A Rise With A Difference

Game Master Dabbler

Btw, Gob's comment was in reference to the typo "conversion." I just took the liberty of misunderstanding in character for comic relief. :) I promise I wasn't being flippant.

Ahhh! Now I get it.

Hey Dabbler, Elan's still look 100% human in the updated rules correct? and does their trance look like they are sleeping or do they have to do something special to trance?

They are effectively indistinguishable from humans, yes. What form their trance takes varies, it can look like sleep if you want it to.

jlord wrote:

Hey Dabbler, Elan's still look 100% human in the updated rules correct? and does their trance look like they are sleeping or do they have to do something special to trance?

They are effectively indistinguishable from humans, yes. What form their trance takes varies, it can look like sleep if you want it to.

Just checking. I guess it will look like sleep then.

We haven't lost Dabbler, have we? It looks like he hasn't been posting for a while.

We haven't lost Dabbler, have we? It looks like he hasn't been posting for a while.

Yeah, it been more than a week. He is active with a couple of his other aliases though, so I dunno...

Sorry guys, you seemed to have taken the plot to the Inn for a meal, and I thought I'd see where you were taking it, rather than move the plot along and cut short some RP!

If you want we can move on to the next day ...

I can't speak for anyone else, but Gornak's waiting to hear back from the sheriff.

I can't speak for anyone else, but Gornak's waiting to hear back from the sheriff.

Ditto for Albrecht

I can't speak for anyone else, but Gornak's waiting to hear back from the sheriff.

+1 for Aylmora.

Likewise for Gob. I just assumed the holiday got in the way for you.

Sounds good, lets move forward.

I think this is all of the loot. Dabbler, Let me know if I missed something.

ragged demon book
scroll of burning hands (arcane?)
bottle of wine
wand of shocking grasp (c28)
finely made sword
finely made hand axe
finely made silver dagger.
tiny black silk gown
extraordinarily sharp and well crafted dagger, weighted for throwing.
tiny tiara of silver and gold
An obsidian holy symbol of Lamashtu.
fine quality glaive, made of silver, steel and ivory.
3 ranseurs
Tsuto's Journal
bedroll
rickety old desk? if someone wants it... did we ever check inside it?
valuable commissioned glasswork
1 potion
A finely crafted composite shortbow
A gold ring
A finely crafted thieves’ tools
A finely crafted flute
Pair of silver earrings
What appears to be a journal
6 pouches of gold dust
8 pouches of silver dust
10 pp

ragged demon book
scroll of burning hands (arcane?)
bottle of wine
wand of shocking grasp (c28)
finely made sword (+1 sword.)
finely made hand axe (masterwork)
finely made silver dagger. (masterwork)
tiny black silk gown
extraordinarily sharp and well crafted dagger, weighted for throwing. (+1 returning dagger)
tiny tiara of silver and gold
An obsidian holy symbol of Lamashtu.
fine quality glaive, made of silver, steel and ivory. (masterwork)
3 ranseurs
Tsuto's Journal
bedroll
rickety old desk? if someone wants it... did we ever check inside it? (The desk is worthless, and contains nothing of value.)
valuable commissioned glasswork
1 potion (cure moderate wounds)
A finely crafted composite shortbow (masterwork)
A gold ring (ring of jumping)
A finely crafted thieves’ tools
A finely crafted flute (masterwork)
Pair of silver earrings
What appears to be a journal
6 pouches of gold dust
8 pouches of silver dust
10 pp

Will look up the monetary value of jewelery and update this when I can.

Does the short bow have a strength rating or is it a standard stregth 0 one?

Really thinking about grabbing this. although I'd rather use a long bow, I'd also like to actually hit something, and this is masterwork.

Does the short bow have a strength rating or is it a standard stregth 0 one?

Really thinking about grabbing this. although I'd rather use a long bow, I'd also like to actually hit something, and this is masterwork.

The way you're rolling that +1 won't matter. ;)

What I really meant to say:

Jlord, excellent job on the loot list. Thanks a bunch!

Thanadros wrote:

Does the short bow have a strength rating or is it a standard stregth 0 one?

Really thinking about grabbing this. although I'd rather use a long bow, I'd also like to actually hit something, and this is masterwork.

The way you're rolling that +1 won't matter. ;)

What I really meant to say:

Jlord, excellent job on the loot list. Thanks a bunch!

Yeah I know. I should have just bit the bullet and made a psion. It is basically like a wizard right? I chose Psionic warrior because it seemed the easiest to learn.

As for the loot, No Problem.

Things will come around. It doesn't happen often, but when the bow hits and crits, it is huge. You just have to live for that.

As for Psion v. psions warrior, I've got no clue. Tried psionics in AD&D and never again. Part of my reason for playing this game is to see psionics in action now.

About loot. The glasswork and anything else that was obviously her family's should probably go to AMeiko.

I'm pretty sure that Vaclav grabbed the holy symbol and demon book so he and Father Zantus can appropriately destroy them.

We should probably keep Tsuto's journal and read through it for more clues. What was the other journal?

I suggest everyone stake a claim to the items they can best use. We sell the rest and split the cash evenly.

I know this point of view with regards to magical treasure is usually unpopular, but...

...please think twice before claiming something semi-useful that we could sell instead. I'm thinking of the ring of jumping and the returning dagger. For example, I would much rather sell the dagger at half price and buy two +1 weapons with the proceeds.

I know this point of view with regards to magical treasure is usually unpopular, but...

...please think twice before claiming something semi-useful that we could sell instead. I'm thinking of the ring of jumping and the returning dagger. For example, I would much rather sell the dagger at half price and buy two +1 weapons with the proceeds.

That works for me. Unless it's something someone really wants, and we can all work out an appropriate way to even out shares of the treasure.

I have some time tonight. I will figure out the grand sell total, and split it up evenly.

Usually I'm a fan of passing out treasure to those that need/want what is found. But I don't mind selling everything so everyone gets equal shares.

One thing that worked out well in the past: We figure out everyone's share before actually selling the loot, and then If some one wants something, then they can "buy" it from the party for half price from their share. In essence we would sell it to the party member, instead of a vender.

We can obviously make exceptions for certain things. If someone really wants to use the dagger for instance, and the shares are not enough, we can obviously work things out in this discussion thread.

Edit:
HERE IS THE TREASURE SPREADSHEET I will update when I know the value of the rest of the stuff. Everything in green is stuff I need a value for. Yellow are "party Items"

I think the second journal was Tsuto's, so I omitted it.

Regarding Psion v. Psychic Warrior: In my opinion, Psions are actually closer to a sorcerer than a wizard because they have a limited power list rather than the potential for ALL THE SPELLS! like a wizard eventually can get.

Anyways, I'm good with the shares method of dividing the treasure; As for what Albrecht would want, all he would like is one of the four reach weapons (so one of the ranseurs or the glaive). In this situation, he's not picky.

Hey guys, I'm going to be out of town for a week, but I'll be able to post intermittently. Today, Sunday, and maybe Monday I'll be unavailable, and the following Sunday I'll be unavailable. Tues-Sat I should be able to post on occasion.

If combat happens, feel free to make Gob hide. He'll always try to use defensive ranged tactics in combat if you all need to NPC him.

As for loot, Gob will gladly take whatever the party is willing to give him.

I like the sound of Jlord's method for loot allocation.

Aylmora has a decent score in Use Magic Device, and could make use of the Wand of Shocking Grasp.

It's a good method, one I always vote for.

Great spreadsheet jlord.

I'm fine with that method, but I see a couple of exceptions:

the holy symbol, jlord already put my name on. the demon notebook i'd like for the same reason. To decommision or destroy them. I'd rather not have to pay for the pleasure, but if the party demands it, Vaclav will pay. It's an RP thing.

As I posted before, the valuable glass should go back to Ameiko. Again if Vaclav has to buy it he will, but ....

The cure moderate potion I think we should keep in the group. Someone who is not Vaclav should hold it in trust for the party. Backup healing is important if we get split up or Vaclav can't get to a casualty.

Tsuto's journal is probably worthless, but we should hang on to it in case we need to read through it for extra clues later.

Alymora had a claim in on one of the daggers already. Just want to make sure she gets first dibs on that piece.

Likewise Gornak had taken a shine to the Glaive, I think.

I'm fine with that method, but I see a couple of exceptions:

Yellow denotes party item, or in this case given to you to so you can destroy it. Like I said there are exceptions.

Marked the glasswork in blue to be discussed. I don't have a problem with giving it back to Ameiko, but just a note, Thanadros grabbed one of the more interesting ones when he found them. Not sure what it looks like, but he has it in his possession. If confronted, he has no problem giving it back, he just thought it looked like a nice piece of art. Does anyone else have a problem with leaving the glasswork with Ameiko?

Which dagger did you want Alymora? the silver one or the really magical one? assuming you still wanted one of them. you might be able to make use out of the burning hands scroll too if you wanted.

Thanadros is considering the short bow and possibly either the masterwork axe or the +1 sword. Thanadros is not a front liner, so if anyone else wants the weapons, by all means, I'm not even sure if I am going through with it. Once everyone else has made some claims, and we know the final amount, I will make my decision. It will probably be based on if I can afford a masterwork Composite Str Longbow or not, and how much I would have left over.

Not sure what kind of sword the +1 sword is. Albrecht don't you wield a sword?

I agree with the potion. Although Thanadros's ac is not the best, he is a back liner, and thus probably be one of the better to have it to help assist if one of the front liners goes down.

Yellow denotes party item, or in this case given to you to so you can destroy it. Like I said there are exceptions.

Sorry. Should have read your original post more closely.

I personally am mostly interested in cash this time around. (The longbow ate a huge hole in Vaclav's starting cash. I'd like to grab a mace for hand to hand, improve his armor, and pick up some odds and ends.)

That said, I'd rather everyone get what they want out of the split.

One thing that worked out well in the past: We figure out everyone's share before actually selling the loot, and then If some one wants something, then they can "buy" it from the party for half price from their share. In essence we would sell it to the party member, instead of a vender.

This is definitely my preferred method of splitting up treasure, but I've had resistance to it in the past.

Gornak is not actually that interested in the masterwork glaive; he'd rather have a non-masterwork one made for a Large creature.

Aylmora was using the +1 returning dagger until we cleared the dungeon, but I don't mind selling it now or letting someone else have it if the party wants. The silver dagger might be nice to hold onto - if no one else wants it Aylmora would be happy to hold onto it.

Would the masterwork glaive be worth more to someone with historical interests? Is there a sage in town who would be interested in it?

BTW, are the thieves tools masterwork? If so, Aylmora would be interested in holding onto those as well - she may take a level in rogue or another trapfinding/lockpicking class in the near future.

And Jlord - thanks for putting together the spreadsheet and tracking the party's treasure!

Well Dabbler, I think were just waiting for the price on the last few pieces of treasure.

therealthom wrote:

I'm fine with that method, but I see a couple of exceptions:

Yellow denotes party item, or in this case given to you to so you can destroy it. Like I said there are exceptions.

Marked the glasswork in blue to be discussed. I don't have a problem with giving it back to Ameiko, but just a note, Thanadros grabbed one of the more interesting ones when he found them. Not sure what it looks like, but he has it in his possession. If confronted, he has no problem giving it back, he just thought it looked like a nice piece of art. Does anyone else have a problem with leaving the glasswork with Ameiko?

Which dagger did you want Alymora? the silver one or the really magical one? assuming you still wanted one of them. you might be able to make use out of the burning hands scroll too if you wanted.

Thanadros is considering the short bow and possibly either the masterwork axe or the +1 sword. Thanadros is not a front liner, so if anyone else wants the weapons, by all means, I'm not even sure if I am going through with it. Once everyone else has made some claims, and we know the final amount, I will make my decision. It will probably be based on if I can afford a masterwork Composite Str Longbow or not, and how much I would have left over.

Not sure what kind of sword the +1 sword is. Albrecht don't you wield a sword?

I agree with the potion. Although Thanadros's ac is not the best, he is a back liner, and thus probably be one of the better to have it to help assist if one of the front liners goes down.

Yes I use a sword, but it is a Large Masterwork Temple Sword so that way I can flurry with it.

Dabbler, how much are these things worth so I can wrap up the loot.

tiny black silk gown
tiny tiara of silver and gold
pair of silver earrings
6 pouches of gold dust
8 pouches of silver dust

And is the +1 sword a long sword?

Dabbler, how much are these things worth so I can wrap up the loot.

Sorry, should have got to this before:

tiny black silk gown = 25gp
tiny tiara of silver and gold = 50gp
pair of silver earrings = 50gp
6 pouches of gold dust = 50gp each for 300gp value total
8 pouches of silver dust = 5gp each for 40gp value total

And is the +1 sword a long sword? Yes it is.

gems and trade goods resell at face value, right?

OK, assuming that all of those items are worth full value, that brings each share out to 1353 gp 5 sp 9 cp per person.

If you kept something from the loot, subtract the sell value from the share.

I will assume that Thanadros is holding the Party CMW potion unless told otherwise.

Let me know when everyone is done with the spread sheet, and I will trim the sold items.

Starting Share Value: 1353 gp, 5 sp, 9 cp

Aylmora is keeping the following items from the loot list:

--Scroll of Burning Hands (sale value 12 gp, 5 sp)
--Wand of Shocking Grasp, 28 charges (sale value 210 gp)
--Masterwork Silver Dagger (sale value 161 gp)
--Finely-crafted Thieves' Tools - I assume these are masterwork? (sale value 50 gp)

That leaves Aylmora with a remaining share value of 920 gp, 9 cp (plus 21 gp, 10 sp remaining from her starting wealth) with which to go shopping.

Gornak doesn't want any of the loot.

(Dang, not quite enough for masterwork full plate. :-)

Gornak doesn't want any of the loot.

(Dang, not quite enough for masterwork full plate. :-)

Given enough time between sessions, Gob could craft it...

Gornak doesn't want any of the loot.

(Dang, not quite enough for masterwork full plate. :-)

How much are you short?

Hey Gornak- Aylmora doesn't need to purchase very much. I'd be happy to help make up the difference so you could buy a suit of masterwork full plate.

How long would it take (days/hours) to enchant my armor to +1?

I'd be happy to chip in to put the big man in some decent armor too.

Vaclav will just take his share in cash.

Jlord, thanks again for the treasure spreadsheet.

And I'm happy with Thanadros holding the cure potion.

So Albrecht will take the Masterwork glaive for 154 gp of his share, and the rest in cash; the glaive is a bit too fancy for his tastes, but hey, it's just a tool.

So he has 1199 gp 5 sp 9 cp in cash from that, and after merging with his current wealth he is now at:
+1 Masterwork Glaive
1227 gp 5 sp 9 cp

And Albrecht would be more than happy to pitch in some cash to the "Armor for Gornak" fund. Hey, he's not doing anything with the money.

Wow, you had enough money to make the glaive magical?

OK I think that is everyone, I'm going to clean out the treasure list.

If anyone needs to see the Treasure List in the future, feel free to use one of the links above. Thanadros also has a link at the bottom of his profile page.

Wow, you had enough money to make the glaive magical?

OK I think that is everyone, I'm going to clean out the treasure list.

If anyone needs to see the Treasure List in the future, feel free to use one of the links above. Thanadros also has a link at the bottom of his profile page.

Hm. Silly generic magic item names. No, I meant +1 as in (plus) 1 (more) Masterwork Glaive.

Can Gornak get a lucerne hammer from the Adventurer's Armory?

I should check this thread more often!

It will take 24 hours to enchant the masterwork armour to +1, two days to enchant a masterwork weapon.

Gornak can find a masterwork or normal lucerne hammer from Savah's, yes; he can also find a masterwork ogre hook there.

Thanadros and Aylmora, those equipment lists are fine, although the party will have pretty much maxed out on everything the town has to offer in terms of alchemical supplied by the time you are done!

Gornak can find a masterwork or normal lucerne hammer from Savah's, yes; he can also find a masterwork ogre hook there.

Masterwork is for sissies!! ;-)