Just on my way to work, will post again when i get in. Consider me to be moving quietly with the group nursing my wounds until something happens.
Not sure what to do about Varos, Haterivet is still on full HP and his loyalties are certainly more solid than mine.
And it seemed like such a straightforward trial too...I guess that's what I get for being hasty. Good luck to the remaining players. And, just so you know, the platforms are a lie.
Hey, no one knows that.
Sorry, didn't mean to reveal something no one should know. I figured that actually using the knowledge was so impossible it wouldn't matter, but I didn't mean to overstep. It's been a long day for me.
Is he dead or dying? just curious, don't know how to get him up even if I stabilized him. Unless my perception checks reveal something. in which case I *might* try.
edit, went and looked at hp, since I healed people before he jumped he should be at -6 if just hp dmg alone.
btw thank you Quain for your assistance but I would already be across at that point.
ten rnds to cross minus however far my launch off the platform took me.
Kor is not dead, he's dying.
Not sure I follow? Did not we just see Kor go through the platform, like it was an illusion? At least we know that the one square, G -25 is insubstantial, right?
And what metal did we see Kor try to grab?
You saw him pass through G-25, so you can think illusion, insubstantial, the ethereal plane, it's all the same. He reached for the platform at G-24 but couldn't hang on.
wow I get ninja posted alot in this game, thats 9 ninja posts today.
I'm not in a rush to get across btw, those rolls can be spread over whatever time period is required.
I'm off since i have work early tomorrow but i will check in again in the morning. Let me know if i need to make any other rolls.
Good luck again all, seems Kor might make it if this chain plan works.
Just to reiterate, I came in second there, did I not?
Yes, but in case you missed it, I changed the rules to make it easier for myself that only the first person receives a reward. If that was not clear, you can have the use of your spell-like ability back.
So was Gaza able to use a healing surge before we were transported? She had mentioned doing so and I wasn't sure if she still intended to.
Going to be using the old potion mixture rules will you? (For fun and explosions!)
Going to be using the old potion mixture rules will you? (For fun and explosions!)
Where was that rule, I sort of half remembered it?
1st or 2nd edition (getting old(er)) Had some charts for effects if you drank potion while under the effect of another potion.
Sometimes was good things... sometimes bad things..
Gaza mentioned using one when you arrived on the platform, didn't see any other mention.
So that note is all we get? I mean, even harry potter got clues.
Wouldn't know, never watched Harry Potter! :)
On another note, Morgthar, will give you till tomorrow at 9am EST to post/participate in this trial. You disappeared for a 3 days at the beginning and did not participate at all in the chain link room. I don't want a player like that for the campaign anyway, who's going to post sporadically. Not fair to me or the other players. So no response by tomorrow and the character commits suicide. Not trying to be harsh, just keeping it real.
Are you sure? I had this pegged as coming from severus Snape's trial for the Philosopher's Stone.
Seriously, rode the ride in Orlando but never seen any of the movies or read the books. The idea comes from one of the challenges in a Challenge of Champions mod from Dungeon magazine, that involves potions. I amended it, of course, made the solution different. The issue involved using a mirror to determine the answer.
But of course that isn't the solution here in a room with no features and full of people with nothing but rags.
How could a mirror be the solution? Only vampires react to those, not spells or magic.
I guess Im just too logical, of course I dont know the setup either so..
Wish I had dungeon magazine, that sounds like an interesting article/adventure.
1st or 2nd edition (getting old(er)) Had some charts for effects if you drank potion while under the effect of another potion.
Sometimes was good things... sometimes bad things..
First edition Dungeon Master's Guide, page 119, Potion Miscibility. I don't want to violate any board rules by posting the text, but basically if you mix two potions or drink one while another is still in effect, you roll percentile dice. It could create an explosion (yes, internal if you drank one after the other!), poison you (no save), a more mild poisoning, cancel one, the other or potion out partially or entirely, have an opposite effect as intended, or combine well to either improved effect or expected benefits. Sometimes I miss the fickleness of the older rulesets when game balance was hardly such an intense focus as it is now.
Means the answer is to obviously 'thunderdome' all the potions at once.
What could possibly go wrong?
Just on the train on my way home from work. I cannot read my PMs on my smartphone due to issues with the website layout. I'll probably have a selection PM sent over within the mext hour or two but i do have some family bits when i get in.
Thought i'd keep you up to date.
Thanks!
Arggggg! I feel like Schrödinger's cat. Can someone please open the box!
Remember, the check is in the mail.....
My only regret is not getting to type another speech.....
If the poison doesnt kill me the suspe..."gurgle, gasp" falls to the floor.
LOL...just want everyone to get a fair shot before revealing the results.
Arggggg! I feel like Schrödinger's cat. Can someone please open the box!
Its a pity none of us actually played a wizard...
I do currently feel like Schrodingers Barbarian, i can be either raging or dead, but not dead and raging. So until the box is opened i'm raging dead!
thankfully its kind of my bed time so i'll find out in the morning weather i died or not.
So what are we still waiting on? Is there still someone who hasn't made a choice? I'm just curious.
I think i've you've made a choice which is "final", ie. correct or dead, then you don't get a response until everyone has made a "final" choice.
This is only because justified and catelyn got asked for a second choice and i did not, so i assume they got sickened and i am either alive or dead.
Correct, some potions only sicken you and you get to pick again.
So now that I'm dead, could someone illuminate to me as to what the trick was there? I was seriously at a loss.
Okay, the 4th Trial had 2 possible means of reaching the solution:
First Solution to puzzle:
On all the pedestals to the first 3 trials were references not to the deity but the month that particular deity represented and its position in the Golarion calendar. Except for this Trial which was dedicated to the goddess itself and made no mention of its position in the calendar. Therefore, logic mandates that Desna represents Desnus, the 5th month in the Golarion calendar and therefore, the correct potion to pick was number 5. Four of the eight survivors picked #5 on their first choice, so their reward was full heal, if they were missing hit points and +2 hit and damage for the 5th Trial. Quain responded with the correct answer about 2-3 minutes after I posted the Trial, so I thought it was too easy at first.
Second solution:
For an observant/curious person, it should have struck you as odd that 7/12 of the potions were poisoned. Not half (6/12) not 3/4 (9/12) but 7. I hoped that would lead you to deduce that 7/12 colors listed had something in common. Red, blue, orange are primary colors and the other colors: Gold is yellow, Emerald is green, Lavender is violet. At least with these 5-6 colors, you should think about the colors of the rainbow and blue-violet is indigo. Now that you know which ones are poison, you can pick from the other 5 knowing that at worse you will be sickened and at best you will reach the answer (beige) by process of elimination.
Unfortunately, three players guessed incorrectly and I thank them for their participation.
Ahh, then that's my fault for not being versed enough in the Golarion calendar. I thought about why this one was named after Desna, and that the others were months, but I didn't realize she had a month named after her. Oh well, good luck everybody else I suppose.
Can other players give me their thoughts on the puzzle? On a scale of 1 being unfair and 10 being very fair. Even if you guessed and got the answer right. Be frank as I am looking for an honest opinion if the "Trial" was fair or not. Thanks.
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I did notice that the first three trials were named after months and this one was named after the goddess. But I have never even seen the months of Golarion listed anywhere and had no way of knowing what they were. I do not own books on the world setting.
I guess its somewhat sour grapes but I find it less than satisfying that you tested my in game character on my ooc knowledge of a game system. I am amazed that so many people responded correctly. I salute them, and would like to hear how they all came to that conclusion.
I wish everyone a good game. Maybe we will have a chance to play together again.
If you understood Golarion lore, it wasn't that unfair. The usage of a clock creates the theme of chronology while making the subtle hint that all of these must be months of the year wasn't that horrible It gets confusing however when you realize the colors in this mode of thought are red herrings as they don't apply to the answer.
The color pallets, on the other hand, are a lot trickier. I realize the idea behind using primary colors, but the correlations between Gold and Emerald and Lavender and Violet are not very fair. I was looking at the primary colors, but realized that there were only two stated and dismissed that train of thought. Maybe it would have been more helpful to have a picture? I don't know. It seems most people got this one so it wasn't a huge killer, but I died in it so I've got to rate it worse on principle. :p
I'd say 4/10.
I feel really torn here. I don't want to diminish the success of those who guessed correctly and I really don't want to come off as childish in light of the mature reactions of those who have already fallen.
That said, I have to agree with justified. I didn't get the riddle at all. My loss. It went completely over my head. However, I did think it was a little sad that all the other puzzles were obviously tests of the abilities of our characters while this one was purely in out of character test (i.e. there were no knowledge or ability checks allowed to see if your character might know the answer even if you didn't).
Bottom line I have enjoyed my time in this campaign, I applaud those who made it to the final round and I hope to see all of you in the PBP world again someday.
Fairness: 3
All fair points, thank you.
Well, the lack of a reference to a month did really jump out at me. (Truth to be told I did have to ask GM if Desna had a month.. since it seemed that our beloved host seemed to flaunt how he was devoting our suffering to the gods...)
Stuff that I think is possible via a character's ability to say.. "Be able to know the months of the year". So I don't think it would have been handicapping any character without say.. a decent int bonus or knowledge (XYZ).
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I agree with Caetlyn. I thought of both primary colors and the colors of the rainbow but eliminated both because they were not there.
Interesting that you provided the names of the colors, even though they were not labeled. Had you provided the colors we might have named them green and yellow and purple and realized that 7 colors of the rainbow were present and then poison.
That was the unfair part. You told us the colors and then expected us to assume they were something else with no visual reference.
If I provided the colors instead of the names, then that leaves open the interpretation that what someone thinks is red they call crimson and then they never get the connection for that reason because crimson is not part of the rainbow. I also couldn't list the colors by name. If I would have put indigo,everybody thinks of the rainbow. And this was supposed to be the secondary solution. The primary one was the missing month.