Captian Von Spicy Wiener |
As it's staying in the head slot (which includes lots of masks/face coverings), I'd probably allow it, though you can't try to claim any other mechanical benefit as a result (i.e. "He can't tell I'm a tiefling, I'm wearing a mask!"). I would expect table variation, though.
I completely agree. The only point is for flavoring.
Sebastian Hirsch Venture-Captain, Germany—Bavaria |
It depends on your definition of mask I guess, are you talking about the classic Japanese helmet with face plate (in PFS this usually comes with an O-yoroi armor.
In that case it could work since it would apply to the same slot, or since you could presumably war the jingasa on top of a nonmagical helmet, this should work, but I am no expert on the re-skinning rules.
Captian Von Spicy Wiener |
I would like it to be a Helm of the Fortunate Warrior. The only reason I don't buy one is its eastern look clashes aesthetically with my western full plate armor. If I wanted a clown suit I could go play World of Warcraft.
Pretty much what I am going for, a jingasa really clashes with my characters outfit
Jiggy RPG Superstar 2015 Top 32, RPG Superstar 2012 Top 32 |
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Honestly, I try not to think about all my gear on my characters. I don't really like the aesthetics that get produced by imagining what the character would really look like by mid to high levels. One of the things I like about PFS is that loot/gear is handled off-stage so I can more easily just use it as the "other XP track" that it basically is in 3.X/Pathfinder and kind of just look the other way when it comes to the actual items themselves. :/
pauljathome |
Its unclear to me. The sheer fact that some characters refuse to buy the hat (I've got one and I've seen others locally) because it is SO silly looking means that I think a good argument can be made that changing its look isn't just cosmetic.
On the other hand, disadvantaging players who care/ about that sort of thing doesn't seem right either
Sebastian Hirsch Venture-Captain, Germany—Bavaria |
Ferious Thune |
RocMeAsmodeus wrote:I would like it to be a Helm of the Fortunate Warrior. The only reason I don't buy one is its eastern look clashes aesthetically with my western full plate armor. If I wanted a clown suit I could go play World of Warcraft.Pretty much what I am going for, a jingasa really clashes with my characters outfit
In the Rise of the Runelords home game I played in, my halfling Gunslinger/Inquisitor detective type character reflavored it to a Fedora of the Fortunate Soldier, because, yeah, he wasn't wearing a cone on his head.
My PFS nagaji monk is happy that the silly hat he wore anyway finally gives him a mechanical bonus.
I think I generally see this ruled no, you can't technically re-flavor anything. If it comes down to it and it would make a difference whether it is a mask or a hat, it's a hat. You can't hide your identity by wearing it or anything like that. Though, as has been suggested, there is a mundane mask you can buy.
As an example, my geisha themed ninja has a Mask of Stony Demeanor. I like to describe it as a kabuki mask that turns her face into porcelain when she wears it, but, if it ever matters, her face is stone, not porcelain, and it looks however it looks in the book's description. Anyone seeing it can make a spell craft check to identify it, and I make sure to let the GM know what it is when activating it, instead of just saying "she puts on her porcelain mask." (That item has its own issues related to appearance, but I don't want to get into that here, other than to say, no matter how it's described, it is what it is, so however a GM rules its affect is how it works that game).
Sebastian Hirsch Venture-Captain, Germany—Bavaria |
Sebastian Hirsch wrote:Oh if the look is really that bad, just let them buy the ion stone with the same effect (minus the crit thing ^^)Not sure how an Ioun Stone that grants +1 Insight bonus to AC is really the same thing as an item that grants a +1 Luck bonus to AC and can negate a crit 1/day.
See classic example of me being to lazy to look it up^^
Sebastian Hirsch Venture-Captain, Germany—Bavaria |
It is my understanding that the goofy appearance is what balances out the power of the item. Wearing one makes it apparent that you're a Pathfinder and not, you know, a normal person.
-Matt
The item originally comes from the Jade Regent adventure path, and frankly in that area you stand out like a outsider if you don't have such classy headgear ^^
Benchak the Nightstalker Contributor, RPG Superstar 2010 Top 8 |
Phosphorus |
I'm fine with a PC having a Mask of the Fortunate Soldier.
But there are two important points in my opinion:
The Jingasa is described as being made of iron. As this can have game effects, you can't reskin that part; the Mask would have to be made of iron.
If a PC wants to wear it to a social event, I would give wearing the Mask the same penalties as wearing a Jingasa.
BigNorseWolf |
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Mattastrophic wrote:Since when have Pathfinders managed to look like normal people?It is my understanding that the goofy appearance is what balances out the power of the item. Wearing one makes it apparent that you're a Pathfinder and not, you know, a normal person.
-Matt
[Wednesday Adams]They're homicidal maniacs. They look just like everyone else[/Wednesday Adams]
deusvult |
Per the reskinning rules, there appears to be no reason why a jingasa could not be a kabuto, or even a western-style helmet of some kind. A jingasa, afterall, is nothing if not protective headwear. I could totally dig a Pickelhaube of the Fortunate Soldier... you just couldn't ask to impale someone with your head because you reskinned your item.
The caveat is that the GM can still insist the jingasa looks like a "funny conical hat" should he or she decide it is relevant in some way. Say, for example, if there were an NPC who might react differently to people or things from Tien-Xia.