@Tityanna-
By the way, thanks for making my life difficult. Harsk is exactly the type to truncate names and be lazy about pronunciation: Hald, Mala, Ray...and Tity? Would Tityanna be thrown off is he just grumbled out "Anna" instead?
Does "T1tties" exist in a fantasy setting? I mean, "boobs" is a modern convention as well, isn't it?
Anna is fine, I suppose, although...You're not going to know that in character until you try. :P
Of course, in character.
Whether the conventions are modern or not I am a slave to those social forces which reside in my head now. :-p
One thing I hate is having advanced knowledge of the NPCs. There's more than a few I can't wait to see in action. I know that my cleric went for one early, and much later on came by someone who was much more... suave.
WEll I am glad that Harsk is such an appealing figure so as to make all of the NPCs seem like substandard choices! ;-)
I don't see any half-dwarfs on the list of playable races. :P
It is track that I have gone down before, with a different character. But lawful good on lawful good loving will be quite... strange. *laughs*
With the watch-order in place, is there anything else the PCs want to do before bedtime?
Dance around the fairy circle and summon impish monkeys to terrorize the dwarf? Nope.
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Finish shoveling, help feed the animals, brush down [biiger]Puck The Wonder Pony[/bigger], then go to bed and shift restlessly every time I hear a wolf howling in the distance.
Dance around the fairy circle and summon impish monkeys to terrorize the dwarf? Nope.
If you can provide the fairy circle I can probably get the monkeys...
Alright, Tityanna: make a Perform (dance) check out in the grass, followed by a summon monster spell, if you have it.
Suddenly being able to summon demons doesn't seem quite so weird...
And just think, it is early yet in the adventure ;-)
I don't see any half-dwarfs on the list of playable races. :P
That's right, you get full dwarf every time. Part of the race's charm.
It is track that I have gone down before, with a different character. But lawful good on lawful good loving will be quite... strange. *laughs*
And yes, I think you are right about that.
With the watch-order in place, is there anything else the PCs want to do before bedtime?
Harsk will actually inquire if the Leveton's have a small anvil or forge set up (for shoeing or anything like that). I have this vision that Harsk basically does some hammer work and "dwarf calisthenics" every night/day as part of his ritualistic preparation for spells and such. Very "hands on" (I prefer Eye of the Tiger or You Got the Touch for my montages thank you.)
That's right, you get full dwarf every time. Part of the race's charm.
*laughs uncontrollably*
I will remember that the next time my 17 year old noble lady who worships Erastil decides she needs a partner to warm her bed at night :P
The Levetons have a small anvil they keep in the stable, but no forge--any metal-heating must be done at the firepit. In all honesty, Oleg generally purchases any metalwork from various merchants, as he's not a blacksmith himself. Any anvil-work he does do is for emergencies only (which is fortunate, since I'd imagine that a small anvil and a firepit would be substandard, compared to a true forge).
That's right, you get full dwarf every time. Part of the race's charm.
*laughs uncontrollably*
I will remember that the next time my 17 year old noble lady who worships Erastil decides she needs a partner to warm her bed at night :P
AAannnddd that is what happens when you don't look at the other characters vital characteristics :-p.
By the way, I can't help but notice that you have not noted as on your character sheet and I just think that might make him feel bad... : D
Fixed. Puck the Wonder Pony is still in spoilers.
;)
Well, if nobody has any objections, I'm going to go ahead and move us along in the IC thread. However, it must wait until morning, as I need to retire early tonight. I'll see you in the morning! :)
No objection here. Eager to be robbed of some wholesome naivete, and not in the way that Master Ironback has suggested. *laughs*
That's fine, Ray. Such is the nature of PbP! :)
As a heads-up: I will be "rolling" (via the board's dice-roller-function) for Survival checks and Fort saves due to cold exposure when applicable, which will apply to all those keeping watch. I've taken all your relevant modifiers into account, including the Endurance feat (or lack thereof).
For those of you without either cold-weather outfits or a winter blanket, I've decided that the Levetons lend you a winter blanket for watch-keeping purposes (it can be pretty cold at night in the Stolen Lands, especially in the early spring); everyone will get a +5 to their Fort saves as a result.
The cold will affect all shifts, as I've generated weather and determined that the low temperature of the day is below 40 degrees F.
Harsk and Malaswyn, you may want to invest in either a cold-weather outfit or a winter blanket before you head out to explore (although such cold-exposure checks should cease occuring as the year progresses).
I hope everyone's okay with that! Personally, I like making poor feats like Endurance matter. :)
As an edit: I'm assuming your respective watches were in one of the towers, or a similar location to easily see the lay of the land. If, instead, you were keeping watch by the firepit, feel free to disregard any nonlethal damage/fatigue you might've accrued due to failed rolls. I'll leave it up to each of you to decide where you were. :)
Really? negative to stats as well?
You can't sleep that stuff off!
A Sorc is probably NEVER going to be able to pass whatever DC you've made and you're effectively punishing one of the weakest classes in the game for existing in a harsh environment.
Until told otherwise, Ray is going to think all of his spells are ansers to prayers. He's actually starting to think he's a plaything of the gods.
Totally fine, Ray! BTW, good call on the endure elements. If Tityanna or Haldaval has similar abilities, they may also ignore the cold exposure.
Really? negative to stats as well?
You can't sleep that stuff off!
A Sorc is probably NEVER going to be able to pass whatever DC you've made and you're effectively punishing one of the weakest classes in the game for existing in a harsh environment.
The fatigued condition only lasts until you warm up and heal the nonlethal damage accrued. I'm not sure what you mean by "whatever DC you've made"; the DCs are listed on pg. 442 of the Core Rulebook. As far as punishment goes, I'm not trying to punish anybody. Tityanna did in fact make one of her saves, and only took 3 points of nonlethal damage. If you remove the damage, you're golden.
That said, upon closer inspection I noticed that Tityanna took the pre-sunset shift; the temperature shouldn't have dropped by too much during her shift, so we can assume she never had to make the checks. So, don't worry about it.
If you're wondering, I'm using random weather generation. Weather rules are in the Core Rulebook, so I didn't think I'd get flak for using them. Am I being unreasonable?
I'm really not picking on anyone. I'm not gleefully rubbing my hands together as the poor PCs are beset by weather penalties. I suppose I like a little weather in my games; perhaps many GMs don't use those rules.
Still friends?
If you all would rather I not use weather rules, I suppose I won't use them. I guess I'm a little mystified that there's resistance to it, since I use them in my home games. If you'd like, voice your opinion concerning implementation of weather.
EDIT: Not using them, however, makes certain spells and Feats pretty much useless (like Endurance or endure elements); to me it's always seemed to be a no-brainer to use weather in-game.
Yeah. I told my group I would not bother with that stuff, since they're pretty smart people and it would bog down an already slow process of PbP. At table, I see it, you make a roll, the party cleric gathers everyone together and expends a channel energy in the morning and most everyone should be okay.
I've enough money to purchase some furs from Oleg. Had I known you were going to implement those rules, I would have Tityanna wearing them already.
Eep, strike that, cold weather outfit. Hope Oleg has one of those.
Mostly it came as a shock because I thought we started later to avoid this type of stuff, and then *Bam! Your sorc has taken damage while on watch!*
I think it might have been a joke, but I'm not sure. I actually like the weather rules, though until now I've only ever seen them implemented in my Serpent's Skull game.
I suppose she might've been joking; she does use a little sarcasm, from time to time. Any official word on that, Tityanna? :)
It's fine to use weather, I have no problem with it.
I don't think I'd be ok with Tityanna just standing there in the open, especially if Oleg and Svetlana are getting to safety before we start fighting. Also, that will be highly suspicious.
@Tityanna: Well, it is early spring, but night-time temps may drop from time to time (winter would be much worse). I went ahead and gave everyone a +5 to the roll; either you already had cold-weather outfits/winter blankets, or Oleg lent you a blankie.
Again, I'll stop using the rules if you all want me to. Is this going to include the possibility of wind effects? I'm curious.
EDIT: Yeah, I've been ninja'd by Tityanna. Time for some breakfast! :)
It's fine to use weather, I have no problem with it.
I don't think I'd be ok with Tityanna just standing there in the open, especially if Oleg and Svetlana are getting to safety before we start fighting. Also, that will be highly suspicious.
1. The weather thing is fine, I agree that my only caution running and playing PbP is that we are as clear as possible about it being a factor so as not to bog down play. Maybe each day Rhys you could post a sort of "Weather Report" as to what we think the day might hold? (Modified in accuracy by Survival checks?) I'm not sure. On one hand I love the whole struggling with the elements thing as a narrative element but given the amount of time that passes in the AP that can be a lot to track on a day to day basis.
2. Haldaval- I think the timing is less suspicious when you think about it. They ride in, there is a few seconds of chitter chatter, they think things are fine, a signal is given Svetlana exits and Tiyanna stays which would sseen weird but they will turn their back to her and look at you as you ride in. The time passes quickly and by the time they realize she is "out in the open" they are either giving up (Ha!) or we are starting to crush their skulls. You may even get one or two of them surprised for oogling the pretty lady. In character? Harsk is all about people getting "forged" through doing this kind of crap, his chivalry is probably a little lacking compared to Haldaval in this context.
Harsk made my point better. Had I been aware, I would have been properly prepared. It was an unpleasant surprise. Now that I have been informed, I am alright with us using the weather rules, and I will be outfiting my character appropriately for such occasions.
And yes, Tityanna will be in the open, even if the party paladin is uncomfy with it, because that's her character. We could argue about it if you like, but short of physically restraining her, or sending her to her room like a child, she is going to have her way.
[typing with my mouth full]Harsk, that's a valid point. Okay, I'll use weather as a narrative device, but not keep track of each dip/rise in temp (unless y'all want to run around exploring in the dead of winter). So, please disregard fatigue/nonlethal damage due to last night's cold.
That's one thing about rules-heavy games like Pathfinder: I'm not really sure what some GMs use or what they don't, and there are so many rules that it's difficult sometimes to select which to keep and which to handwave for a PbP.[/typing with my mouth full]
Yeah, Haldaval's not going to be happy letting the smallest, youngest, and least armored member of the team just hang out in the middle of the bandits... not to mention she's a woman :).
I had assumed she would be hiding, and come out into the open to fight, which Haldaval would still not be happy about, but wasn't going to press the issue during planning.
If that is the plan, I can make up an IC post to deal with it :)
Ideally, we would't be attacking right away... it would be better if the bandits were dismounted, oleg and svetlana had time to get away, and they all had a load of furs in hand...
GM Rhys, I was originally going to be hiding outside the fort, and come riding in. But if I can remain hidden easily in the space you've put me, that's fine too.
Haldaval will not accept the idea of Tityanna being the only one in the open with the bandits to start. The way they would likely behave with a new young woman stranger is exactly what Haldaval would be trying to prevent.
If you are set on it, you could of course, do it without my knowledge :) Haldaval will be pretty angry about it later, of course :)
[typing with my mouth full]Harsk, that's a valid point. Okay, I'll use weather as a narrative device, but not keep track of each dip/rise in temp (unless y'all want to run around exploring in the dead of winter). So, please disregard fatigue/nonlethal damage due to last night's cold.
That's one thing about rules-heavy games like Pathfinder: I'm not really sure what some GMs use or what they don't, and there are so many rules that it's difficult sometimes to select which to keep and which to handwave for a PbP.[/typing with my mouth full]
Something I did in IRL Kingmaker is basically I rolled weather way in advance and really only used the crazy results to break the monotony of things or to establish broad trends like (mostly rainy for a week, expect these penalties unless you prepare) but that can be a lot of up from work for the GM. I am flexible. I mostly wanted to sleep in my armor everything else is gravy ;-)
On the issue of when rules are or are not used I found this to be a fascinating article:
When Using the Rules...
Your comment Rhys is spot on, everybody uses the rules slightly differently it can be hard to know what people expectations are or are not.
@Haldaval: That's cool; I'll position you outside the fort. Everone else okay with their positions?
Ah yes. I rolled the random encounters for my PbP ahead of time, and made note of each on a Word Document. Took about an hour, but... you know, it's something less I have to roll for later.
I did the rolls by hand, btw. And I reserve the right to change stuff if my players think it's becoming monotonous. But... travel is pretty crud, especially in woodland hexes without encounters.
Is Oleg planning to stick around, or hide? In my original plan, he and svetlana would be outside, ready to flee if necessary.
Are we going to close the gates or not? Who would do that? Sorry, if I'm confused. Of course, my character would have expected everyone to do as he laid it out, but if then everyone does their own thing anyway... Haldaval will have to learn.
Oleg will stick around, if you'd like him to, as not to arouse much suspicion that anything's amiss; Oleg insists that Svetlana hide in their bedroom, however.
Last I remember, you were planning on leaving the gates open upon the bandits' arrival, but possibly shutting them to bar the bandits' escape.
He should be there to welcome them, but he could leave when they are loading furs, making up some excuse.
This won't make as much sense if Tityanna is there, though... especially if they act the way I would expect them to act.
I expect some hair dragging and forceful kissing before being subjected to physical assault on the cart :P
I assumed that the trap would be sprung before that point though, as fights are subject to initiative *laughs*
I think my impression was that with Haldaval basically standing in or at the gates entrance in the fort, he effectively blocks exit unless they really want to let him put a sword into their sides as they try to ride past.
If closing the gates is a priority then I could be not in the furs but rather hiding off to the side and attempt to do that.
I can't imagine that Oleg and Svetlana are only robbed when they are alone? Does one girl easily hand waved as a cousin or employee suddenly make these guys act crazy irrational? Even -if- they do, that provides an opportunity to hit them while they are "off". Guys getting off their horses to harass the girl, the girl who can wrap them up in giant plant tentacles (don't think about that one too hard), are still easy pickings and should still be dutifully surprised when you ride in and say "Forsooth and hark ye villains!" (I like to imagine that is how Haldaval talk when he is being all "Paladiny" :P). Ultimately we want to throw them off, we get to that end either way. Is it SAFER for her to not be visible? Yeah. But she has something to prove, and that makes sense to me.