
GM Valen |

Not sure if it is 1) the fact that this is an old and popular season 0 scenario, 2) nice weather over the weekend, or 3) an overly demanding post-rate under Game Expectations, but this table did not fill up as quickly as my last core. I will post again in the recruitment thread in Flaxseed.
How do you all feel about proceeding with a 3 player table + pregen?

GM Valen |

Welcome, all!
The table appears to be mid-tier at present, assuming everyone plans to play with the PC proposed in the Recruitment thread.
Please discuss among yourselves and let me know what tier we will be. Then post over in Gameplay thread.
Once all PCs have posted in Gameplay, we can go ahead and get started.

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I've never played up before, but I've heard stories of scenarios where you "definitely don't want to play up". I'm assuming this is not one of them. I think I'm happy taking the risk with Cazlin and doing high tier. At the very least it'll make for a good roleplaying experience as he "learns from the pros" as it were.
Any thoughts from anyone with more experience?

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Welcome, all!
The table appears to be mid-tier at present, assuming everyone plans to play with the PC proposed in the Recruitment thread.
Please discuss among yourselves and let me know what tier we will be. Then post over in Gameplay thread.
Once all PCs have posted in Gameplay, we can go ahead and get started.
I'd prefer to play the higher tier.
It seems like the easiest fix would be for Cazlin to play a pregen...if you were so willing. Or we could just go for it, and hope the dice roll in our favor.

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Ya it’s your call, I’m pretty sure I can frontline so ranged from the back would be your safest option at lvl 1. Otherwise ya it’s limited to core pregens

GM Valen |

@ Travail - Should be corrected and everyone should now have access.

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Just don't expect much melee help from Khellek. A few words of inspiration and a couple of corrective comments is about his melee limit.

GM Valen |

Sounds from your description Valen that the primary difference here is that we should pay careful attention to our positions on the map at all times, to make sure they match up to the current actions in text. That sounds like standard operating procedure to me. Is there another way to run a dungeon crawl? We can talk in discussion.
It probably is SOP for you (and most others). I've run a pseudo-dungeon crawl via PbP that I became somewhat frustrating for me and the players, trying to figure out who was where. The Outpost game I played (from which I lifted the above text almost whole cloth) went much more smoothly, so I decided to cut and paste what worked there, hoping it would in this case as well.

GM Valen |

I may not be updating much over the weekend due to Father's Day. Happy Father's Day to any parents out there!

GM Valen |

Sorry for the delays. Family events. Then computer issues. Working on post now.

GM Valen |

4,4,3,3,1=15/5 players =APL 3 right? I think with a season 0 we still play up because they were still written for 4 players back then.
The PFS guide doesn't give us the choice because it is an early season scenario: "Scenarios in Seasons 0 through 3 were designed for four characters. For these scenarios, if the APL is between subtiers, a party of six or seven characters must play the higher subtier. Parties with four or five characters must play the lower subtier." (Guide, pg. 11).

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If it would be better, I can switch to a 4th level pregen so that we're not between tiers. That way there doesn't need to be any backtracking or restarting in another tier.
(Also I'd feel guilty dragging people down a tier when the party is all set for the higher subtier otherwise)

GM Valen |

Okay, so I reached out to the Venture-Agent and was given this response:
"I can think of a few possible solutions:
1. Restart the battle. If you're one round in, this may be doable.
2. Keep the same rolls, but change the bonuses and ACs and everything and renarrate everything that happens for your players.
3. Keep everything that has happened so far as it is, but now change to the proper enemies. This may involve enemies now just spontaneously dying if they are out of hit points with the lower tier stats.
4. Finish this fight at the subtier you're playing, but in later fights use the proper option.
Since they are APL 3, they should be OK for any of the options. Also, the list of enemies is the same between tiers, which makes it easier to do whichever option you feel is best. You can certainly also consult your players as to which they want."
So, I will put it to a vote. Plurality wins. In case of a tie, I will cast the deciding vote. Please choose option 1, 2, 3, or 4. Once there is a decision, then I will my best to get us moving forward again as soon as possible.
But please note that I will be out of town this weekend, so do not expect any Gameplay posts from me between tomorrow (Friday) around 4 pm (US Eastern time) and Monday morning around 10 am (US Eastern time).
Sorry, again for the oversight. I am appreciative that it was pointed out now rather than later.

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I vote for whichever option puts us in high tier.

GM Valen |

I vote for whichever option puts us in high tier.
Unfortunately, none of the above options would put us in high tier.
Presumably, the only ways to convert this to a high tier game would be to: 1) add another player or 2) have a lower level PC switch to a level 4 pregen.

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If it would be better, I can switch to a 4th level pregen so that we're not between tiers. That way there doesn't need to be any backtracking or restarting in another tier.
(Also I'd feel guilty dragging people down a tier when the party is all set for the higher subtier otherwise)
Looks like we have a volunteer....

GM Valen |

Cazlin Summerweft wrote:Looks like we have a volunteer....If it would be better, I can switch to a 4th level pregen so that we're not between tiers. That way there doesn't need to be any backtracking or restarting in another tier.
(Also I'd feel guilty dragging people down a tier when the party is all set for the higher subtier otherwise)
When I put the question to the Venture-Agent, she responded as follows:
"You are right that adding a 6th player would mean playing high tier. In terms of a player switching to a pregen, a level 3 character switching to a level 4 pregen would not be enough, your level 1 character would have to be the one to switch. Then your APL would be 3.5, and the players could decide whether to treat the APL as 3 or 4, so you could do high tier. I can't come up with any more ideas for you, unfortunately."
So, yes, for us to play in the high subtier, we need to add another player or Cazlin would need to switch to a level 4 pregen (sorry to put this all on you, Cazlin).

Lini #121 |

Conveniently, there are prewritten BBcode pregens! Lini is ready to go. Let me know if you'd like to do any kind of in-character switchout or if I should just start posting.

GM Valen |

No problem. I'll make the switch. Just give me a moment to set up an alias for the Lini Pregen.
Cazlin, thanks for stepping up!

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Nicely done. And you can still provide the credit to a level 1 character if I remember correctly.

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only if he takes it as the very first chronicle, otherwise he gets the credit once he hits 4. but either way, lets continue!

Lini #121 |

One thing I'm not sure about since I don't use pregens very often: do you have free use of their consumables, or do you have to pay the equivalent cost of anything you use using your chronicle gold?
I may or may not have chosen to play Lini on the sole basis of loving the particular art for her in the avatar I currently have chosen. And now that I look at her prepped spells, she doesn't have too many that are applicable indoors.

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You are stuck with her spells, however feel free to use her consumable all you want; I'm sure we will be using Kyra's wand a lot

Lini #121 |

I'm really confused Travail, how are you getting two attacks after moving?

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GM:
Detect Evil (Sp)
At will, a paladin can use detect evil, as the spell. A paladin can, as a move action, concentrate on a single item or individual within 60 feet and determine if it is evil, learning the strength of its aura as if having studied it for 3 rounds. While focusing on one individual or object, the paladin does not detect evil in any other object or individual within range.
I believe I get the full info on the figure's potential evilness.

GM Valen |

I believe I get the full info on the figure's potential evilness.
Correct. Edits coming

GM Valen |

I'm traveling this week for work, so my posts will be sporadic. Will try to check in once a day.
Save travels, Travail!
Do you want to leave botting instructions in the event you get hung up and can't post within 24 hours?

GM Valen |

I will be away for most of tomorrow, July 4th, so next GM update may not be until sometime July 5th.

Lini #121 |

Enjoy your 4th of Julys if you're in the US folks :>

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My sons birthday :-)

GM Valen |

Sorry everyone for the disappearance, work's been killing me of late...
Glad you are still with us. Hope workload is improving.

GM Valen |

My sons birthday :-)
Well, then Happy (now belated) Dependent's day (as well as Independence Day!)
I have 3 dependents myself--ages 10, 8, and 4. Birthdays at these ages are fun (but can be a lot of work)!

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Party for Mr 11 is today. I know what you mean. Mine are 13 (next month),11 and 9. Luckily the eldest is getting to an age where taking friends to the movies is a good option for a party. Yay.

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Work has been terrible! In other news, it's MY son's 11th birthday this week too. It's too bad we don't all live in the same town, we could have a geek fest.

GM Valen |

Enjoy your time with your son (and keep your job!). I too would love to spend more time seeking out with buddies, but kids and job make that tough even without bthe geographic limitations.
I am grateful for the opportunity to get some geek in via PbP and glad we've out together a good group for it. Hope you are all enjoying the scenario as I am!
Happy weekend!