Petition to bring back Laori Vaus in a future AP!


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Please bring back Lauri Vaus in a future AP!

Yes, she is technically evil, but is such a quirky and fun character that she deserves another appearance!

For thoses not yet in the know, she is an NPC that appears in Escape from Old Korvosa and Skeletons of Scarwall.

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Sorry.

It's too late to fix it, but the correct spelling is Laori Vaus.


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I would like to see her again....evil needs more perkiness and cheer.


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I'd love to see more of what happens to Golarion's cheerful chain maiden, especially if we can get Wayne Reynolds to give her the portrait she deserves, which also allows for a more... realistic revision of her outfit (or not).

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captain yesterday wrote:
I'd love to see more of what happens to Golarion's cheerful chain maiden, especially if we can get Wayne Reynolds to give her the portrait she deserves, which also allows for a more... realistic revision of her outfit (or not).

And a miniature.

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Gonna be pretty unlikely since I dont think she is all that well liked by some of the higher ups.

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Kevin Mack wrote:
Gonna be pretty unlikely since I dont think she is all that well liked by some of the higher ups.

Really?? Why??


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Lord Fyre wrote:
Kevin Mack wrote:
Gonna be pretty unlikely since I dont think she is all that well liked by some of the higher ups.
Really?? Why??

And Who?

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She remains one of my favorite NPCs (quite probably *being* my favorite NPC) from Pathfinder. My gaming group loved her too when the party ran into her. I'd enjoy seeing her show up for another appearance like Shalelu and Ameiko did.

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Erik Mona apparently isn't that much into perky goth tsudere goth lolis

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Gorbacz wrote:
Erik Mona apparently isn't that much into perky goth tsudere goth lolis

I searched his posts and that one didn't show up! I knew I'd seen it before, though. Thank you for finding it. ^_^

As for getting a mini of Laori, you might be able to make a decent approximation using HeroForge. You'll still have to paint it, of course, but it's better than nothing.


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But that was strictly from a Mini point of view, he never said he didn't like her as an NPC, also note he said it would be considered with a better rendering of art. Honestly, I just love her positive attitude, I don't need the catsuit.


Given our party dumped her in an unmarked grave somewhere outside Scarwall it would feel wrong meeting her in a different adventure. A bit like Karzoug making a reappearance 'just because'.

Is there an official Paizo policy on reusing NPCs that might not survive to the end of the AP?

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Neriathale wrote:

Given our party dumped her in an unmarked grave somewhere outside Scarwall it would feel wrong meeting her in a different adventure. A bit like Karzoug making a reappearance 'just because'.

Is there an official Paizo policy on reusing NPCs that might not survive to the end of the AP?

Yes: officially no AP assumes that any other AP has happened. That way groups can play them in different orders, or even the published order, and not have the way that their group played invalidate a different AP.


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Laori was one of the best parts of CotCT, it would be a pleasure to see her back in an AP.

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In addition, she wouldn't be the first NPC from CotCT to reappear...

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Ramoska Arkminos pops up in part 5 of CC.

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Also, we could take him at his word on Laori Vaus.

Erik Mona wrote:
So unless we had some reason to re-illustrate her, and unless that illustration took a decidedly different approach than "cute girl in a razor-blade catsuit," there is a precisely 0% chance that I would want to make a mini of her.

... emphasis mine.

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Kalindlara wrote:
In addition, she wouldn't be the first NPC from CotCT to reappear...

At least one Curse of the Crimson Throne NPC appears in Shattered Star too. But that's obvious.

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zimmerwald1915 wrote:
Kalindlara wrote:
In addition, she wouldn't be the first NPC from CotCT to reappear...
At least one Curse of the Crimson Throne NPC appears in Shattered Star too. But that's obvious.

I didn't remember any ones that had names in CotCT reappearing in SS... but I haven't slept much today. Are you referring to any named individual?

Depending on how you define "NPC who appears in CotCT", there's one in Serpent's Skull too. ^_^


Sorshen?

The Boggard at the beginning of The Asylum Stone?

Cadrilkasta?

All just guesses, only have first four books.

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captain yesterday wrote:
Sorshen? Cadrilkasta?

These two are possible, in an Eando Kline sort of way. Cadrilkasta is, after all, the owner of one of the Relics of Kazavon. (She was greener then, if I recall.)

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IIRC it's the Gray Maiden commander, whose name I can't recall.


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But Oriana wasn't in CotCT, unless it's the Grey Maidens in general.


I would be 100% okay with this, considering it was Laori who drew my attention to CotCT in the first place.

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Charlie Bell wrote:
IIRC it's the Gray Maiden commander, whose name I can't recall.

Sabina gets a mention in Shattered Star, but that's all.

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Kalindlara wrote:
Charlie Bell wrote:
IIRC it's the Gray Maiden commander, whose name I can't recall.
Sabina gets a mention in Shattered Star, but that's all.

And only for the GM (in case the Player group had placed someone else on the throne).

I must keep this thread alive.

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I could see her making a cameo in Strange Aeons, actually.


Laori was our group's favorite NPC from CoCT as well. She was so positive and perky! As opposed to Count Obviously Going To Betray Us we dragged around for a chapter; we referred to those hangers-on as "The Boner Squad" to their faces. The vast majority of NPCs you meet in APs are grey and blah, either "I'm cagey!" or "I am a no nonsense authority figure!" or "I have no personality other than needing help!"

We also liked that Grau guy, but in the end he didn't have as much game as Vencarlo so my PC ended up going after him instead. And that one Shoanti guy. CoCT had a lot more memorable NPCs than the average. (I think maybe sometimes devs lose track of the fact that memorable = enjoyable to actually interact with).

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Ernest Mueller wrote:

Laori was our group's favorite NPC from CoCT as well. She was so positive and perky! As opposed to Count Obviously Going To Betray Us we dragged around for a chapter; we referred to those hangers-on as "The Boner Squad" to their faces. The vast majority of NPCs you meet in APs are grey and blah, either "I'm cagey!" or "I am a no nonsense authority figure!" or "I have no personality other than needing help!"

We also liked that Grau guy, but in the end he didn't have as much game as Vencarlo so my PC ended up going after him instead. And that one Shoanti guy. CoCT had a lot more memorable NPCs than the average. (I think maybe sometimes devs lose track of the fact that memorable = enjoyable to actually interact with).

From what I heard(from someone asking if anyone has ever actually allied with the other guy), isn't the betrayer the one you doesn't ally with?

Anyway, that personality problem sounds rather alarming if your gm can only play npc in three ways(though I'm assuming that cagey means Nicholas Cage so thats awesome/hilarious) .-. I'm bit sceptical about all APs only having 3 types of npc, though some roles do keep repeating.

Like if enemy npc also belong to those three categories... Or wait, are you just counting non hostile npc? ._.

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CorvusMask wrote:
Ernest Mueller wrote:

Laori was our group's favorite NPC from CoCT as well. She was so positive and perky! As opposed to Count Obviously Going To Betray Us we dragged around for a chapter; we referred to those hangers-on as "The Boner Squad" to their faces. The vast majority of NPCs you meet in APs are grey and blah, either "I'm cagey!" or "I am a no nonsense authority figure!" or "I have no personality other than needing help!"

We also liked that Grau guy, but in the end he didn't have as much game as Vencarlo so my PC ended up going after him instead. And that one Shoanti guy. CoCT had a lot more memorable NPCs than the average. (I think maybe sometimes devs lose track of the fact that memorable = enjoyable to actually interact with).

From what I heard(from someone asking if anyone has ever actually allied with the other guy), isn't the betrayer the one you doesn't ally with?

Anyway, that personality problem sounds rather alarming if your gm can only play npc in three ways(though I'm assuming that cagey means Nicholas Cage so thats awesome/hilarious) .-. I'm bit sceptical about all APs only having 3 types of npc, though some roles do keep repeating.

Like if enemy npc also belong to those three categories... Or wait, are you just counting non hostile npc? ._.

Yes, non-hostile. Hostile NPCs tend to suffer a bad ending.

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