This may be purely subjective but I am asking for a consensus.
What are the ideal measurements for what would be considered "hot" for dwarven females? What would be as they say "lanky"?
It's research for a backstory.
60-60-60?
not talking tokien dwarves
There is a chart in the Core Rule Book about the heights and proportions of all the core races.
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Hot to other dwarves or hot to humans, elves or halflings?
Sweet is what comes to mind for me. A woman that would work along side you, fight along side you, drink you under the table, and still have a smile for you at the end of the day. Probably also an awesome cook, as I tend to think of dwarves as being very traditional in some ways. Might good-naturedly arm-wrestle you to determine who wins a disagreement instead of arguing about it. Also the last line of defense for the clan, fighting to their last breath against deadly invaders.
Not sure if this answers your question or not, but this is what I picture an awesome dwarf woman to be like.
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Shardra doesn't have a beard.
Not one that is visible on that image.
'Hot' will vary from person to person. Any of the female dwarves I have seen in Pathfinder are beardless. Dwarves are short and broad. From most of the literature I have read that actually has female dwarves, which is minimal since most people seem to think they don't matter, the pretty dwarf woman is smooth skinned with rosy cheeks. Long think braided hair (female Dwarfs beard equivalent), skilled in ether combat or running of a house. And not to tall.
Though personally I agree with Guang.
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Shardra doesn't have a beard.Not one that is visible on that image.
Let's assume the standard meaning of beard to indicate facial hair on the jaw and chin and not any euphemisms.
In which case she doesn't have one.
There is a chart in the Core Rule Book about the heights and proportions of all the core races.
Height and weight, maybe. Not proportions.
I doubt there's a universal answer any more than there's a universal answer among (real-life) humans. Psychologists have studied female beauty for a long time, and they've found a few universal aspects of it (there's a pretty ideal waist/hips ratio, and facial symmetry is always nice), but there's also a lot that is simply cultural and time-bound as well. The American flapper of the 1920s was waif-thin and flat-chested, while the 1950s "sweater girl" was, um,... not. The 1960s brought Twiggy-clones and "androgyny," which turned into the athletic 80s, and then back to "heroin chic" for the 1990s.
I've always assumed that dwarven fashion and beauty standards are similarly variable (although perhaps at a slower rate, given the difference in lifespan) --- and Sharda doesn't have a beard for the same reason that Seoni doesn't have hairy legs and armpits, or that Valeros doesn't have a beard, a reason which has little to do with genetics and everything to do with razors. Valeros' grandfather in the 1960s probably sported a beard like a rosebush, a peace headband, and wore tie-dyed armor.
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Ah to be a young dwarf again. The hottest dwarf I ever met was Mrs Ferronson. I never expected her to be a big factor in my life, until just after I graduated from my apprenticeship at the Metalsmith's Guild. At my ceremony, Bjorn Stonegut took me aside and said "Kegnar, I just want to say one word to you. Just one word." I waited, and he said, "Are you listening, Kegnar?" When I assured him I was, he just said,"Mithral." I wasn't sure what he meant, and the whole thing made me uncomfortable, so I offered to wheel Mrs. Ferronson home, since she'd had a bit too much stout. Well, there was a really awkward moment at her place when she came on to me. I mean, I was fresh out of my apprenticeship. And wow, Mrs. Ferronson. Yeah, she was 172. But she had the body of a 65-year-old. At 3'11", she was stacked. I mean 160 lbs in all the right places. I'd say she had 52" hips, but I'm sure her waist was only 45"! And, well, later when we got more involved, let's just say we drank abundantly from her shieldmaiden armor pieces. In all the years since then, I have yet to meet a dwarven warrior woman with a Charisma to rival hers.
Still does not answer the question.
So here's the picture that is to be a dwarf's fiance.
http://media.themefield.com/data/61/original.jpg
My thinking for the backstory is her future mother in law, whom is very traditionally minded would think she is way too skinny.
My thinking for the backstory is her future mother in law, whom is very traditionally minded would think she is way too skinny.
Okay, that's fine. I can say that without even looking at the picture.
Hell, I've met women today who are telling their daughters (typically in a Jewish-American accent) "How are you going to get a husband, as skinny as you are?" when the daughter is frantically trying to match what she sees on the cover of magazines.
Different (sub)cultures. From Scrubs:
J.D.: Is there some special way to get a black girl to like you?Turk: Dude, the only difference between a black girl and a white girl is that when a black girl asks you if her ass looks big?
J.D.: Uh-huh?
Turk: You say, "Hell yeah!"
In one of my settings dwarves and elves are male and female of the same fairy race. So this answer might not by the best, but an elf lady with visible muscle tone and numerous hunting trophies is the most desirable. If she has a dragon skull at home then all the boys come calling.
Shardra doesn't have a beard.Not one that is visible on that image.Let's assume the standard meaning of beard to indicate facial hair on the jaw and chin and not any euphemisms.
In which case she doesn't have one.
Depends. Does Valeros have a beard? If not, why not?
If we're talking about sexual dimorphism here -- and making some fairly reasonable assumptions -- then, yes, Valeros has a beard, as does Sajan. Seoni, Seelah, and Amiri do not. Even though none of them have a visible beard in their pictures.
I guess beards for human men are "out" this year in Golarion.
Um yea not the fashion nazis
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Not even if she's a carnie?
I think 4th Edition D&D, despite all it's problems, had great artwork for dwarven females. They still followed the basics of dwarven biology, but were still attractive. You should check it out.
Heres the backstory
Frigga is the 8th daughter of Fosgrim Wyrmbane; she was born premature and was not expected to survive. Yet somehow she did. She was the smallest of the Wyrmbane clan; her mother still doted on the young girl. As she grew up she was the subject of much ridicule from the other dwarven girls. She was constantly bullied and picked on. Despite how strong she became Frigga was entirely too skinny to be an attractive dwarven woman. She had an hourglass body shape, with broad shoulders and hips when she came into puberty. The girls said she would never find a man to marry she looked too much like a human. Frigga knew this as well, so she turned to the one thing she was good at, fighting. She took to the sword quite easily, plus with her slight stature, for a dwarf, she had a speed advantage on many of her sparring partners.
Frigga’s life was not quite as full as she wanted. However, one day she caught the eye of that bastard dwarf Magnusson Thorstone. She was still pretty sure she could do better and resisted his advances. Her mother not wanting to see her daughter’s heart broken yet another time thought this was genuine and encouraged Frigga to accept his courtship. Even still there were rumors that it wouldn’t last. The two were head over heels in love with each other. On the 1st anniversary of the courtship Magnusson had crafted a specially balanced sword just for Frigga. On the next year he designed and hand crafted a suit of steel lamellar armor for her. It was beautifully made to compliment and flaunted her amazing human like figure. Impressed with his intellect and skill as a craftsman she knew he was the one. On their third anniversary he asked for her hand which she accepted but only on the condition of him getting her father’s permission.
She talked Magnusson into designing a great cannon to catapult his budding career at the Alknestar Gunworks. He agreed it would be a good idea to impress her father with a demonstration of his skills as a craftsman and engineer. The gun would also cement his position as senior engineer and thus be worthy enough for Frigga’s father.
On the fated day everything was set. She and her father were to attend the ceremony after which she knew Magnusson would ask her father for her hand. She was dressed in her finest gown and had her long blonde hair braided in the style of the ancient dwarven ways. Tragically everything went wrong. The cannon exploded killing several people including a few dwarves. Everyone blamed Magnusson since it was his design and add to that he had disappeared. Later Frigga found a letter saying that Magnusson had received a letter from his father. It also said that he didn’t want her to come because he wanted her to be safe. She was humiliated and furious that he had the gall to assume she couldn’t take care of herself nor did he give her the choice to decide in the first place. She packed her things, donned the perfectly fitted armor he made for her and grabbed her sword to go after her man and get a real explanation.
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Still does not answer the question.
So here's the picture that is to be a dwarf's fiance.
My thinking for the backstory is her future mother in law, whom is very traditionally minded would think she is way too skinny.
That does look very skinny for a dwarf. Especially in the hips. Dwarves should have a low center of gravity.
yea like I said premature and all.