MiniGM's Council of Thieves

Game Master Vuvu

Lately I have been really interested in low powered low magic games. Magic items are rare and cannot be bought all over the place.

Is anyone interested in playing either of the two AP's above with the following build rules

Stats 16, 14, 13, 12, 10, 10
Traits 3+1 campaign
Classes (this is where we get crazy) NPC classes. To offset the power difference characters get to start at level 2
Gear: 500 gp
Races: all common races. Ask about others, but things that are unusual will be vetoed
Hp: max at first half+1 thereafter
Alignment: no evil
Posting: 1 per day (note I am on PST)

Now looking at these restrictions I know that players are underpowered. To compensate I will adjust monsters as needed. For example DR will be lowered to make fighting things possible. There will also be teamwork feats granted to the party as we go through. This is not for everyone and might not be for anyone, but that is what I wish to discover.

Interest for Council of Thieves. If you go with CotCT I would back off.

So you want regular first level, and then NPC levels thereafter? Unique.

All npc levels. I meant that you start at level 2 and will always be one level up. I might allow players to switch to PC classes around level 10 or so

I have been reading cotct and I actually am leaning toward council myself.

Edited te original post for clarity

I wil get something up today that meets that requirement. Sounds interesting to say the least.

I'd be very, very interested in playing either of these APs. Not sure how I feel about the NPC class aspect yet. Dotting for interest.

Cool. Hopefully we get 4 players at least.

Also I am willing to allow players to have a single item that has been in the family for generations, this item can be MW . So a warrior might have his great grandfathers sword or his breastplate or whatever.

Sure sixteen! As I said it is not for everyone at all

Definitely in for this. If it's still under discussion, I'd vote Council of Thieves, since I'm already in a CotCT game.

Sounds cool - I'm interested. Are you limiting anathematic substances like silver and mithral, as well?

Sounds cool - I'm interested. Are you limiting anathematic substances like silver and mithral, as well?

Nope. These are readily available

Wow, this is an interesting idea! I'm down for either of the two APs and will sort out a character this evening.

Ok sounds like it will be council folks

Interesting idea. WOuld like it to be Council though.

Tieflings show up in the CoT players guide. While I'm not actually thinking of playing one right now, I might be struck with some sort of inspiration later if tiefling race is allowed. Yay or nay?

Yes we are council of thieves. Official now.

As to tiefling, I need to redownload and read it. I just can't remember how common tie flings are in westcrown

Am thinking Dwarf Expert. Blacksmith or brewer something.

I'm leaning toward halfling adept or expert.

Sounds interesting. Will work up a character.

Oooh, I'd be very interested in a low-powered CoT!

Are you stalking me michael?

Hey, I'm not in all of your games...I think :)

BTW, there are definitely a good number of tieflings in Westcrown. They are seriously looked down upon though, so you can expect lots of prejudice.

I'm interested in any AP campaign, regardless of theme or buy point or how things are done. Some I prefer more than others, but yeah, I'd be interested. I don't quit until I find an AP campaign.

Looks like a skulls a shackles background lucky... Can you create one for council? Also folks something to keep in mind

For the most part imagine that you are just an ordinary person before you inherited your item and please include the inheritance in your story

Introducing Clothyard Shaft, human warrior/expert. His grandfather was Chelish nobility before the wars of succession that ended in the Thrune dynasty rise to power. Since his family fought for the other side, all their lands and titles were taken away.

Shaft has his grandfather's fine longbow (masterwork) which has been handed down from generations. He went to fight in the Chelish arm, but soon tired of the diabolical emphasis of that path. He has returned to his home village as a hunter and trapper, using the bow to make a living, but his feelings against the Thrune family are not far below the surface.

He is a large brawny man, quick to anger or to laugh. He has a dark beard, and long dark hair, sort of a woodsman ala Hawkeye, who comes to town mostly for supplies before heading back to the wilderness again.

He keeps his families signet ring in a pouch round his neck, and longs for the day when his families lands will be returned, but knows that's not likely to be in his lifetime.

Any commments or criticisms? Happy to flesh out more as required.

I would be interested in this. When is the deadlne for submission?

So Tieflings are ok, but as Michael pointed out, expect to be treated like crap

James, I have not set one…honestly I suspect it will be when I have 4 or 5 submissions that are good and intriguing.

In this case you really do need at least one adept so you have some healing since the odds of finding a wand of CLW is slim.

cloth it looks like you have 5 traits…and where is tactician from?

also please include in your backstory how the government of west crown hs wronged you. This is vital as it serves as your reason for being willing to attend the meeting of concerned citizens that opens the AP.

NOTE this does not mean you must be chaotic, in fact one of the organizers is a paladin.

Point blank shot is a feat. I'll check on source of Tactician when I'm back at Hero Lab desktop. I think that leaves me with 4 including campaign.

Tactician is from Ultimate Campaign.

yes that is just 4, i was looking at your crunch on my phone and misread cloth yard.

So now accepting submissions officially for CoT.

I will be accepting

1 Warrior
1 Adept
1 Expert
2 Wildcard

Mini, would you be ok with me reskinning the Freedom Fighter trait as follows:

You've developed a reputation as an outspoken advocate of the people of Westcrown. You gain a +2 trait bonus on Diplomacy checks. This bonus becomes a -2 penalty when dealing with the criminal underground of Westcrown. Diplomacy becomes a class skill for you.

Normal is
You've developed a reputation as privateer who fights for freedom. You gain a +2 trait bonus on Diplomacy checks. This bonus becomes a -2 penalty when dealing with slavers or those who support the slave trade. Diplomacy becomes a class skill for you.
Source: Pirates of the Inner Sea

That's fine michael!

Dotting for interest. It's late now I'll do one up tomorrow.

Thanks Mini! Pending equipment, here is Auði Jaw-Jacker.

Auði (short for Auðin) is a part-time actor and the owner and barkeep of the Jaw-Jacker brewery and restaurant in Rego Scripta, famed for its hot-spiced infusion of rare Minkaian spices with Ulfen brewing...at least until Auði refused to pay protection money to a bunch of criminals a month ago. Now the dottari have closed his doors over his supposedly "dangerous" ales. Its the final straw for Auði. For years, he's been putting up with having to save his patrons from the shadows that stalk the Wiscrani night or overzealous Hellknights. Now his very livelihood has been interrupted and after a couple weeks of trying in vain to negotiate the byzantine bureaucracy of Westcrown, he's a frustrated man and ready to talk with some other concerned citizens.

Auði's masterwork item is a beaten pewter tankard (+2 Diplomacy) said to have been one of the famed 23 tankards polished off by Cayden Cailean himself before he passed the test of the Starstone. In happier days, Auði won it as first prize for his Spicy Peanut Sauce Penne and Dragonmead combination at the Karhal Park festival five years ago.

Auði is also a huge aficionado of Chelish opera and the Westcrown theater scene. While his first love is brewing, he actually has quite the talent for singing, acting and storytelling as well and performs every chance he gets. He's picked up a few magic tricks from other performers over the years and perhaps his tankard really does have some connection with Cayden himself.

Mechanically, Auði is an Expert 1/Adept 1. I'm planning to take him along the Adept chain and if he eventually gets class levels they might be in cleric or bard or maybe inquisitor...we'll see. He'll be something of a virtuoso. Lots of skills, a few that he's really good at. Definitely a help in social situations, but we'll see about combat.

Hope you like him!

Audi is awarded the first wild card slot

Also this campaign tops out at level 13 I believe. So for planners keep that in mind

Planners?!? Planning in a Mini GM game? Thanks for the spot Mini!

I have an adept submission coming up shortly.

Do be do be doo

Lirandra is the daughter of the famous operatic dancer Lilandra "The Lily" Voralius. She grew up in the shadow of her mother, the unwanted result of the dancer's wild life of excess - a life of parties, drugs, casual relationships, and a life that a young daughter would never be welcome in. Lirandra always tried to be what her mother wanted, and trained with the best dancing and singing coaches money could afford, developing a talent for singing, dancing and acting that threatened to rival that of her mother.

It was only a short year ago, when she was 15 years old that, during one of her mother's wild parties, Lirandra's life changed. Darelen Thrune, a minor scion of the House, stumbled drunk into her bedchamber. Left bloody and sporting a vicious scar which now mars her once perfect features Lirandra's career is over before it even began and the government of Westcrown will do nothing. After all, the bribes have been paid and none wish to work against the House of Thrune.

Will be working out mechanics shortly - but intend an expert specializing in perform skills. Not sure on the Masterwork item but the Campaign Trait will be "Child of Infamy" - Does the extra 300GP from the trait still count? or only the 500GP you initially assigned? - not that it matters, 500GP should be more than enough.

The trait will garner you an extra 150

Pretty much wbl will be about half or less, though with masterwork pretty much being the top you get unless it is found...

Lately I have been really interested in low powered low magic games. Magic items are rare and cannot be bought all over the place.

Is anyone interested in playing either of the two AP's above with the following build rules

Stats 16, 14, 13, 12, 10, 10
Traits 3+1 campaign
Classes (this is where we get crazy) NPC classes. To offset the power difference characters get to start at level 2
Gear: 500 gp
Races: all common races. Ask about others, but things that are unusual will be vetoed
Hp: max at first half+1 thereafter
Alignment: no evil
Posting: 1 per day (note I am on PST)

Now looking at these restrictions I know that players are underpowered. To compensate I will adjust monsters as needed. For example DR will be lowered to make fighting things possible. There will also be teamwork feats granted to the party as we go through. This is not for everyone and might not be for anyone, but that is what I wish to discover. I love a good challange

dotting for interest.. i had to debate things in my head whether i got involved in this *lawls* Ive done a campaign like this before, though we got pc levels at 5 not ten. I assume you are okay with minor nobles?

Yes I am fine with that, of course I would expect some aristocrat in there if you were to be a noble. As to when I PC levels show up I don't noble. It could be 5, 8 10, or never honestly. I just have to see how it goes. My initial thought is to open it at 10 which would mean the last 3 levels or so could be PC

I do get the +2 bonus for being human I suppose? or the stat array as it is. I meant to say above I assume you are not okay with minor nobles, but then i read down a bit and saw you were only looking for experts, adepts, warriors and wildcards... whatever that is *lawl*

whelp i will gladly aritocrat then sounds fun to be a disenfranchised young noble. will have something up within the hour i would imagine.

Aristocrat would fall into the wildcard area. Basically, anything with aristocrat levels or a mix of NPC classes is going to fall wildcard. The others would be single-classed - two levels of warrior, adept, or expert.

Audi is correct in his description of what wildcard means.

And yes the stat array is before the racial bonuses and minuses thanks for asking