Foxy Quickpaw's - Shattered Star AP

Game Master Foxy Quickpaw

Sheila Heidmarch sends the heros after the Shattered Star.

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Kitsune Game Master

Cheetah's are mostly harmless. They don't have much weight, they can't jump at all and they are afraid of almost all other predators in their habitat.

Right know your kitty cat would probably love to disappear in a hole in the ground.


Indeed


Kitsune Game Master

I know a guy who is expert on that area (zoo-animals) and he told me that in zoos the cheetahs have so high fences that the stupid antelopes don't jump in from the neighbouring areas and to keep the humans out. For the cheetahs it would be enough to do a four feet fence.


Cheetahs are very specialist animals. They do one thing, but they do it bloody well. Running


Kitsune Game Master

You're through with that for the day? Because then I'll continue with Tauriell and Abomentolor.

Or do you want to continue with the party?


Kitsune Game Master

Yes. Last time I checked they still held the title for fastest land animal. So don't lose it. Your chances to catch it again are really slim.


I think we are done with Hoid for a while


I am off to a dinner now. Will stay on my phone as much as possible


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

Back


Kitsune Game Master

Still here.


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

I saw


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

Just get rid of the rolls. It is good for story


Kitsune Game Master

What do you mean get rid of the rolls? So far they're perfect.


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

When I first read Abomentolors post I thought it was supposed to be in return for the theft. So his perception failing made that not make sense. I then read again and realized it was about her comment


Kitsune Game Master

Good night.


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

Good Night


Kitsune Game Master

Good morning


Kitsune Game Master

And now for something completely different.

I always wondered if creating classes can be made a more straight forward process. I really like the ARG where you have the point buy system to create new races.

I really hoped to get something similar with the ACG. Well, duh. I tried several time to come up with one of my own but so far to no avail. Do you know of something or do you have an idea how to get that done?


Kitsune Game Master

There are:
Full BAB D10 pure fighters. (fighter, gunslinger, ...)
Full BAB D10 fighters with 4 level casting
3/4 BAB D8 fighters (rogue, monk)
3/4 BAB D8 arcane 6 level fighter/caster (bard, magus, ...)
3/4 BAB D8 divine 6 level fighter/caster (inquisitor, ...)
3/4 BAB D8 full divine casters (cleric, druid)
1/2 BAB D6 full arcane casters

Assuming the fighter (without all the bonus feat, weapon training and all that stuff) is 10 points. How much would you give to the others?


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

I have seen a full system for this before. I am now trying to find it


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

Not exactly the one I was thinking of originally. But a point buy class system that seems decent


Kitsune Game Master

Hi there. I'll take a look as soon as I have unrestricted internet again.


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

Another

Another nother

Those are all the ones I can find right now

I will chat to you about them later then :)


Kitsune Game Master

I'd like to be able to build a character starting with an idea and then adding the matching mechanics. With the existing system you get features you didn't want but will change the character as you can't afford not to use them.


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

I agree with you on the reasoning. Later today we can have a fiddle around with it


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

Just got home for about half an hour then off to do some tutoring again


Kitsune Game Master

Then you're gone again now :(


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

I will be now

Will try be on my phone though

Decide which of the 3 systems you want to try in the mean time?


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

Out the car for a while


Kitsune Game Master

I looked at the systems and they all have some issues. But some of them are good for a laugh. The first one assumes all classes are basically worth 1000 points. And to keep that up the rogue tricks are worth more than the fighter bonus feats. One feat less and less choice nets more point value. Yay.

The endless list of different things also makes it hard to handle.


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

They are all starting points though. And honestly. Who would ever pick rogue tricks


Kitsune Game Master

Class construction Engine is also funny with the sorcerer and the wizard having the least points. For they are for sure the weakest classes in the game :P


Kitsune Game Master

I would. I like them. At least a few of them. Well. One. Wall Climber.


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

Well we obviously can decide on points ourselves.
Of all of them, which is your favourite


Kitsune Game Master

I don't know. I think the best you can do with all of them is checking what numbers they put on things and go with replacing stuff like the archetypes do.


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

You can build from scratch with them
Hmmm


Kitsune Game Master

They are built to be able to do that. I just don't believe they are really good at that. Also they seem to do core only.


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

They give a basis we can expand on though.


Kitsune Game Master

Ok. Sugest a class for Tauriell.

120 - D10
160 - Full BAB
180 - 8 Skill points
20 - Light armor
60 - Martial weapons
250 - Spells as bard
250 - Fighter bonus feats

1040


Kitsune Game Master

Would never fly under the normal rules given for class building in the ACG.


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

That isn't over powered really though, is it


Kitsune Game Master

But that is again limiting and the value given to the things nudges the decision in certain directions.

Doing that without points in mind.
Mostly a bard without the singing and all that stuff I can't remember anyway
Keep the Bardic Knowledge.
And the casting.
Martial Weapon proficiency
Something to add some flexibility like a bonus feat now and then.
Something to make the damage dealt less lackluster


Kitsune Game Master

It isn't overpowered but it combines six level casting with full BAB D10 and it only has major class abilities. None of the smaller ones.


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

It might be a bit much.
But it is only as much as as a Paladin has
4th lvl spell casting, full BAB, smite, aura's, immunity, amazing saves.

So when you think of it that way it is good.


Kitsune Game Master

Cool thing to do would be building it as a D10 full BAB class with 4 level casting + cantrips at first level. Six skillpoints, bards class skills. Spontaneous casting. Evasion. Improved evasion. Bonus combat feat on second and every four levels. Trapfinding.


Kitsune Game Master

Pally has to be LG. That is counted as some serious minus points in the point buy.


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

Let me try do you what you want with one of the other systems:

3/4 BAB 1 point
2 good saves 2 point
d10 3 point
Adept: 14 class skills 6 + int skills 3 points
Squire: bonus feat at 1st 2nd 5th 9th 13th 17th 3 points
Light combatant, light armor and 1 exotic, 2 martial, all simple. 1 point
Bardic Knowledge 2 points
Basic spell casting 4 points

total 19 points

Suggested is 20


Kitsune Game Master

This system hasn't the orisons separate no?


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

Let me try build yours exactly quickly

Full BAB
3 points
Two Saves
2 points
d10
3 points
6 skills and 14 class skills
3 points
4th level casting and cantrips
4 points
Master: You gain bonus feats at the following levels: 1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th, 8th, 10th, 12th, 14th, 16th, 18th, 20th
6 points

Total is 21 points
has everything you wanted

But is not spontaneous, if you want spontaneous you need 3 more points

24 points.


F Azlanti Pally 8 ___ HP 63_____2 Negative Levels

Basic spell casting includes orisons

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