Supers in Pathfinder.


Advice


Just for fun, I'm making some of my favorite DC and Marvel characters as Pathfinder PCs. I'm looking for some feedback on race and class. Obviously most of the actual characters are humans with some aliens and a few androids, but I don't want every character I'm making be human unless it just fits better than another race.

For example, Batman would definitely be human as would Captain America. But Hulk would fit better as a half-orc while Thor seems more like an Aasimar.

Yes, the characters won't be completely accurate, but it's just for fun.

So, here are my ideas, feedback would be nice.

Hulk: Half-Orc Alchemist/Barbarian.

Flash: Slyph? Suli? Sorcerer with Stormborn Bloodline.

Doctor Strange: Human Wizard.

Captain Cold: Gunslinger/Human Phantom Thief Rogue? Dashing Thief Swashbuckler?

Batman: Human Vigilante/Fighter.

Thor: Aasimar Paladin?

Blade: Dhampir Slayer

Spider-Man: Half-Elf Monk?

Dark Archive

Vigilante class and archetypes are what you are looking for. They even have a spiderman archetype.


1 person marked this as a favorite.

A lot of transforming supers might be handled by synthesist summoner best.

Edit: and there's a vampire hunter class out of some obscure setting which is basically made for Blade.

Liberty's Edge

The Shield Champion brawler is literally just Cap.

I liked that archetype until I saw how much of it was about throwing the shield.


1 person marked this as a favorite.

Hulk: Mutagen Fighter with VMC Barbarian. If you can fit an eldricht heritage Orc for MOOOOOOOAT STRENGHT all the better :D

Thor: AAsimar Air Kineticist basically gives the control over the thunder. It works for a less hammer more thunder concept.

Spider Man:Beastmorph Alchemist. With mutagen you can choose some ability from the ones listed on the Beast Shape Spell, namely a climb speed, blindsense ecc ecc


Black Panther: Catfolk Slayer with two brawler levels and those cat claw weapons. Probably homebrewed to be a close weapon.


1 person marked this as a favorite.

Note: These are based on the comic versions. Only DC, as I don't yet read Marvel comics.

Flash: Monk - not only because of fast Movement and the ki ability to increase speed, but also because a flurry of blows is about the default tactic of every Flash. Jay Garrick (Golden Age Flash) at least is also trained by Wildcat, a former boxing world champion.

Captain Cold: Spellslinger Wizard - focussing cold spells through a firearm.

Batman: Schrödinger's Wizard - because an completely unrealistic preparedness is actually Batmans superpower (at least under most writers).
More seriously, straight-18s Human Brawler into Pathfinder Chronicler with with Racial Heritage for Well Prepared. Oh, and gestalting with Vigilante, of course.


Derklord wrote:


Captain Cold: Spellslinger Wizard - focussing cold spells through a firearm.

How about Gunslinger/Eldritch Archer Magus?


Thing is that Captain Cold's cold-gun doesn't fire any bullets, but only the, er, cold-stuff (which, incindentally, seems to be just as much a type of energy as in Pathfinder, rather the absence of thermal energy as it should be).
I was actually about to suggest Gun Chemist with the Frost Bomb discovery, but cut it out due to what I said above.


You could have Captain Cold be a Kineticist with hydrokinesis and get either a zero pistol or a zero rifle when you can afford it.


There are a lot of good ideas in here. I definitely like the Spellslinger idea for Captain Cold. I might still multiclass him with a Dashing Thief as that's just his personality.

I forgot about a Monk's speed bonuses. I'll put that one Flash but I still like the Sorcerer idea due to the lightning powers it gives. Either multiclass or gestalt.


Well, I tried to do a point buy for Flash. It wasn't easy. Would he be Str based or Dex based? And Sorcerers need Cha for their spells but Monks need Wis for their features. Unless I go with the Scaled Fist archetype to switch it to Cha.

With a 20 point buy, going Dex-based, and using Slyph as the race, Flash's stats come out to 10 Str, 15 Dex, 13 Con, 13 Int, 12 Wis, 15 Cha.

Batman's stats were a little easier. Putting the human's +2 into Wis, it comes to 15 Str, 12 Dex, 13 Con, 15 Wis, 10 Cha.

I also did stats for Hulk, putting the half-orc's +2 into Wis. It came out to 15 Str, 10 Dex, 14 Con, 16 Int, 14 Wis, 7 Cha.


If I go with Spellslinger for Captain Cold, I need to choose 4 opposition schools. Since Cold uses his cold gun to either blast someone with ice or ice over the ground to make it hard for people to move around, I'm thinking that he probably doesn't need Divination, Illusion, or Abjuration. Are those good choices? And what about the 4th? Conjuration, perhaps?


Necromancy.


Necromancy was suggested to me by a friend as well. He also said to change out Abjuration to Enchantment.


Batman is a Gestalt Brawler/Investigator with very high stats. Remember, he is the world's greatest detective.


That's true.


I picked out some stats for Captain Cold. 3 possibilities - one for a Spellslinger, one for a Gunslinger/Swashbuckler, and one for a Gunslinger/Rogue.

Spellslinger:
10 Str, 15 Dex, 13 Con, 16 Int (14+2), 14 Wis, 10 Cha.

Gunslinger/Swashbuckler (Dashing Thief archetype.)
10 Str, 15 Dex (13+2), 12 Con, 14 Int, 14 Wis, 14 Cha.

Gunslinger/Rogue
10 Str, 16 Dex (14+2), 13 Con, 15 Int, 14 Wis, 10 Cha. I might switch Int and Wis.


A few more class suggestions for Captain Cold were given to me. One was an Alchemist using Explosive Missile and Frost Bombs. Another was the Eldritch Archer, and a third was a suggest for the Spellslinger - using the Elemental Schools as his opposition schools.


Name: Rose Wilson
Alias: Ravager
Race: Human
Alignment: LE
Deity: Achaekek
Favored Weapon: Sawtooth Sabre
Weapons:
Fuming Blood Sabre +1 Corrosive Sawtooth Sabre(+2 Guided)
Crimson Bluff +2 Speed Sawtooth Sabre (+3 Guided)

She is a gestalt combination of...

UnChained Monk:
Hamatulatsu Master, Monk of the Mantis, Perfect Scholar
Warpriest:
Mantis Zealot

And she is a beautiful little terror using Ascetic Strike to apply Stunning Fist/Debilitating Blows with her unarmed damage through her sabres via Crusader's Flurry.

I was making her dad, Slade. But then I seen Hamatulatsu Master stacked with Monk of the Mantis, and Hamatulatsu Masters are usually female, so...


Interesting. Although I would see Ravager as more Chaotic Neutral than Lawful Evil. But I admit I really only know her from various Teen Titans comics my library had, all of which were pre-New 52.


Heather 540 wrote:
Interesting. Although I would see Ravager as more Chaotic Neutral than Lawful Evil. But I admit I really only know her from various Teen Titans comics my library had, all of which were pre-New 52.

She probably would be CN.

However, Mantis Zealot Warpriest required worshipping Achaekek, the Mantis God, who is LE. And it meshes oh so well with Monk of the Mantis (since monks have to be lawful), thus giving full sneak attack progression between the two of them.

And between what Hamatulatsu Master can do with Stunning Fist, adding conditions to it, AS WELL AS the conditions applied by Debilitating Blows, all of this through her sawtooth sabres doing monk unarmed damage and Flurry of Blows... Yeah, she is neat.

Conditions like:
Shaken, Entangled, nonlethal bleed damage, Exhausted, and Frightened, all of which can last up to her wisdom modifier.


I see. That seems like a fun build.


Wait, Ravager using Stunning Fist? Doesn't she just want to kill her enemies? I mean, Robin had to trick her into using fancy energy swords that only deal nonlethal damage...


Stunning Fist is simply used to apply conditions through her dual sawtooth sabres. Conditions that make it easier for her to kill you. Plus, Dastardly Finish allows her to Coup de Grace stunned targets.

In this particular build, she also has Critical Mastery with Censoring and Crippling Critical, so you can't run or scream for help.

She can also use Quivering Palm, through her sabres, to just flat kill you. Or, since Monk of the Mantis, just knock you unconscious for a glorious Coup de Grace afterwards, if she so chooses to add a statement to your death.

Liberty's Edge

Pathfinder Roleplaying Game Superscriber; Pathfinder Starfinder Adventure Path, Starfinder Roleplaying Game, Starfinder Society Subscriber

For Flash and other speedsters, if you're willing to use 3rd party material (albeit well-vetted, occasionally used in Paizo's own APs, 3rd party material), the quickling creature template from the Advanced Bestiary might be useful.


Looks interesting.


I just figured all Speedsters would be abusing Dimensional Dervish. But that is also very fun.

Community / Forums / Pathfinder / Pathfinder First Edition / Advice / Supers in Pathfinder. All Messageboards

Want to post a reply? Sign in.