an air pocket/sea cave or anything?
GM Chyro |
Good call. Once you ascend the stairs, you in fact -do- enter a pocket of air.
GM Chyro |
Spenser,
You have access to move your own token which would also give you opportunity to check if you would have to move upstairs.
With Harlis and Vassago taking aoo, i'd think you'd be aware of the possibility of you taking one too.
Add that you said you'd like to end your move behind him, that makes me think you're aware and willing to take the risk.
Calling retcon after taking a hit, not even confirmed, is weird.
I'll go with it now, you remaining, but if you are uncertain of movement, please move the icon to check, to avoid this in the future.
Also, since you didn't want to move, you are still below deck and thereby prevented from seeing Dargo.
Spenser Quixote |
You have access to move your own token which would also give you opportunity to check if you would have to move upstairs.
...
Also, since you didn't want to move, you are still below deck and thereby prevented from seeing Dargo.
I wasn't clear on what I was looking at.
With Harlis and Vassago taking aoo, i'd think you'd be aware of the possibility of you taking one too.
I didn't catch that they did.
GM Chyro |
Well..
As Vassago ascends to move past the others, Vaydran quickly reaches out to Vassago.
Touch, height: 1d20 + 8 + 1 ⇒ (13) + 8 + 1 = 22 Supernatural: 6d6 ⇒ (4, 5, 3, 6, 4, 2) = 24
Touch aoo, height: 1d20 + 8 + 1 ⇒ (16) + 8 + 1 = 25 6d6 ⇒ (6, 5, 4, 1, 4, 6) = 26
Fort for 1/2: 1d20 + 8 ⇒ (11) + 8 = 19 Pass.
GM Chyro |
Something for the kineticists in my games.
I play one in PFS, and re-reading stuff:
Gathering power in this way allows the kineticist to reduce the total burn cost of a blast wild talent she uses in the same round by 1 point.
It doesn't work for empowering blasts.
Eating 1 burn also gives 1nl per PC lvl. 3 burn would give a lvl 6 PC 18nl, for example.