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Source Advanced Class Guide pg. 150
Your link with your companion creature allows you to share your magic with it.
Prerequisites: Ability to acquire an animal companion, eidolon, familiar, or special mount.
Benefit: When you are adjacent to or sharing a square with your companion creature and that companion creature has this feat, you can cast a spell on yourself and divide the duration evenly between yourself and the companion creature. You can use this feat only on spells with a duration of at least 2 rounds. For example, you could cast bull’s strength on yourself, and instead of the spell lasting 1 minute per level on yourself, it lasts 5 rounds per level on yourself and 5 rounds per level on your companion.
Once the spell is cast, you and the companion creature can move farther apart without ending the effect.
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The problem lies in the wording of the Prerequisite. It requires you to have the ability to acquire an animal companion, familiar, eidolon, or special mount. It is also a teamwork feat, which requires the person (creature) you are doing it with has it as well. Unfortunately, no companion that I know of has the ability to acquire companions of their own so they are ineligible to learn it, leaving the character with no one to share it with.
I'm sure this was written with Hunters in mind, as the animal companion doesn't need to meet the feat requirements due to Hunter Tactics, and is published in the same book as the Hunter class. But Hunter is not a requirement, and it clear opens the doors to other classes with the wording in the requirement mentioning other companions.
One of my local players texted me the this question while I happened to be at GenCon, and I happened to be sitting a few tables over from John Compton so I went over and asked him. He looked over the wording, gave me his answer, then suggested I post it to the forums so that could be officially noticed and errataed. Thus this post, hopefully this is the right place to put it.
You could in theory also use this as a Sacred Huntsmaster, other Inquisitor who has an Animal Companion, or Cavalier via Tactician. Still, a rewording of the prereq would be lovely, given that it also allows Eidolons and familiars, which I can't think of a way to give the feat off the top of my head.
It's not listed like that in the PRD maybe it got stealth Errataed.
err never mind apparent there is a version that is a Teamwork Feat and one that is not. So this is a way to get it as a bonus feat for some classes I guess.
improved spell sharing is designed for hunters, and other pet classes that can share teamwork feats - same as pack flanking. It is worded deliberately to not limit it to any one class for forward compatibility - They can be taught [/tongue in cheek]
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improved spell sharing is designed for hunters, and other pet classes that can share teamwork feats - same as pack flanking. It is worded deliberately to not limit it to any one class for forward compatibility - They can be taught [/tongue in cheek]
So you're saying they specifically worded it in such a way that a summoner can take the feat while an eidolon cannot in case they some day make a summoner archetype that grants teamwork feats to the eidolon or the summoner sacrifices wealth and/or class levels to get the feat onto its eidolon via something that isn't "just because he's a basic summoner"?
improved spell sharing is designed for hunters, and other pet classes that can share teamwork feats - same as pack flanking. It is worded deliberately to not limit it to any one class for forward compatibility - They can be taught [/tongue in cheek]So you're saying they specifically worded it in such a way that a summoner can take the feat while an eidolon cannot in case they some day make a summoner archetype that grants teamwork feats to the eidolon or the summoner sacrifices wealth and/or class levels to get the feat onto its eidolon via something that isn't "just because he's a basic summoner"?
Yeah, that doesnt make sense. If that were the case the new summoner archtype would just get an ability, like the hunters that says the eidolon can ignore feat requirements for teamwork feats. Would make things less confusing. It makes more sense that it was supposed to be designed so the PC required a compaion so it didn't get used as a normal Teamwork Feat between party members, and the wording just needs to be clarified. IMO.
Insufficient future proofing has bitten Paizo on the derriere on occasion.
Yeah, that doesnt make sense. If that were the case the new summoner archtype would just get an ability, like the hunters that says the eidolon can ignore feat requirements for teamwork feats. Would make things less confusing. It makes more sense that it was supposed to be designed so the PC required a compaion so it didn't get used as a normal Teamwork Feat between party members, and the wording just needs to be clarified. IMO.improved spell sharing is designed for hunters, and other pet classes that can share teamwork feats - same as pack flanking. It is worded deliberately to not limit it to any one class for forward compatibility - They can be taught [/tongue in cheek]So you're saying they specifically worded it in such a way that a summoner can take the feat while an eidolon cannot in case they some day make a summoner archetype that grants teamwork feats to the eidolon or the summoner sacrifices wealth and/or class levels to get the feat onto its eidolon via something that isn't "just because he's a basic summoner"?
It is designed so that you must have an companion creature and an ability to grant it this feat without worrying about prerequisites.
This limitation is deliberate and shouldn't be disregarded. Improved Spell Sharing wasn't meant to be able to be taken by everyone.
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The problem lies in the wording of the Prerequisite. It requires you to have the ability to acquire an animal companion, familiar, eidolon, or special mount. It is also a teamwork feat, which requires the person (creature) you are doing it with has it as well. Unfortunately, no companion that I know of has the ability to acquire companions of their own so they are ineligible to learn it, leaving the character with no one to share it with.
I'm sure this was written with Hunters in mind, as the animal companion doesn't need to meet the feat requirements due to Hunter Tactics, and is published in the same book as the Hunter class. But Hunter is not a requirement, and it clear opens the doors to other classes with the wording in the requirement mentioning other companions.
There are several options which would allow you to benefit from the feat without requiring you to be a Hunter. Many of which have been brought to light in this thread.
Being an Inquisitor with an Animal Companion, or a Cavalier (Otagian)
Being a Skald or Bard (Markov Spiked Chain)
Having a Familiar with the Valet archetype.
Giving a Ring of Tactical Precision to your companion creature.
These are all alternatives to being a Hunter and are only possible because they didn't limit this feat to Hunters.
You viewed the prerequisite as odd since you didn't know of the other ways to benefit from this feat. With these in mind, the prerequisite becomes completely logical.
TL;DR:
improved spell sharing is designed for hunters, and other pet classes that can share teamwork feats - same as pack flanking. It is worded deliberately to not limit it to any one class for forward compatibility - They can be taught [/tongue in cheek]
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One of my local players texted me the this question while I happened to be at GenCon, and I happened to be sitting a few tables over from John Compton so I went over and asked him. He looked over the wording, gave me his answer, then suggested I post it to the forums so that could be officially noticed and errataed. Thus this post, hopefully...
Necro to ask what John Compton said at that GenCon. Seems to be relevant, but never stated in this thread.
One of my local players texted me the this question while I happened to be at GenCon, and I happened to be sitting a few tables over from John Compton so I went over and asked him. He looked over the wording, gave me his answer, then suggested I post it to the forums so that could be officially noticed and errataed. Thus this post, hopefully...Necro to ask what John Compton said at that GenCon. Seems to be relevant, but never stated in this thread.
I’d also be interested in John Compton’s answer!
I hope he said "Just teach your pet the "worship Calistria" pet trick and get it the wasp familiar feat first."