Carrion Crown, presented by DM Hamied - Campaign Thread

Game Master Hamied


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Iovanna is pretty tanky, even if her AC is a little lower.

Let's have Cathran be present in the Ravengro town meeting that is currently happening.

Hu5tru:
We'll iron out details, but I think that you and Professor Lorrimor were connected in the past, and you came seeking him when he failed to respond to your inquiry about something you discovered in Mendev. You arrived in town at his home, where his daughter, Kendra, informed you that he had died recently, but that the town was beset by some kind of disaster. She directed you to the town meeting to learn more.

It's a little forced, but we can clean it up. Sound good?


DM Hamied:

Aye, sounds as good as a "hey, there's two new guys here to help you" is going to get.

Could be that he wrote to the Cathran's superiors about some thing concerning the Whispering Way shortly before his death, and they did not know when they sent Cathran with a message in response to him which was basically a diplomatic way of saying "Yeah, we got nothing, either, but this lady may be able to help you."


Hu5tru:
Makes sense. Let's work from there.


Male Human (Ulfen) Oracle 2

DM:

The magical arrows we gave to Hayashi represented the majority of our loot so far, is it being amended somehow? I just figure if Cathran comes in with lvl 2 wealth she'll start better equipped than those of us here since the start...


AK:
Unless I overlooked something, Cathran has the same starting loot that the rest of you do. I will be giving you gear upgrades prior to Harrowstone. Don't worry.


I'd like to welcome Sir Jolt to the game!

In case it wasn't clear, both new characters begin with the starting wealth of first level characters (just like the other four in game). Please know that I'm noting your preferred equipment, and will provide rewards accordingly.


Yeah, I took the average gold, and still have plenty to spend. Str 16 is a bit weak for a tank. Cathran would gladly pay for picking up more useful things like grappling hooks, crowbars and such, so long as she doesn't have to carry her bedroll and blanket everywhere she can actually hold them as well.


I'm not real happy with this avatar but the Gnome and Halfling options for avatars is pathetic. I didn't pick up a lot of basic gear since I assumed that there would be time to buy extra stuff later and, with my mediocre strength, didn't want to lug a lot of unnecessary stuff around.

DM Hamied:
As for Lorrimer and Ustalav, I excpect that it was Lorrimer who discovered Oorin stowed away onbaord the ship as he fled Qadira and didn't turn him in. This would be the debt owed. However, even had he been named in the will, Oorin was traveling so much that any message to him would have arrived late assuming it ever reached him at all. Since the Professer was quite well-traveled, Oorin may have heard of his passing second hand and, out of curiosity, traveled to Ustalav just to see what was going on.

Since he had never been outside of Qadira before, travelling the Inner Sea has been Oorin's life since fleeing. He would have made his way to Ustalav eventually. Oorin tends to be optimistic and fearless until confronted with something firsthand (as what happened with the Bleaching which he now dreads and is determined to never succumb to).

Oorin has an annoyin habit of changing his name if he gets bored with the one he's using. If someone tries to call him by his full name, Oorincunathysin, he'll always insist that they're pronouncing it wrong. This is not his birth name, which he no longer remembers (this does not bother him in the least), just the name he is currently using.

As I have no prior knowledge of the Carrion Crown AP, outside the basics, I'm open to any other ideas or tweaks you want to add in.


Your arguments for posting out of order make sense. Nobody should have to be clicking refresh constantly to be sure when their turn comes up.

Posting out of order becomes problematic when specifying position, however, as available movement/action can change every turn. If somebody isn't able to post immediately (I give 24 hours before I consider them to be delaying), I'd hate for them to feel like they shouldn't take their desired action because an action posted earlier but occurring later would create a conflict. I'd rather have things go slower and have everybody feel as if their turn is being honored.

Still, I'm always a proponent of being flexible towards player needs. If your time is limited and you know you're not going to be able to post for a while, you can post your intended action out of order. Keep in mind, however, that if your action becomes impossible, it will fall to you to amend it on your actual initiative turn. Along the same lines, players with higher initiative should never feel constrained by something that is supposed to happen after their turn. If a square is available when your turn comes up and you want to go there, you should feel free doing so even if it invalidates the action of somebody else.

I'd like you guys to use this sparingly, and do please limit your preemptive actions to the current round. In the past two combats, we've had moments where we had a list of actions for two rounds from one player before we had a single action from another player. I didn't make a big deal out of it, but I'd like the tactical/initiative parts of the game to be more organized than that. I played the first few combats pretty fast and loose, so I consider myself the cause of their scattered nature, but I'd like to add a little more precision from here on out (hence the introduction of grid maps).

Sometimes things might get a little bogged down, but I think that's partially just the nature of play-by-post. This game has taken on a more casual pace, but I think we can keep things moving at a good clip both in and out of combat.

Thoughts?


Well, part of it is being an intelligent player, as well. I thought initially that Cathran would try to save a burning townsperson. She might have made it to the one closest to the stage, but saw that darn near everyone on the stage was closer to him/her than she was and did not feel as though they would let a person burn to death. Second thought was "I shouldn't be standing in the aisle when panicking folk are trying to get out of here."

Other stuff can be worked out here in the OOC. I assume that Iovanna and Cathran get the opportunity to pull a flank train, they will probably try to work that out, or if there is an opportunity for Cathran to step forward and tank, she will do that.


Sir Jolt:
Looks good. We can iron out story details in this thread, but in the meantime, let's get you in on the action.

Oorin will join the encounter shortly; I'll place him at the town meeting as well, though if you thought the half-elves were getting strange stares...

For mechanical purposes, I will consider Oorin to be delaying (from the first round). That means, Sir Jolt, pick a square on the grid and toss your action into the order whenever you get to posting and we'll stick you there in the initiative.

And I agree...the gnome/halfling avatar options are really limited. Lem is a stud though, so you're in good shape!


Male Human (Ulfen) Oracle 2

If it was me unable to post for a time, I would much rather have the DM take an action he feels is in character for Hrolf than have him have the character stand idly for twelve seconds in a fire. It feels forced and doesn't help the games versimilitude at all. Am I alone in feeling this?

FWIW DM, if i'm too slow to post and miss the 24hr mark, please take Hrolf's action for me. I trust your judgement.


Aye. It does seem strange. Plus, with the fires spreading, even if he was just trying to put out one close to the stage, it would be a huge help to the group as a whole. Pretty sure the town won't just be grateful to us for saving their lives if their meeting place goes up in smoke.


Female Half-Elf Witch (Hedge Witch) 2

+1 for DM (or another PC) to bot absent players - standing around doing nothing in combat or other dangerous situations wrecks the flow of the game.


I can take over player actions on the 24 hour mark. Having them delay does feel strange. I mostly have that in place so that you guys don't feel like I'm taking things out of your hands.

I'm happy to make that adjustment if folks are in favor of it.


Male Human (Ulfen) Oracle 2

DM:

Is there any chance I could swap Hrolf's strength and charisma around? The way i've been RPing him i've realised that hes a warrior first and a leader second, as well as thinking about his role within the group. Was hoping it would be possible as its still early days and the group's had some shuffles.


AK:
Absolutely fine by me.


Male Human (Ulfen) Oracle 2

Thanks DM. With his approval, i've switched Hrolf's strength and charisma, just an FYI.


Female Human Housewife/1

Darnit! Where's my CHA 10 half elven inquisitor gonna get her lovin' from now?

*laughs*

Guess I'll just have to get in line with all the other available ladies in Ravengro interested in the sheriff. :D


Male Human (Ulfen) Oracle 2

Well hes still charisma 15 but I felt his RP was more muscle than charm...


Female Human Housewife/1

Starting tomorrow morning, I'll be in transit from LAX to Oslo. Since we're in combat, I thought I would issue some standing orders for Cathran.

Basically, she'll be using her CMB to put out the flames near the door, until it's clear that she does not need to any more.


Welcome to Level 2!

When you're ready, go ahead and roll your hit die. If the result is less than 1/2, you may reroll it (as many times as needed to reach 1/2 or higher).

Also, please post the skills/spells/feats you are taking.


WS- 40, BS- 25, S- 30, T- 30, Ag- 35, Int- 35, Per- 31, WP- 30, Fel- 45, Wounds 12/12, FP 1/1, Insanity 0, Corruption 0, AP- 3 (Body, 4 vs. weapons with Blast quality)

hp 1d10 ⇒ 8

Skills -
Ride, handle animal, diplomacy, sense motive, knowledge religion.

Abilities gained -
Divine Grace, Lay on Hands


Female Human Housewife/1

I am stuck in Cleveland.

This is officially the worst trip ever.


Male Human (Ulfen) Oracle 2

1d8 ⇒ 7

+10HP. +1 spell per day. Magic Weapon learnt. +1 BAB. +1 Will save.

2 ranks in diplomacy, 1 rank in kno: religion, 1 rank intimidate, 1 rank spellcraft.

Level 2 oracle sucks.

Sorry your trips not going well hu5tru


Female Half-Elf Witch (Hedge Witch) 2

Level!

1d6 + 1 ⇒ (5) + 1 = 6

Spells Added: Fumbletounge, Burning Hands
+1 Lvl 0,1 memorised/day
Hex Added: Misfortune
Skills Added: Know: Nature, Know: History, Craft: Alchemy, Know: Arcana, Heal, Spellcraft, Use Magic Device
[b]


I'm currently out of town (in Dayton) but I'll be back home later tonight and I'll post my level up then.

I'm from the Cleveland area and I sympathize if you're stuck at Hopkins; it is one of the most dull airports around. And Fall in Cleveland is basically Winter with rain instead of snow.


Female Human Housewife/1

Awh everyone's doing all these inspiring things after combat, and I'm now in toronto and have another 16 hours worth of in transit time left to look forward to.

Cathran slides up to Sheriff Benjan and puts the moves on him :P

Joking, of course. *laughs*

Or am I just hysterical at this point? Who knows!


HP Roll 1d6 + 2 ⇒ (4) + 2 = 6

Skills Increased Spellcraft (2), K: Arcana (2)
New Skills P: Architecture 2, K: Engineering 1, K: Religion 1

Current Spellbook
--Cantrips All (except any water based spells)
--1st lvl Burning Hands, Unseen Servant, Enlarge Person, Expeditious Retreat, Gravity Bow, Shield, Snapdragon Fireworks, Decompose Corpse

DM Hamied:
This is the first time I've played a PF Gnome and I completely forgot about the Obsessive quality. I selected Profession: Architecture for his obsession even though I think the 3.x/PF skill system isn't really robust enough to justify having a Profession skill. I simply found it amusing.


DM Hamied:
I didn't think about this until I leveled but when I first created Oorin, I did thie first thing I almost always do when making a non-human: I bought up his penalized stat. I don't like dump statting and though I'm not familiar with the AP's very much beyond the general, I've seen some of the pregens for them. In Kingmaker, 3 of the 4 pregens dump-statted Charisma; the Dwarf down to a 6. I would never allow that at my home games.

However, upon reflection, I can think of no reason why Oorin should be stronger than an average gnome. His life has been largely academic, he's a shrimp and there's little to justify why he should be as strong as an average human, IMO. I'd like to drop his Strength back down to 8 and then boost up wither his Wisdom or Charisma (probably Charisma) if that's okay.


Oorin:
Yeah, that's okay. There was some confusion about whether my "no stats below ten" rules imposed during recruitment referred to before or after racial modifiers. Because it wasn't clear, I decided to allow either interpretation. You're not going dump-crazy, so an 8 Strength is totally fine. I just wanted to avoid some 18, 16, 16, 7, 7, 7 fighter coming into the mix.

I'm actually okay with people that want to roleplay such a character, but only if they want to do it authentically. I had a druid once with 7s in Intelligence and Charisma, but he was extremely bestial (and his stats were intended to reflect his concept). He often found himself banished from towns, but he could sure track...


Male Dhampir Ranger (Skirmisher) 2

HP:1d10 ⇒ 4

Combat Style: Two Weapon Fighting

Skills: Acrobatics +7, Bluff +3, Climb +7, Escape Artist +4, Heal +1, Intimidate +0, Knowledge: Nature +4,Perception +8 Sense Motive + 2, Stealth +9, Survival+6(+7 to track), Swim +7


Jaxus, you can reroll your hit dice if the result is under 1/2.


Cathran lvl 2 HP 1d8 + 1 ⇒ (5) + 1 = 6


Male Human (Ulfen) Oracle 2

Have we lost Iovanna?


Male Dhampir Ranger (Skirmisher) 2

Hp reroll 1d10 ⇒ 1


Male Dhampir Ranger (Skirmisher) 2

And again 1d10 ⇒ 6

Woohoo


WS- 40, BS- 25, S- 30, T- 30, Ag- 35, Int- 35, Per- 31, WP- 30, Fel- 45, Wounds 12/12, FP 1/1, Insanity 0, Corruption 0, AP- 3 (Body, 4 vs. weapons with Blast quality)

Just temporarily. The screen on my laptop went dead a few days ago. I had been using my husband's laptop until I can get a new one, but our 4 year old decided to remove every single key from the keyboard on his laptop. It's fixed now though.


Oh, kids.

Sorry to hear about your computer issues. That's never fun to deal with. Glad to have you still.

Hu5tru:
I think I just invalidated the intro into the game that you and I discussed by having Kendra not know you. Sorry about that. It might have made sense for you to attend the meeting first anyway.


Male Human (Ulfen) Oracle 2

DM Hamied:

Can you send me a quick e-mail so I can chat to you privately, seeing as theres no PM system here. Thanks.

alexkilcoyne@hotmail.com


DM Hamied:
Just wondering about the state of this game. There's been only one post in almost 10 days and that was mine. AP's are fun and Carrion Crown is one of the ones I've most wanted to play in (along with Serpent's Skull and Rise of the Runelords). But they're very long, typically going to levels 15-17 or so. PbP's are, by nature, pretty slow moving and to have any chance of progressing through an AP, the pace has to be pretty constant. One post ever week and a half just isn't going to get it done.


Oorin wrote:
** spoiler omitted **

Oorin:
I'm in complete agreement with you. I'm very frustrated, and I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong. I used to post in this thread every day, for months, and at one point, players just stopped responding. I asked if people wanted to continue, and they insisted they did. Weeks later, we were back to the same problem, and somebody (the least frequent poster) quit. I checked again to see if folks wanted to continue, and they said they did. I agreed to recruit new players, and brought you and Hu5tru in. The fire encounter seemed to get everybody involved again, but it immediately lost momentum again after that. In terms of me not posting recently, I have thought about responding to your post with Kendra, but at some point, I need the other players to be willing to interact. I have checked the thread every day, and been tempted to give it a little nudge as I've done many times before, but I kept hoping there's be some nibble, so I've waited. You're right though. It's been too long.

Just a heads up, guys. I will be traveling, starting tomorrow. I should still have regular internet access and should still be able to post regularly, but I wanted to give you a heads up regardless.

Everybody have a safe and happy holiday, no matter which it is you celebrate.


Happy New Year!


Guys, I think it's time to declare this game "dead." I will confess that my heart just isn't in it anymore. It's been hard to get excited about it, because looking at the pacing and the narrative, it's just not been successful. I think that while I enjoyed reading and preparing for Carrion Crown, I wasn't quite ready to wrap my head around the Adventure Path and how best to take the lead on telling the story. Paizo has really put something great together, and I encourage you all to play and/or run it if you can. For this particular campaign, though, it seems the natural time to walk away.

I know I've kind of disappeared, but I would like to be straightforward about the end of this game. I apologize that it's come to this, but I think it's been in the works for quite a while now. I do hope you'll agree with me that we had some fun, and that there were some memorable moments. I still plan to be present on these boards, so I hope I'll have the chance to play with you again.

Best,
DM Hamied


Male Human (Ulfen) Oracle 2

All the best DM, thanks for the game.

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