Yeah, a fight to kick things back into gear or somesuch.
Killing gulls is bad luck. Curses a ship never to see land again.
Thought that was just the albatross. Gulls are like flying rats.
Gulls are the lost souls of sailors my friend. Those that died with no land in sight.
Post is up me hearties!
Jesal, a tactical encounter involving gulls, albatrosses, blood sacrifice, and voodoo dolls or something more realistic? >:D
That sounds really entertaining but I'd settle for some good old fashioned brawling :)
Post up guys!
Those of you wanting to kickstart your pirate hearts with some action, it will be coming soon! Just waiting on the first night to wind up for you guys!
Moving to discussion now is time to figure out who becomes captain either by mutual agreement in this here fine thread or by some sort of contest in game... Thinking something of the lines of whoever can impress the crew the most in the final showdown (killing our beloved non goblin captain Is pretty much a given). However this is ultimately up to a goblin riding a robo shark sea/sky god's discretion...
Ok, everyone, Sparrowshanks is putting on his Big GM Cap of Authority.
Now, there is an unresolved issue that I would like to nip in it's bud sooner rather than later. It's in regards to who will be captain! Well, IC character captain, because we all know Sparrowshanks is the real captain! Now, the issue has come up before and I was wanting to get the matter resolved before we progress, despite captainhood being a ways off.
So far, Iggy and Temerith have thrown in for the position. Is there anyone else wanting consideration? More to the point, how does everyone want to go about determining the future captain? Vote, diplomacy check, me rolling digital dice to determine the captain or what? I refuse to back any specific candidates and would like to solve this matter while remaining the impartial judge I'm supposed to be in party decisions.
What say you all?
I personally believe that, as far as in character goes, Iggy's "jack of all trades" and teamwork-enhancer role as an inquisitor, good Intimidate check, and status as a faithful of Besmara makes him the more logical choice as a captain.
As far as in-character goes, Charlotte has some amount of trust in Iggy, while she only sees Temerith as "that freaky possessed guy."
As far as out-of-character goes, my apologies, Temerith, but your tendencies to take freedoms with the plot beyond what is normally expected from players makes me somewhat apprehensive. (I do not believe it is the place of a player to declare the existence of a trapped treasure cache somewhere around and tell the DM he's free to explain it off, or to create vast swathes of mythos without DM input.)
I personally believe an OOC decision may be relevant here, given the large impact on the campaign of who becomes captain. The final decision, however, might be best done as an IC vote amongst the party and major NPCs, (with players able to influence the NPCs, of course)
Basing the entire decision on a skill roll strikes me as far too luck-based and arbitrary.
Well, Charlotte pretty well summed it up, in my mind. I think that Iggy has shown cunning, intelligence, and the ability to take the necessary actions to put them in a good position to take over.
I think Temerith is a good sort, IC, but has too much ego regarding his fellow crew mates and their intelligence.
So yep, my vote would be for Iggy, even if I weren't playing Iggy. I absolutely abhor the idea of rolling. That's far too mercurial and such for an important thing. It also would make sense for the majority of the PCs to decide.
For me, it cannot be a dice roll. It should be about earning the position through demonstrated leadership and influence. I agree with Temerith that it should come down to who influences the best. But the people you have to convince are the other PCs not the DM controlled NPCs. They should swing with the PC choices.
Jesal is not interested in leadership nor am I. I do that in my day job, would prefer to he a supporting cast in this fantasy.
Jury is out on my vote IC, since we've barely been on the boast a day. Jesal can be bribed ....
I assume this is certain, but I wish to restate it and put emphasis on it:
Several members of our party have social skills, but remember: You cannot use social skills to influence another PC. You cannot force a player to have his character side with yours with diplomacy, or force him to fear you with intimidate.
I agree with Salt, it's all about influence.
For what it's worth, Charlotte has ambition, but isn't driven to make herself the leader. However, she may rise against a leader who she feels doesn't credit her enough for what she does. Assuming she's well compensated, she'll be more than happy to act as a speaker. Most likely, Charlotte would try become the "Plugg" to the new captain.
Except for Plugg ass-ness?
I meant in position and role, not in personality. I don't expect Iggy or Temerith to turn into Harrigan, either.
I meant that she would most likely try to maneuver herself into a secondary leadership role, as the "face", so to speak.
She's a much better face than Iggy would be. I mean, Iggy isn't exactly pretty boy, friend of everyone.
As for what I think should be the method of captain determining I believe we should go with the traditional standby...gm what does the pirate code (roughly) say in regards to who becomes captain after a mutiny?
Pretty sure that went to the most feared/respected person remaining.
Is everyone speaking of actual pirate code or Shackles pirate code? Those are two different things indeed!
it depends on gm preference, although I believe the shackles one was based on real life pirate codes so the two are linked if not exact...
I'd like to hear what the Shackles code is, since we are in the Shackles. :)
And, of course, what Besmara's take on rules of the sea are. :)
In the real world, it was generally the ringleaders of mutinies that could keep the group cohesive or those who were exceptionally charismatic. In the Shackles, it's anything goes. Does that answer the question somewhat?
And just so everyone knows, I'm referring to a trend with real world pirates, as there is no 'one, true pirate', as befits their nature. Look at Singaporian, Mandarin, European, Carribbean, and African pirates and you'll see vastly different styles.
Yeah the Chinese pirates were in particular terrifying...there should be a Asian version of the adventure path. As the Chinese pirates were basically ruling over hundreds and sometimes thousands of ships (the Chinese pretty much invented the concept of "organized piracy").
:) This is going to be very interesting to see what happens. I think that it might be wise to have a vote, after the mutiny, by the PCs (not including Temerith or myself) on who they wish to lead them. If it's a tie...well, I don't know what we'll do.
Just seems like it'll give time to make a very important decision. :)
If it's a tie, we'll have to settle it with a good pirate duel. (With all the cheating and follower interference that this entails.)
Well, an RP situation has come up where it would be better to resolve it now. If everyone wants to put it off until later, I can make an accommodation.
Well then, it might be best to put it to a vote. :)
I personally vote for the situation to be resolved via an influence game, the captain will be selected at the end of this via a number of votes from both pcs and important npcs (by important I mean npcs that would actually have a character class, in other words the grunts wouldn't be voting).
Well, I vote for myself! I'm not a candidate, but I'll throw my Sparrowshanks a vote!
Sparrowshanks cannot be both the IC AND OOC Captain! That breaks my willful suspension of disbelief! O.O
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Not to mention breaking my fragile psyche!
What if I threw in robo sharks and made you an offer you can't refuse? >:D
Just kidding, of course. It would be utterly hilarious though!
More psyche breaking!!! O.O
Oh, and I'll get you a Hypnopottamus with a waxed handlebar moustache, levitating sedan chair, and swirly rainbow eyes that is also a psychiatrist once your mind breaks! Then I'll invent a tommy crossbow and distribute it amongst my crew of Doppelgangster servants who all take the form of Miley Cyrus and twerk enemies to death!
BEHOLD MY POWER!!!
*Maniacal laugh!*
In all seriousness though: votes?
ANIMATE PASTRY!!!
Extra XP!
HOW DID YOU KNOW IT'S WEAKNESS?!
SUMMON 1,247,321 HD VORPAL BUNNY! CHEW ON THAT!!! :D
Everyone else log off?
*Charlotte walks in*
*Charlotte sees the mess*
*Charlotte walks out*
Hey! Hey now! We need a vote! Especially from one of the few sane ones of this bunch! :P
No VOTE, Ms.Charlotte? Very well, I conjure up the vilest foe you've ever faced to force you into compliance... SUMMON POLITICIAN IX! You have to vote or we will lobby your front door for hours! MWAHAHA!
NOOOOOO!!!!! Not that! Charlotte! You MUST vote now! To save us all! It'll eat our souls!
AND YOUR GOLD! I WILL TAX YOUR GOLD, SISTER, SO PLACE THAT VOTE UNLESS YOU WANT ME EATING BABY KITTENS ON YOUR GP!!!
Too much caffeine? :D
Ha! Your americian politician summon cannot affect me, for I am Canadian!
Still, I will vote... I vote for...
THE MONKEY IN CAP'N JACKSON'S AVATAR!
Beware Charlotte! Not voting will cause a massive catastrophe in Washington, DC during this year's elections...the Tea Party will be voted in...
It's a baleful polymorphed monkey, Charlotte. You've voted in Plugg as the new captain. Thanks....:P
THERE WILL BE NO TEA PARTY WITHOUT THE MAD HATTER! Fribble, just fribble, dribbling all over the place. Titter tatter goes the Hatter, a pattering of pastries! Or was that yesterday's tomorrow? Who knows in Wonderland (American politics, also known as Blunderland,)? WE'RE ALL MAD HERE!
Being Canadian does not excuse you Charlotte! You must vote or you blaspheme against baseball and the American way, because our politicians say so, hoo ha! I jest of course! Or do I...?
Dear Ignatius, how can that thing on your captain's shoulder be Plugg? It's turned backwards!
Oh you're right, Cap'n! It's not showing its ass all the time!
Precisely Mr.Hank! That and it's not a complete ass!
Just so things are clear, my actual vote goes to Iggy.
All due respect, Temerith, I believe you'll make a good advisor, but the Inquisitor of Besmara is the best fit for the leadership role.