Change of Deity Rules in PFS for a Paladin


Pathfinder Society

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I have a Paladin who is level 10 and the issue has been gnawing at me for a while.

Ive read the Paladins code/clerical code for Iomedae over and over again and every time I do, I think something else that I dont do quite right about the way I portray my Paladin vs how they should be.

My Paladin was part of the Worldwound Paladins who were charged with protecting the people of that area against the Demonic forces. However Roland was far kinder and more compassionate than most of his fellow Paladins.

He was sent to the Pathfinder Society to be a bridge of sorts between both groups. Of course now that 'theme' is over, hes had a bit of a crisis of faith. He seems the good the Pathfinder Society can do, but as a player Im not sure Iomedae is a good fit for him anymore. He dosnt seem to be as agressive as he should be for that Deity.

Can someone suggest a different God that he might move towards? I dont mind if its someone obscure (like an Empryeal Lord) just a valid choice for a more compassionate type of Paladin.

Thanks

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Based on what you have shared, I could see Korada (NG male agathion empyreal lord of foresight, forgiveness, and peace) being a good fit for your paladin.

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and NG Gods are allowed to have Paladins?

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He could still follow Iomedae, and still be part of the Mendevian Crusade's "exchange program" - my Paladin is/was right up until he hit level 13 a week or so ago.

Since as far as the PFS "canon" is concerned, the Worldwound is still a threat, the Mendevians still have much they can gain from their alliance with the Society - new methods to fight Demons, learning more about the time at which the Worldwound opened in the first place, learning more about any items related to Aroden that still have power (seeing how closely Aroden's power and fate have to the Worldwound's creation in the first place), and if nothing else, providing armed support in small numbers (I'm sure Queen Galfrey would rather spare a few paladins than a few companies of more mundane soldiers/knights) to protect Pathfinder agents who risked themselves in Mendev and the Worldwound in recent memory.

In addition, Iomedae's holy warriors still garrison the nation of Lastwall, which stands against the potential rise of the Whispering Tyrant, against the orc hordes from the Hold of Belkzen, and still in some ways against the corruption that Geb brought upon the goddess Arazni. Many paladins still live in Lastwall, and so fighting against Undead is still a way to serve Iomedae and the Society while leaving the front-lines of the Fifth Crusade behind you.

It's still very doable :)

That said, if you're concerned about your character starting to grow a bit softer being further away from the front-lines, I highly recommend picking up Chronicles of the Righteous. With Paladin as my favorite class to play in Pathfinder/D&D, it is one of my top 5 books that I am constantly finding new things to enjoy each time I read it. Several Empyreal Lords would probably fit the bill for your character!

A great place for a short overview are the Archives of Nethys, where you can look up the basics of each deity organized by pantheon or by alignment, for example: Lawful Good deities.

Hope this helps!

(Yes, you can be a Paladin with a LG, NG, or LN deity)


Yes.

I'd say Sarenrae.

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Thankyou all for the great responses!

Does anyone know much about this one:

Dalenydra
The Blessed Attendant
Source Inner Sea Gods pg. 322 (Amazon)
Pathfinder Wiki Dalenydra
Details
Alignment NG
Pantheon Empyreal Lords
Areas of Concern Battlefield healing, caregiving, sanctuaries
Domains Good, Healing, Protection, Repose
Favored Weapon Light mace

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Silver Crusade 5/5

Matthew Pittard wrote:
and NG Gods are allowed to have Paladins?

As Mike said, a deity that is NG, LG, or LN can have paladins. On that note Shelyn or Sarenrae could be good fits as well.

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She's a good one - difficult to roleplay (one of the reasons I like playing Paladins - the challenge!)

From her Wiki entry:

Dalenydra is an angel empyreal lord concerned with battlefield healing and patron of those who undertake this work and have sworn an oath of non-violence.[1]

Followers

The Blessed Attendant's workers wear a special tabard that identifies them even in melee; their code allows them to defend themselves but must not attack. Their oath is honoured by many and even enemy soldiers are known to have refused to strike a servant of Dalenydra on the battlefield.[1]

References
↑ 1.0 1.1 Amber Scott. (2013). Chronicle of the Righteous, p. 54. Paizo Publishing, LLC. ISBN 978-1-60125-506-8

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Keep in mind Iomedae isn't just the goddess of righteous ass-kickery, but also of justice and honor. Your paladin could travel with the Pathfinders to ensure they deal fairly with the people they meet.

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Joseph Kellogg wrote:
Keep in mind Iomedae isn't just the goddess of righteous ass-kickery, but also of justice and honor. Your paladin could travel with the Pathfinders to ensure they deal fairly with the people they meet.

+1 to that.

Also, he could have learned about the atrocities that Iomedaens performed during the Third Crusade, and might be looking out for such things happening again, so keeps his eyes out for followers of Iomedae doing bad things.

Another idea is that he might want to return to Cheliax (if that's where he is from) and turn the nation of devil-worship back onto the path of the righteous.

Grand Lodge

Pathfinder PF Special Edition, Starfinder Roleplaying Game Subscriber

Also keep in mind that the Pathfinders still hold a sacred relic of Iomedae, the Crown of Thorns, stolen from the faith. You can have an eventual goal of persuading the Society to return the crown some day.

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LazarX wrote:
Also keep in mind that the Pathfinders still hold a sacred relic of Iomedae, the Crown of Thorns, stolen from the faith. You can have an eventual goal of persuading the Society to return the crown some day.

Pretty sure the Thorncrown went missing when Woodsedge was sacked.

On topic, a paladin of Alseta might be interesting, though there's not a whole lot of information out there about her.

-TimD

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I think its just an atonement to convert, as long as you're not one of those funny deity specific archetypes.

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Since a paladin is not changing alignments, no atonement is necessary:

"A character may only worship one deity at a time; the character may change which deity she worships between sessions at no cost. If this change requires the character to change alignment, the character is required to pay for an atonement. Any element incompatible with the new deity no longer functions. These elements may be retrained at normal cost using the rules from Ultimate Campaign.

For example, a cleric of Desna with the Travel and Luck domains and the Butterfly Sting feat switches her worship to Shelyn. The cleric may still use the Luck domain because Shelyn grants that domain, but not the Travel domain or the Butterfly Sting feat, because worship of Shelyn does not grant access to those features."

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Thank you. I keep losing track of that...

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Thanks. Ive picked Korada, as I went and read through Iomedaes Guide to Paladins again and Im definetly not doing a lot of stuff I should be doing.

As my character is from Mendev its still a strange choice as Korada reads very much like a Tien based God.

Silver Crusade 5/5

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Not necessarily as strange as you might think, the Society sent a team to a temple devoted to Korada back in season 3. Said temple was inside the Hao Jin Tapestry, so it stands to reason that members of the society have had ample exposure to Korada.

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Good point Mitch!.

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What about a case if the OP's paladin had a religion trait specific to Iomedae? When changing gods, that trait would be illegal and there's no rules in the Ultimate Campaign book for retraining traits. Would there now be an empty trait slot?

Grand Lodge 4/5

They'd have a trait they could no longer use that they couldn't get rid of, yes.

2/5

Ouch. Well good to know.

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I'll put in a good word for Andoletta, ie Grandmother Crow. She's the LG Empyreal Lord of Consolation, Respect, and Security.

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