DM Alexander Kilcoyne's Kingmaker PBP- Interlude (Between 1 & 2) (Inactive)

Game Master Alexander Kilcoyne

Also, since the Guildhall needs its own house adjacent to it, it can't be located in its current position.

I suggest placing it opposite the brewery - it is the brewers guild after all. :-D

Are you talking in the same edit: block or the one accross the street?

I guess I can roll stability this month...to start month 10...
Stability 1d20 + 17 ⇒ (20) + 17 = 37

Maybe I should roll all of the stability rolls... :)

I've said before in this thread, a house can only be used once per building, so currently you have no free houses to 'attach' to the brewery. No house sharing.

Malthir the whole map Tanner is showing IS one district.

1BP gained from stability roll.

Okay, just to confirm, we are buying the guildhall and a house this turn?

-37BP if so, and then we need an item roll and then 2 economy checks from some people.

Then a proposal on the next turn as long as nothing really bad happens...

+1 Club generated- 2,300GP value.

We already got one of those, so here comes another auto-sell roll 1d20 + 27 ⇒ (12) + 27 = 39

Followed by an income roll 1d20 + 27 ⇒ (15) + 27 = 42

8BP gained. I have a special event to run in the event phase so hold fire on next month for now.

Event Phase-

Near the end of the month, Vaysh calls for a council meeting. Vaysh explains that she has been approached by a married couple seeking permission to found a town in the Greenbelt. The man is a middle-aged Brevoy merchant, with a down-to-earth look about him, and his wife appears to be a druidess, judging from her flowing green robes and the mistletoe in her hair. Standing before you in your meeting, the man makes his case...

Begging yer pardon, noblemen and ladies of Kardas. My name is Loy Rezbin, and this is my wife Latricia. We seek yer blessin' to found a town deep in the Narlmarches, nor'westerly of your fine city of Swordhaven. We 'ave colonists ready to move there- and with your permission we're ready to begin work on the town. We want to buil' her where the mighty Guar'dian's of the Greenbelt vanquished them there Tatzlwyrms, and we'd like to call her 'Tatzlford'.

Loy Rezbin bows deeply before you all, and his wife curtsies.

This is our dream, my lords and ladies... And should your borders expand to encompass our little hamlet, we'll happily join the kingdom of Kardas and accept her protection. In fact, were you to invest in me and my wife, we might be able to have a fine city ready for you to annex someday... So, what say you?

Loy Rezbin bows once more and withdraws to the far side of the chamber, allowing the council to converse while he and his wife are not in earshot.

Keep discussion IC please :). If you need the effects or anything clarified for you OOC feel free to ask me.

So do I need to move the guildhall and add one house?

Ilya clears his throat. "While I am certain that my fellow Statkari are willing to let you build, a more pertinent question would be if you are seeking material assistance. Do you have the means or the support to build Tatzlford independently? Or do you require largesse?"

Casimir leans back in his seat and swirls his cup of wine casually.

A reasonable request. I see no reason not to allow this, as long as they understand that we can offer them no aid besides trade and a safe place to fall back in case of dire emergency. And the village could be a valuable asset, once our borders expand that far out.

Kalev adds, This land is a place for all who wants to live in peace with his neighbors. I see no problem in you settling in the Narlmarches. We will discuss how we can help your settlement.

So do I need to move the guildhall and add one house?

Ilya clears his throat. "While I am certain that my fellow Statkari are willing to let you build, a more pertinent question would be if you are seeking material assistance. Do you have the means or the support to build Tatzlford independently? Or do you require largesse?"

Loy is brought back briefly to answer this question.

We have the means to found our own village- we simply thought it prudent to seek permission from your kingdom with the understanding that we will be part of Kardas someday, should yer' fine kingdom resume its expansion.

An investment would speed our growth and allow us to be better developed once you annexed our town- but thats an optional thing to consider milords.

Malthir seems to be waiting for all of the lords (guardians) to speak before commenting himself...and looks to Fenna, seeking the Councilor's advice...

So do I need to move the guildhall and add one house?

Add one house below the Guildhouse, across the street and your up to date.

Alex, what is the Hex # they are talking about BTW? I can't remember which hex was that encounter.

Alex, what is the Hex # they are talking about BTW? I can't remember which hex was that encounter.

Two hexes south-west of the Temple of the Elk (assuming that directly up is north).

Ilya smiles to show his approval. "Very well. It appears you have the consent of the Statkari. While we are sadly unable to provide you with capital investment at this time, we will seriously consider the option at a future date when funds are available. We wish you the best in this venture and hope to receive regular updates on your progress."

City MAP

I can assure you, we are both very capable. Thankyou for your time all. We shall submit reports on our progress every six months. Latricia speaks up, taking notes in a small journal.

Ilya smiles to show his approval. "Very well. It appears you have the consent of the Statkari. While we are sadly unable to provide you with capital investment at this time, we will seriously consider the option at a future date when funds are available. We wish you the best in this venture and hope to receive regular updates on your progress."

Echoed my thought exactly.

Ilya smiles to show his approval. "Very well. It appears you have the consent of the Statkari. While we are sadly unable to provide you with capital investment at this time, we will seriously consider the option at a future date when funds are available. We wish you the best in this venture and hope to receive regular updates on your progress."

Malthir speaks up before Ilya can end the meeting with the two good folk, Ilya, pehaps we should spend a little more time considering what they ask before we dismiss their request for investment right away. Loy, perhaps you and your wife can tell us a little more about this dream you have of your town as well as the people who wish to enhabit it? You see we also had a dream, of forming this great Kingdom so we can understand how hard this will be.

After Loy's response, Lords and Ladies, let us speak in private before we give our final answer to these fine folks. Loy, Latricia, please give us a little time to consider your fair request. Also you must stay tonight and be our honored guests.

Quite simply my lords, we've simply always wanted to form our own village and represent it as Mayors- but thats not something easily done in Brevoy. I have dozens of years of experience as a merchant and Latricia has her own special skills, as well as enthusiasm to boot! We want to build an Erastil-blessed community in this brave new land, but this is achieved easier with investment. We did not want to go to the trouble of founding Tatzlford only for you to annex it by force when Kardas expands. As we have agreed, we will willingly place ourselves under Kardas' banner once you expand your borders somewhat.

The couple bow and retreat once more to allow private talks to take place.

Well my friends, I am not sure I disagree with several of you that we can not help them financially. I would at least like to make them think we didn't just summarily dismiss their request though.
Lords of Kardas, not only would it be good to have another town allied to us, but it would be better to have them a willing ally, waiting for us to grow enough to put them under our wing. Ilya, can we afford to spare them anything? We seem to have done well so far, but I know this is a hard month with the founding of the guildhall as well as the letters of introduction to the various merchants we wish to come to our fair city. Malthir is looking for a vote from the Statkari on any BP aid.

Once the Council of Guardians is alone, Fenna turns to speak to Malthir, "Their offer is clearly a good one, by allowing them to grow into a functioning village before we commit to fully supporting them we have all of the benefits with few of the risks."

"The matter of whether to provide them with our backing immediately is a little more complicated," she continues, looking briefly out of the window towards the newly established Brewers guild, "I am sure that there would be some who might understandably object to us spending the taxes of our people on outsiders, but I feel that depending on the actual amount they need, it could be well worth the cost. Currently they are more than happy to join us once our borders reach them, but should they fall upon hard times before that happens, they may well find themselves sorely tempted by offers of assistance from other potential benefactors. By supporting them now, we will surely cement their loyaty to us in the future."

I think a current BP total would be useful :).

I think a current BP total would be useful :).

44 BP start of month 10, +1 BP stability, -37 BP spend, +8 BP Econ check = 16 BP's left in treasury. We need 8 for the pier, which is the next best building we could afford. Can we spare them 2 or 4 BP's?

Once the Council of Guardians is alone, Fenna turns to speak to Malthir, "Thier offer is clearly a good one, by allowing them to grow into a functioning village before we commit to fully supporting them we have all of the benefits with few of the risks."

"The matter of whether to provide them with our backing immediately is a little more complicated," she continues, looking briefly out of the window towards the newly established Brewers guild, "I am sure that there would be some who might understandably object to us spending the taxes of our people on outsiders, but I feel that depending on the actual amount they need, it could be well worth the cost. Currently they are more than happy to join us once our borders reach them, but should they fall upon hard times before that happens, they may well find themselves sorely tempted by offers of assistance from other potential benefactors. By supporting them now, we will surely cement their loyaty to us in the future."

Indeed good advice Fenna, but what do you recommend? Support them or not?

Well spoken, Fenna. I am also not opposed to aiding them. But I would like to see them prove themselves first. I say we pay the village a visit in six months time and see how they fare. If they have managed to build a functioning community, we can provide them with the help to strengthen and expand it.

By aiding them now, we not only risk losing our investment - if word spreads, we could soon be overrun by hopeful city founders looking for a handout before blundering into the wild.

Perhaps a background check on them both, as well as their group of colonists, would be prudent? Sootscales rasps in response to Casimir.

Sorry for jumping the gun. I didn't mean that we had NO money, only that we are trying to build a town ourselves.

I think we should let the remainder BPs roll over into the next turn so we can perhaps purchase another big-ticket building.

If anyone has knowledge: local they can make a check to recall anything about Loy and his wife if they wish.

"My leaning was towards providing them with support, though I can certainly see the benefits of Casimir's suggestion. We should allow them to prove themselves over the coming months, and based on how they perform, provide them with assistance."

Damn, had a long post, got eaten. Sadly, I don't have the time to repost right now (but will do so when I'm back in a few hours), but I suggest supporting them with a minor donation now.

Feels a bit like dragons den :D.

At Jhod's suggestion (who seems keen on Erastil-worshipping Loy), the couple are called forward once more to clarify what kind of investment they are after. Eventually, it is ascertained that they would like a 5BP investment.

Obviously 5BP is a player term, but what they are asking for is equivalent.

My belief is that we should help them, whether it be now or later. Earlier would give them a better chance for success, but later would also help. So the lords of Kardas speak though, I shall acquiesce. We will see how they are doing in 6 months and possibly help them at that time. I count that Cas, Ilya, Fenna voted for later aide, Kalev and myslef for aide now...

BTW, Tradesmen for 5BP's is now the cheapest building we can buy to increase city base value 500gp, +1 Econ & +1 Stab.
Also Pier is only 8BPs now. New Kingdom spreadsheet is posted to start planning next month.

My belief is that we should help them, whether it be now or later. Earlier would give them a better chance for success, but later would also help. So the lords of Kardas speak though, I shall acquiesce. We will see how they are doing in 6 months and possibly help them at that time. I count that Cas, Ilya, Fenna voted for later aide, Kalev and myslef for aide now...

Summoning them back to the Guidlhall:
Loy, Latricia, your request is fair. We grant your request for the use of the land for 'Tatzlford'. But at this time we can not help you with aide. Our hold on this Kingdom is tenuous and we have not the extra funds to grant your request for material aide. In six months we will meet with you and see how you progress, at that time we may be able to offer you more aide.
We can offer you some limited protection. The woods you wish to build in are dangerous, if you need our help, send a messenger and we will do what we can to aide you in your defense.
Now we must dine together and learn more about our new neighbors.

Kalev, perhaps you can arrange for Red-Eyes and his pack to keep a watch over their village as well...

Sorry for the ret-con, I was expecting the discussion to carry on long enough for me to get home.

"Wait," Fenna says as Malthir moves to call the prospective settlers into the Hall, "Perhaps we should follow through with Sootscales' suggestion before passing final judgement on the issue? We could allow them dinner tonight to convince us of their intentions and skills, this will both provide us with a chance to get to know them better, and give us the time to have someone look into their past."

Seems you've reached agreement.

Sorry Fenna didn't see your ninja. Hold fire all!

For when the discussions have finished only!

Month 11-

Item generated- +1 Tower Shield (1,180 value)

I'm fine with helping them, but I just don't think we can spare the BPs right now. I support any and all non-BP forms of aid :)

Sorry for the ret-con, I was expecting the discussion to carry on long enough for me to get home.

"Wait," Fenna says as Malthir moves to call the prospective settlers into the Hall, "Perhaps we should follow through with Sootscales' suggestion before passing final judgement on the issue? We could allow them dinner tonight to convince us of their intentions and skills, this will both provide us with a chance to get to know them better, and give us the time to have someone look into their past."

Fenna, if this might affect your decision then I am okay with waiting to find out what Sootscales and Casimir find out about them before giving them our final decision. Updated original post to account for retcon.

Throughout dinner, you find both Loy and Latricia to be charming, if sonewhat rustic folk. They seem genuine and Loy clearly seems to know a lot about trade, telling many tales of setting up trade routes through Brevoy.

It sounds to me like taking three months or so to let Casimir and Sootscales discreetly investigate the pair is the compromise, then think on it once more? They will found the village regardless.

"It may," Fenna replies, before leaning a little closer, "and I would appreciate the time to look through my old writings for anything that may relate to the situation, Tatzlford sounds very much like a name that could easily be alluded to in prophecy."

You already know the writings seem to reveal themselves when the time is right at the moment- but you could use your new trait which you may be referring to :P.

You already know the writings seem to reveal themselves when the time is right at the moment- but you could use your new trait which you may be referring to :P.

Yep, this seems like a good time to take it out for a whirl.

When Fenna finally arrives at the evening meal, she looks extremely drained, seemingly even paler than usual. Moving across the room slowly, occasionally steadying herself against a chair, she takes a seat with her fellow Statkari.

She looks to them for a moment as though about to speak, but her gaze falters and her eyes begin to close.

When Fenna finally arrives at the evening meal, she looks extremely drained, seemingly even paler than usual. Moving across the room slowly, occasionally steadying herself against a chair, she takes a seat with her fellow Statkari.

She looks to them for a moment as though about to speak, but her gaze falters and her eyes begin to close.

Malthir leans over to the Kingdom's councilor and places his hand on hers, Fenna, are you okay? You seemed drained?

Perhaps a background check on them both, as well as their group of colonists, would be prudent? Sootscales rasps in response to Casimir.

A wise suggestion, Chief Sootscales, and one we will most certainly follow.

Unfortunately, the resident spymaster forgot to take any ranks in Knowledge (local).

Chief Sootscales aka DM AK wrote:

Perhaps a background check on them both, as well as their group of colonists, would be prudent? Sootscales rasps in response to Casimir.

A wise suggestion, Chief Sootscales, and one we will most certainly follow.

Unfortunately, the resident spymaster forgot to take any ranks in Knowledge (local).

Ahem, that is LORD SOOTSCALES to you...

"Hmm?" The gnome replies hazily, trying to focus, "oh, yes I have been... studying the writings I made long ago..."

"it is quite an... intense process to find anything of use... but it does seem to be implied that... anything we do give in aid towards the founding of this village... won't be wasted. With this in mind, if you believe we can spare the resources, I would advise that we lend it to their cause... though if we cannot, I do not believe it would lead to their efforts failing."

Kalev, perhaps you can arrange for Red-Eyes and his pack to keep a watch over their village as well...

I was thinking along the same lines, Akiros. And I will probably stop by on some of my forays into the forest.