Rinn Laddel |
Hmm, we don't have anyone who knows disable device, do we?
Well technically Rinn can have access to any skill, spell and a whole slew of special abilities. Its all a matter of choosing the right spirit.
Kenderella Lefuriel |
I guess the trickster spirit does indeed potentially give you disable device. Though it still wouldn't give you the ability to deal with magical traps. And wouldn't that prevent you for getting one of the other spirits, for example champion for combat? Someone with decent dex putting a rank in it just so we can get through simple locks (it can't be done untrained), might not be a bad idea, but I guess it's too late to change now :p.
Even after reading most of the class I'm really not sure how the medium actually works. Don't you need to find an appropriate location in order to channel a spirit? Though it also seem like the spirit grants most of the benefits to allies as well, rather than just yourself.
Kendrella certainly doesn't know how it works. I'll just refrain from studying it so I can be as surprised as Kendrella when you use your abilities ;).
Rinn Laddel |
Yea I have to find a suitable location to gain the spirits benefits. Though its very vauge as to what counts, for instance, the champion spirit has the "Places of violance" line. Now, that could mean a lot of things and most of the time it will probably come down to the GM to tell me if I can find a place or if a place counts.
It also takes an hour... So yeah its very much a "first thing in the morning" ability.
Kenderella Lefuriel |
An asylum is a place of learning and study for archmage, it's a place of violence for champion, it's a prison for guardian, perhaps a place of worship (to the outer deities) for hierophant and probably a trap filled location for trickster ;). Of course some of those definitions might be a stretch, but you might be lucky that we start in quite the versatile location for your abilities.
Kenderella Lefuriel |
I much prefer that links are posted either in the header or directly under the GM alias where a player normally have stats. The later is my preference. Saves quite a bit of time navigating, especially on mobile.
Jayson Sunfyre |
Agreed on that point. They're much easier to get to as a GM header. Sorry for no gameplay post. I'm not awake enough to fire one off. Will post in the morning.
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Dervak |
If the cell door counts as cover, it would apply a -4 to Dervak's attack but also prevent any AOO by the "nurse" from him attempting a combat maneuver (grapple).
Kenderella Lefuriel |
The stats for summoned monsters seem to not match up very well with the current version of the rules. The dog got +0 bab and +1 str, yet it's attack bonus is listed as +2, I think it should be +1. In the universal monster rules you'll find the following:
...If a creature has only one type of attack, but has multiple attacks per round, that attack is treated as a primary attack, regardless of its type.
Yet the pony's attacks are clearly calculated as secondary. Maybe they were calculated using 3.5 rules or an earlier version? Either way, I think they should be primary, putting the total attack bonus at +2 rather than -3.
Dervak |
The dog is Small, that's the other +1.
And ponies have a special quality in their Bestiary entry
Docile (Ex)
Unless specifically trained for combat (see the Handle Animal skill) a pony's hooves are treated as secondary attacks.
Kenderella Lefuriel |
Great to have that cleared up :). Turns out it was me that didn't factor in everything :/. It doesn't matter in this case either way as it'll be bull rushing instead.
I'm on the phone atm, could someone find a pony picture and put on the map? If not it'll have to wait until I come home.
Kenderella Lefuriel |
Any penalty to AC applies to CMD as well, however a penalty to ability checks would not. I assume you meant the former rather than the later?
Kenderella Lefuriel |
Sadly, I believe light requires a divine focus to be cast by a warpriest. Or do you have one of the fancy ways to not require a holy symbol, like the birthmark trait or having the symbol as a tattoo? Though as Sarenrae is the goddess of light it would make a lot of sense if you could cast that spell anyway ;). Imho rule of cool should work for such things.
Awesome start so far from everyone:).
Sorry for not getting stats and such underneath my alias. I've been rather busy. I'll try to find some time before long.
Kenderella Lefuriel |
Evil eye usually lasts 1 round even if you save against it (extended by cackle). Is this thing immune to mind-affecting things then?
Theophilus Carter |
I just seen the post.
Does Theo realize "she" saved (I assume) or that it didn't affect "her"?
It would last a minimum of 1 round, plus cackle extends it additionally.
DM Cuc |
The attached was at the pony but it was no longer needed brcUse Dervak grabbed her first. I don't remember how long does the pony last? I know it's longer than the normal spell right? And Rinn you are good to not have to take an acrobatics check, she is grappled.
Once everybody posts their second turn I will post.
We aren't using damage threshold. When you guys take damage I will usually let you know. When I originally posted the dam for the pony I thought it only lasted one round.
Kenderella Lefuriel |
The summons last a minute per level.
Summoning is a really weird for a summoner. It's sorta the backup plan compared to the eidolon, yet it's more than powerful enough to focus on if that's what you want to do.
Jayson Sunfyre |
Thanks for pointing that out, Kendrella! You're correct that Jayson shouldn't even be able to cast spells without a divine focus...though it seems our illustrious GM agreed with you about the "rule of cool" since he let the flashlight fly anyway. Not gonna catch me complainin'!
Kenderella Lefuriel |
I just realized I should probably have intimidated to demoralize with my action instead of using guidance, it would make it harder for her to break the grapple and +5 is a decent bonus. Though our characters aren't us, they won't do everything optimally all the time ;).
Evil Eye is a weird hex. The duration we already touched on. As long as the witch keeps cackling it'll last basically forever even if they make their save. Still, it'll only affect 1 thing, making it a weaker effect than something like sickened or scared. However it can be used several times against the same target, eventually affecting all the different things it can affect.
@Vlad: I can't make sense of the way you are listing skills. What does 4/2/1 for intimidate mean for example?
Dervak |
Well, if Dervak's 27 Intimidate check didn't seem to faze the creature, I don't know what would.
Kenderella Lefuriel |
I assume that was to influence it though, not to demoralize. I imagine that's quite unlikely to succeed as long as we are behind bars.
DM Cuc |
Kenderella thank you for bringing up the pony's attack, in my earlier error with evil eye I completely missed that the pony attacked her and did damage. I really need to get back in the swing of things here lol, promise will get more on top of things. I will update everything around 12ish when I have lunch at work.
Dervak |
It's not unusual that a PbP poster might be away for a day or two. Still, given that the odds seem to be against us in this fight, every possible action would help. A cantrip, an Intimidate check, and so on.
If we are going to move this fast, then perhaps there needs to be a plan for how to bot each PC if absent.
We seem to be on Round 3 now (Dervak grappled, then pinned, then bit), and Vlad hasn't gotten to take an action. Maybe just away for the weekend.
For future reference, if I am absent, Dervak will use Intimidate or his attacks as best as possible, being happy to be on the front lines. I would ask that nobody else have him Rage.
Kenderella Lefuriel |
I agree, I much prefer that absent PCs are botted rather than delayed, thought I've seen both options used in the past. I find that setting a rule for when you are botted also help as it might feel a bit uncomfortable if you are botted or skipped without expecting it. Absent for 1 or 2 days, potentially not counting weekends is what I usually see.
You can't take AoOs while grappled, so no AoO provoked from maintaining I believe. Do you really provoke from maintaining anyway though?
Also, bite is +2 damage since it's your only natural attack.
If a creature has only one natural attack, it is always made using the creature’s full base attack bonus and adds 1-1/2 times the creature’s Strength bonus on damage rolls
Dervak |
You can't take AoOs while grappled, so no AoO provoked from maintaining I believe. Do you really provoke from maintaining anyway though?
No, not from maintaining. But the thing broke free, and I was saying that if Dervak had tried to re-grapple on Round 3, he'd have provoked, so that's why he didn't do it.
I do have to keep that Pugnacious trait in mind. Could be a way to do combat maneuvers without provoking 1/day.You are right on the tusk attack; should have been +6 Str bonus on damage for 7 total.
Vlad Mirwood |
@Vlad: I can't make sense of the way you are listing skills. What does 4/2/1 for intimidate mean for example?
sorry, this is how i put my skills :P
the first number is the ranks+ any class bonus, the second number is my ability bonus, the third number is any other bonuses.I put my skills like this to help myself keep track of where things come from, so in case i loose my Dex bonus or such, get drain from somewhere, or have an item that gives me a bonus.
since the DM usually doesn't have to look at these, I keep track of them like this. It's a habit of mine.
Vlad Mirwood |
Kenderella Lefuriel wrote:Hmm, we don't have anyone who knows disable device, do we?Well technically Rinn can have access to any skill, spell and a whole slew of special abilities. Its all a matter of choosing the right spirit.
I can also disable device, I have a trait that allows me.
Kenderella Lefuriel |
Sweet that you have disable device :). Sorry that I missed it. Now Rinn won't have to use her spirit on trickster just so we can have someone able to disable traps. I guess it won't work for magical traps, but hopefully we'll be able to use dispel magic for that if needed.
Would it be too much trouble to list your total stat first (like I do on my sheet)? That way DM Cuc won't have to do any manual calculations if he's rolling a skill for you. I do largely prefer that the GM rolls passive skills like perception and sense motive (which is why I have them listed in my header), that way they can post the result of what people see/learn only if anyone actually succeed on the check.
Kenderella Lefuriel |
Usually a summon disappear right after it's reduced to 0 hit points. Kendrella does not have something like summon good monster. Though I'm not going to ask you to change things after the fact. Certain enemies do like to overkill.
This enemy seems quite strong for something we are meant to fight without gear. +8 to attacks even after being reduced by 4 by evil eye and demoralize. Or did the demoralize fail? Again it would be nice with some indication of if she is affected or unfazed by the attempt.
Kenderella Lefuriel |
My intention was to put the eagle to flank with Dervak, to replace the pony. However it's kinda difficult to edit the map from my phone.
Dervak |
It's the first encounter of a horror adventure path. It should be extremely hard. I think we will be able to bring it down after an epic and memorable battle.
We might like to have Vlad's staggering touch to cut her down to only 1 attack per round.
Kenderella Lefuriel |
That domain power coupled with staggering critical is kinda cool.
Jayson Sunfyre |
I think I did that damage right. I have weapon finesse, so I should be able to use my dex instead of my str for the unarmed attack, and I don't think I'd take a -4 for non-proficiency, would I? Not that it would matter on that particular roll...
Dervak |
You'll provoke an AOO for attacking unarmed without the feat. I don't think Vlad grabbed all of the knives...
Kenderella Lefuriel |
Yeah Dervak is the only one with a decent attack atm. But still better to use a knife than fist.
DM Cuc |
I will be moving the post forward later tonight, but I did want to apologize to you guys as I was not running the game fair last night. In all honesty the nurse should have attacked Dervak but I did not want to potentially kill him. This is a tough encounter and I am not a fan of the way they wrote the tactics. My rational in my head was that Dervak was behind her and when he bit her and then got hit in the face with acid she just lashed out at the first thing in front of her, aka the pony. But again I am sorry for trying to "protect" the PCs from dying as I know that can ruin a game for people by my "protecting" the PCs. So I will do my best to be fair and ensure that I am using the best tactics even if it means I may kill one of the PCs. I guess at times I try hard to please everybody since this is almost all new to me again and I just want everybody to have a good time. Again sorry to everybody and I look forward to you guys running this AP with me!