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Informal survey of impact of Retail Incentive Program boons

Roleplaying Guild General Discussion

Liberty's Edge *

Just because I am curious, I am starting this thread for people to post when one of the boons from the Retail Incentive Program was used and what impact the use of that boon had on the character/adventure.

Please include the boon (Harder to Kill, Cheaper Healing, Recover from Wounds, or Bonus Wealth), what level (standard or enhanced), and the impact it had.

My first use ended up being Bonus Wealth. I rolled the same exact number on my D20 so the re-roll didn't help but the enhanced level did increase my total gold from 10 to 15.

Scarab Sages ** Venture-Agent, Finland—Oulu aka Shinae

Past two tables we had were both enhanced and I used it on Bonus Wealth.

First time I rolled 20 and 16, and I had 13 base in diplomacy so it helped and gave little extra money. Added security was nice feeling, when you knew you didn't have to worry about critical hits that much and dying of hp damage.

Second week I rolled 1 and 3 for day job, so total gold I got was 15, so didn't do much. Still added security was again nice.

***** Venture-Agent, North Carolina—Durham aka LoPan666

At a table I ran, a PC escaped death to bleed out due to the Harder to Kill benefit.

Dark Archive **** Venture-Lieutenant, Minnesota—Twin Cities Metro South

We had our first gameday with the program last night. 1 table had the enhanced - and it saved a grippli's life at second level.

The other table had a couple players with the lower incentive, and was mostly for Bonus Wealth.

Overall - it did incentivize a little more purchasing at the store - which they loved. So a success in my book.

The Exchange ****

Used it for Bonus Wealth - so it pushed my Day Job money up from 150 to 225gp...

Pretty good for the first CR on the character 430gp from Consortium Compact, and 225gp from Perform Strings.

"Hi! Call me Cash! - and yes, it's all about the money..."

Silver Crusade **** Venture-Agent aka Thereus, Silver Crusader

A paladin named Seelah benefited from the Harder to Kill boon during her confirmation. Why yes, it was an opportunity attack from you know who, you know where, and you know when.

Dark Archive *****

I've seen it used 3 times so far.

First time (enhanced) the Harder to Kill boon meant that Harsk's badger failed to die.

2nd (enhanced) & 3rd (normal) times it was bonus wealth. My PC's gained 150gp instead of 100gp.

Lantern Lodge ***** Venture-Agent aka Jayson MF Kip

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Both tables at our last gameday bought $50 worth of merch. Whether or not that did anything for the players/PCs, the store certainly appreciated it.

Grand Lodge ***** Venture-Captain, Arizona—Phoenix aka TriOmegaZero

I have had two tables at the enhanced level and one at the standard level. In one, the Bonus Wealth benefit was used for the most part, while in the second the Cheaper Healing was used to defray the cost of a near party wipe. The sole remaining party member used Bonus Wealth instead. Other tables locally have had access to the benefits, but I do not have data for them.

** Venture-Agent, Canada—Alberta—Red Deer

Last night had the Harder to Kill standard boon save the paladin from death by Mummy power attack slamming. This helped the APL 3.6 six player party in an 4-5 game get by without deaths... On the flip site it was a 10 con melee character, so not sure the the threat of death was entirely unwarranted.

Another character used the cheaper healing to help with the process of removing Mummy Rot.

A few weeks ago a level 2 Barbarian ate a large battleaxe crit after refusing the advise of a halfling. The enhanced harder to kill and the welcome to pathfinder boon combined was not enough to save them.

Silver Crusade **** Venture-Agent aka Thereus, Silver Crusader

Locally in the DFW area, it has been a fairly regular sight to see a pile of receipts hit the table before the scenarios begin, that can mean from $50-200 for the store depending on the number of scenarios run that gameday. Usually see it used for Harder to Kill and then ultimately Bonus Wealth.

Sovereign Court *

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We had a 4th-level alchemist who only survived a gearsman's spear crit thanks to Harder to Kill (Improved). Usually, the benefit goes to Bonus Wealth, and we can almost always manage the improved benefit.

Grand Lodge *

I've noticed players buying more from the store because of it. The only benefit I've seen at a table I've played at though is a higher day job check.

Dark Archive **

I would definitely say that I've seen more people purchasing stuff from the stores. I've had at least 1 character that needed the extra HP to prevent a full raise dead being required. But also died once anyway. I haven't kept track but I'm sure that at least a couple of other people have avoided a raise dead from the boon.
A large number of us also ended up using the lower healing cost while playing through Bonekeep to lower the cost of all those raises.

**** Venture-Lieutenant, Ohio—Cleveland aka GinoA

We've been encouraging people to "support the four walls" for ages. The store I play at regularly offers snacks at reasonable prices and the owner counts them for RIP.

What the program has done is provide a simple way to bring up supporting the store. It's also saved several lowish level characters from bleeding out.

Silver Crusade ***

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Agreed. Our group has always been pretty good about supporting the places we play at, but the boon seems to have encouraged it--and we've seen a couple of people not bleed to death as a result. Mostly it gets used for better day jobs.

The other options come up occasionally, though. It helped offset costs from a near-TPK at one point. The party had accumulated a ridiculous number of temporary negative levels and the "Cheaper Healing" boon (at the higher level, so -2 prestige cost) let us get restorations prior to those negative levels becoming permanent.

Grand Lodge ***** Venture-Captain, Arizona—Phoenix aka TriOmegaZero

A couple high roller players locally have made the enhanced benefits fairly common at the tables I have attended. The program has encouraged purchases on game days, but I can't say for certain if that is an increase or a shift in purchase times. Anecdotally I believe it has brought a number of players to the store for purchases rather than going elsewhere. It has also saved a number of characters from raise dead needs, but the most often use is the day job enhancements.

The Exchange ***** Venture-Lieutenant, Texas—Dallas & Ft. Worth aka Belafon

Erich Deines wrote:
Locally in the DFW area, it has been a fairly regular sight to see a pile of receipts hit the table before the scenarios begin, that can mean from $50-200 for the store depending on the number of scenarios run that gameday. Usually see it used for Harder to Kill and then ultimately Bonus Wealth.

This is definitely true.

Including last month when I called a break before a big fight and Erich said something to the effect of: "I've GMed this scenario before. Are we up to $50 yet? I think I'll go see what's on the clearance rack."

Shadow Lodge *****

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Because I care about my local game stores I have always made a purchase when playing a game. This is part of being a good gaming customer.

I do not involve myself in pay to play games or incentives, nor will I. So my receipts (which often total $50 if I've decided to wait to buy a board game until the next time I'm at the store for PFS), stay in my pocket.

So in that essence, nothing has changed for me (and thus my game store) based on my habits.

Dark Archive **

This has definitely lead to our tables at bi-weekly gamedays in Austin, TX consistently aiming for at least the $10 mark via drinks/snacks. I have noticed that folks make a point of picking up their new Pathfinder Hardback purchases on Gamedays to help meet the $50 mark as well. The basic version of Harder to Kill is quickly becoming a near staple, as it is easy for us to hit $10 if all 6 players grab a drink/soda at the start.

In terms of optional boon, I see Bonus Wealth the most followed by rare cases of Cheaper Healing. I can't say I've ever seen Recover from Wounds used.

Liberty's Edge *

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The nice thing about the program is that it is pretty easy to get the basic level when 4 or 5 are just buying stacks.

It also applies to all players, not just the ones who chose to show receipts which I think is a good feature as well.

For the most part, the boons have been used to increase day job chances and rewards.

Shadow Lodge *****

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Pretty much everybody, but specifically quoting Gary Bush wrote:
For the most part, the boons have been used to increase day job chances and rewards.

This is probably my biggest irk about this program. For years we fought against getting "too much" wealth by level, to the point that the entire difficulty system was revamped to help alleviate what I'll just refer to as gold farming.

Now - people regularly try to meet the RIP goals in order to get their characters more money (either by gaining more day job cash, or not needing to spend cash on death removal).

I don't need to be told to be a good gamer customer - I already know that if I don't spend money at my game store they're not likely going to be there tomorrow. Thus why I do not participate. It is unfortunate there needed to be a program counter to stated goals in order to get others to figure that out.

Shadow Lodge ****

Mister Slanky wrote:


Now - people regularly try to meet the RIP goals in order to get their characters more money (either by gaining more day job cash, or not needing to spend cash on death removal).

Dayjob cash is usually just a drop in the bucket

Shadow Lodge ****

We ve used it a gew times for the dying. Usually forget about it for the dayjobs

Liberty's Edge **** Venture-Agent, Indiana—Hammond

People are buying more at my store (Lightspeed Hobbies in Portage, Indiana). They are using the enhanced bonus primarily for day jobs, but occasionally to heal from ability damage.

The Harder to Kill bonus is very welcome with the players here. We had it save a player character or two already.

*** Venture-Agent, Massachusetts—Boston Metro aka Zoomba

Had our table remembered to make purchases before the game rather than after, we could have dodged a death a few weeks back.

The Harder to kill boon is by far the most appreciated benefit I've noticed. As far as the 'active' options, I've mostly just seen the Day Job used. So far I haven't noticed a particular uptick in purchases at the stores, but our lodge was fairly good at supporting the brick-and-mortar before this.

Silver Crusade ** Venture-Lieutenant, Ohio—Toledo

The Harder To Kill boon has prevented at least 2 lower-level PC deaths at our tables recently. Our players have always been good about buying snacks, but the program has encouraged some to buy hardback books and board games on PFS nights.

A couple of players have benefited from the Day Job bonus, but most in our group don't play PC's with Day Jobs. Both benefits are definitely appreciated by our player base.

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