Ok good I was confused.
That makes sense.
@GM: Still waiting on ok of proposed class and your variant heritage. If problematic I'll just go with something Core...
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ninja's are fine, as there abilities more than make up for there lack of hp and saves imo in this game haha.
I would advocate the ninja, as I think we have a barb or two already, but don't let me tell you what to play! remember, you have more fun, and readily play when you like your CHARACTER, not just the numbers. :P
Got it! Make a nice character.
Ninja it is! Working on it.Any date limit?
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I'm switching Zero to a slayer I want a little more versatility and outside combat use.
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Let me clarify,- the discussion thread is where you will be forming the guild(s) and what not during beta, which you all bought the exclusive beta to have any guilds items and the like carry over to the public launch.
Also, remember the way feats are going to be working. When I get home I will put it all the info into the campaign info.
Keep track of your skill slots!
Also, horn fell, I will keep the pathfinder mechanic of requiring magic items be +1 before other enchantments are added!
So right now we are all playing in the beta release. Ok gotcha boss man.
Recruitment will remain open indefinitely. Apply with a character, a story and PM me and we will fit you into the game.
Also, I would like it very much should everyone who has responded so far to have there characters and stories completed by this coming Sunday. Also, please provide the link of the picture you chose in your profile so I know which to not offer newcomers. Should any mosey in.
Bit of GM bribery, if someone would be a dear and make a list of all the players and there selected class you get free TP crystals on launch!
Character list so far. Also, clicky links so you don't need to hunt for a post by them like I did.
"Zero" Alias of HavocXIII- human Slayer, Two weapon fighter and trap disabler.
"Eria" Alias of CyraXIII- human high armor class duelist
"Hornfell Fujirō" Alias of Maca673- Dwarf samurai
"Talori Lyons" Alias of Tsiron Ragmar human barbarian with a BFS
"Argus Ironeye" Alias of Movin, the angry dwarf archer monk
"Kyle Jongre" Alias of Saltykid, heavily armored shield specialist
"Aurora Blackrose" Alias of Azure_Zero, half-elf two weapon fighter with a dip in ninja.
Ok, thanks GM. BTW I love the concept of the indefinite recruitment.
Corpse eater
Sleepless
Uber perceptive
Hmmm, given he's one-eyed, how about I choose the uber perceptive (+2 to Perception) and it can cancel out a proposed -2 for the eye-patch?
Ooh. Good find, thx Movin.
How about I just reflavor that trait rather than have to spend another trait to get Adopted?
A: Ain't no being raised by tuskers for this tiefling;
B: not sure there are any tuskers in this gameworld...
Ok, thx again. I'll take a reflavored Deadeye or Adopted/Deadeye whichever works for the GM... Given my stellar stat array I'm sure it won't be OP...
What did you have in mind for reflavoring?
Also, thanks for the list! You get 3 to crystals at launch instead of one. (Crystals can be bought for 100g a crystal)
Heh. I haven't been needed in the discussion thread at all yet, lol.
Alright, since this is kinda my thing. If anyone wants their weapons drawn I can do that.
I'm cool either way I suppose.
Ohbya!. For maps i use rolld20.
Cool, Argus has one weapon he uses right now. He has more of them but it seems kind of silly to get a drawing for a weapon I'm highly likely to replace later on anyway.
Greenwood longbow- The bow is effectively a living tree that happens to have a shape as a composite longbow, when given water and sunlight it will grow and recover from damage just like a normal tree growing back to longbow form and no larger. Its useful because the bow recovers at an unnaturally fast rate compared to normal trees. A totally destroyed Greenwood weapon will recover to full functionality in 5 hours.
I'm imagining it as a heavily scarred 5' tall longbow of a darker green/ olive shot through with brighter green pieces where the bow has recovered from damage inflicted on it. It might have leaves or small branches growing off it as well.
Rorek I don't actually have Rolld20, off to go do that at some point in the future
Its simple. Just go to the site and make an account.
What did you have in mind for reflavoring?
How about:
Anim-eye
Heroes of epic fantasy don't need to makes sense, they just need to look way, way cool. Petty realworld considerations such as physics nor story-based constructs such as logic and verisimilitude do not get in the way of your physical handicap.
Requirement(s): Brooding personality, eyepatch, heroic forelock.
Benefit: You have only one working eye, but that eye is especially keen. You receive a +2 trait bonus on all Perception checks involving sight.
Special: You must generate a suitably epic backstory for how you lost your eye, who has it now, what kind of alchemagitechnological reliquary it is contained in and just how you intend to get it back.
GM - Have you decided on a suitably epic name for the game we are in?
Okay, getting there. This is OSW's submission so far. Sorry for the delay.
Can I get a re-hash of the character creation rules?
What wealth/equipment do we have?
Power Attack is free/everyone has it?
Max HP?
Question - I have a -1 Int mod - do I apply that to my skill ranks?
I want to wield a small greatsword in one hand. Possible?
@Khode
Why not just go with a Bastard sword?
instead of the small Greatsword (a medium Longsword I believe).
That was my first thought, but the pic has a ginormous sword. Though if I stick too close to the pic I'll have no armor...
Is it not Exotic? Or it is only if two handed?
And a small greatsword would do 1d10 damage...
@Thanks Movin.
What does this mean:
"swapping skill slots is -, swift for 1, move for 2, standard for 3, and full round for 4. "
I'm sure GM will answer these as and when he can. Or throttle me...
And a small greatsword would do 1d10 damage...
And it would have a big Usage penalty.
Bastard sword in two Hands is a Martial Weapon, to use it in one Hand you need the Exotic Weapon Prof(Bastard sword) feat.
Eh, I'll keep it simple and go greatsword, in two hands, and occasionally fistpump with my spiked gauntlet when appropriate for plot.
well then, someone has complied most of my notes for me! Makes my job a bit easier lol!
as per combat feats- Yes, I will be changing most of them a tid bit to "buff them" and these will beopen to changes during play as I have not playtested these ideas enough to say yes or no on some atm.
some stuff I need to correct-
skill slots are gained every 4 levels, or every other time you would gain a feat, fighters gain a slot every 3 levels.
paladins/rangers and other half spellcasters gain a feat every EVEN level after 4th level, and one extra skill slot at 4th level.
skill slots- Two ideas for this.
1st idea-
all combat feats will require skill slots, all players start play with 2, and gain an additional one every 4 levels. (so you all have 3) fighters start with 3, and gain one every 3 levels, (any fighters would have 4 atm)
you can keep feats slotted indefinitely, but should you have say, weapon focus, power attack, TWF, and Dodge, at 5, (3 skill slots) you could only use 3 of these feats at any one time.
2.
skill slots are not required to gain the benefit of the feat, but only empower it. With this idea, you still Benefit from the NORMAL benefit of the feat, but if you skill slot it, t gains the bonuses it would have from idea 1.
example- dodge and power attack, normally, dodge is +1 ac, but, if skill slotted it increases to +1 per 4 levels. Power attack- normally has a penalty- if skill slotted, this penalty is lowered by 3, to a max of 0.
now, in either form, you can swap slots on the fly, to swap dodge with Power attack would be a swift action, but to swap dodge AND power attack with say, TWF and Iron will (yes, these feats will be considered combat feats for purposes of skill slots) it would require a move action-
note: this is subject to change depending on what I see happening mechanics wise.
Personally I feel the first idea of requiring the slot to use the feat is the best route, it add a different element to the game. Note not ALL feats will fall under the "must slot to use" pretext, things such as, acrobatic, armor/wep prof, stealth, toughness, etc. will be left alone, and given no different treatment than a normal pathfinder game.
any confusion still?
also, as far as the name of the game. Not particularly, do any of you have any ideas?
Confusion....
Um....lots? I'm confusing skill slots, skills, skill ranks and feats I think...
Is ok, I can watch and learn.
Is a +1, light fortification armor 4000 gp (+1 + ability equal to +1 = +2 = 4000gp) Or do I need to add mwk as well?
mwk is added into the cost already.
Skills- are being left alone atm. I doubt I will touch them
skill ranks- same, as per norm.
both are pathfinder, now skill slots.
skill slots- (maybe I should change name to feat slots?)
These are my own ideas entirely in an attempt to represent SAO like "Sword skills"
they will be either a requirement to use a combat feat, or a "buff" for that feat.
skill slots have NOTHING to do with other skills/skill ranks. Think of them as ability buttons. you are "slotting" your feat into one so you can use it, but only have a limited number of "slots"
you stat with 2 at level 1, and gain one additional slot every 4 levels, and MAY be able to gain additional slots through in world quests and/or completing the main arc, or I may use them as tiny "level ups" along with a few other things I have not mentioned that I am considering to try.
What if skill slots were Tome of Battle abilites. Like Movin said? Maybe even leave the normal feats alone and just do that?
Looks like this is most of the Bo9S:ToB maneuvers.
@movin
I had considered that, but given the buffs I am giving to the feats, at level 7, the feats you "need" to twf (better than the original game) are TWF, and improved twf, possibly double slice, which, I was considering leaving a static.
why I like idea 1- introduces something different, and allows for individualization even amongst the same "type" of fighting style.
2-causes things to become more tactical, as certain feats may or may not be useful in a fight, while others more so.
3-Its a quick, simple, and fairly easy way to "kinda" implement Sword skills into the game.
4- it was just a way to limit the buffed up feats :P, its not the BEST idea in the world, it was just simple and easy in a way without messing to much with the normal way the feats worked.
why I wouldn't like it- most of the reasons you mentioned above.
I will look at the ToB stuff, but that is a lot to read through XD haha, though possibly simpler overall.
as for hp regen, I can see that. how does 1 full hit dice + con modifier an hour sound?
as I said, this was a spot of the moment thing after a bit of thinking, and I am unfamiliar with a lot of the DnD stuff as my area never played it much.
as far as weapon spells- I had considered this.... I had a few in mind, but you would need multiple weapon spells per weapon, figure out a way to level them up as you use them (showing increased prof.) ect ect.
I supposed I could just start out with the weapons the players have chosen, but still its daunting. I don't have the most time in the world ya see :P.
that aside, if I don't transfer to this, I may insert it later if I can get things figured out.
basic idea I have for it- 5 "spells" per weapon, now the tricky part- do I set them at 4 level increments? or do I force you too use that weapon for a certain period of time/grind in order to "gain" the weapon spell.
@GM:
* Thanks for the heads up on the magic armor. It is weird that weapons require Mwk first before magic but armor does not.
* Sword Art/Battle slots as a name would help for these "slots".
* So I have three of these "slots" (2 at first, 1 at 4th)? Should I avoid picking combat feats for now, or do the slots merely affect how combat feats operate/are chosen during combat?
* So far, for normal feats I have chosen Toughness. I get another feat at 3rd and another at 5th from normal character progression. These are separate and disinct from the bew "slots" right?
* I also chose Precise Strike as my Teamwork feat. Any campaign changes to that?
Khode- the ideal behind battle slots is that they are used to "use" (or buff) a feat you have. such as weapon focus.
you have weapon focus, in order to gain its benefit you must assign it to a battle slot. (consuming one of your 3 slots) This also come with the bonus that the feats are "buffed" you get +1 to hit with the weapon, as well as plus +1 every 4 character levels. (total of +6 at 20)
I have a list of feats I have changed, its small but I am working on others, this is of course, assuming I use this system, it was my original idea, but time brings new ideas. The reason I liked my original one was because it was simple and easy for me :P.
- teamwork feats, ah. hmm. I will get back to you on that.
Oh yes, could everyone put there selected image as a link in there profile pretty please? I am running short on images and should others wish to join I may recycle and it would be much easier for me to make sure I don't use images already in use if all I have to do is click your name :)
Zero- I am liking the ToB things, we may go with that if the consensus is for it. Though it may trouble those whom wield 2 non light weapons with TWF :P