Adjule |
But it looks like the Hunter will have abilities that greatly improve the animal companion, making it stronger than the Druid's companion.
Making a comparison to World of Warcraft (yeah yeah, I know), the Hunter in the ACG makes me think of the Beastmaster spec'd Hunter. All the (old) talents were basically things that improved the pet's combat capabilities, with slight increases to the hunter's.
I will reserve my judgement until Tuesday. But so far, this class is one of them that intrigues me. I couldn't really ever get into a ranger (D&D or Pathfinder).
Zark |
By the sound of that, it's just "take Ranger, upgrade it's animal companion."
No way that constitutes an entirely new class.
The Hunter/beast master is a classic D&D niche that hasn’t really been executed perfectly.
The Druid has too much spells and wild shape.The Ranger’s pet is to weak and the class has too much focus on the Ranger.
The Summoner is too weird.
Agree, perhaps this could have been fixed using archetypes, but we don’t know anything about the class. What if the Hunter can wild shape into a beast and work as a pack with his/her animal companion(s)?
Even though I don't like team work feats or classes with pets it will still be interesting to see what this class is all about. I hardly think it is just a ranger, without FE but with a druid pet and some team work feats.
Name Violation |
By the sound of that, it's just "take Ranger, upgrade it's animal companion."
No way that constitutes an entirely new class.(Also, better than Druid AC? Druids already have the best ACs in the game.)
actually oracles have the best companions. level + 1/2 ANIMAL COMPANION. 18th level at 12 for example
Alexander Augunas Contributor |
I'm guessing that the Hunter will be a spell-less ranger, as that's something everyone has been clamoring for.
If I had to make more guesses, I'm predicting a 1st-level animal companion without the type restrictions of the ranger, combat styles, the "wilderness survival" abilities (woodland stride and trackless step), favored terrain, and a modified version of quarry and camouflage.
Feros |
I'm guessing that the Hunter will be a spell-less ranger, as that's something everyone has been clamoring for.
If I had to make more guesses, I'm predicting a 1st-level animal companion without the type restrictions of the ranger, combat styles, the "wilderness survival" abilities (woodland stride and trackless step), favored terrain, and a modified version of quarry and camouflage.
Actually there are two archetypes of ranger that replace spell-casting: the skirmisher and the trapper.
Chief Cook and Bottlewasher |
how does one get into the playtest?
You download the package when it becomes available, build some characters and play them. Then post feedback in the appropriate thread, whether it's problems understanding the package, building the characters or problems in play.
You don't need to do anything else - no registration, for example.Neo2151 |
Now that I think about it, here's the description I find:
Hunter: Taking powers from both the druid and the ranger, the hunter is never without her trusted animal companion, hunting down foes with lethal accuracy.
What part of that says anything other than, "this class will have a pet?" I don't see where the idea is coming from that it will be pet-focused any more than a Ranger. (Unless there's another description I haven't seen? If so, link please?)
Shisumo |
Neil Spicer filed a report from Buhlman's seminar at MACE this past weekend, and it said this about the hunter:
Hunter - This is a druid/ranger mash-up focusing pretty heavily on the tandem of a hunter with an animal companion. Both he and the animal companion get teamwork feats which they can obviously use in synergy with one another.
Kryzbyn |
Neil Spicer filed a report from Buhlman's seminar at MACE this past weekend, and it said this about the hunter:
Neil Spicer wrote:Hunter - This is a druid/ranger mash-up focusing pretty heavily on the tandem of a hunter with an animal companion. Both he and the animal companion get teamwork feats which they can obviously use in synergy with one another.
Sounds a bit like the Squig Herder/White Lion classes from Warhammer: Age of Reckoning.
Marc Radle |
I'm guessing that the Hunter will be a spell-less ranger, as that's something everyone has been clamoring for.
Agreed, although I might add that a great many folks clamoring for such a class have embraced the Spell-less Ranger from Kobold Press
Makarion |
Neil Spicer filed a report from Buhlman's seminar at MACE this past weekend, and it said this about the hunter:
Neil Spicer wrote:Hunter - This is a druid/ranger mash-up focusing pretty heavily on the tandem of a hunter with an animal companion. Both he and the animal companion get teamwork feats which they can obviously use in synergy with one another.
I wonder how this will compare with the Huntmaster archetype Cavalier. It does sound virtually identical in style, to be honest.
Kryzbyn |
Dunno.
Giving the magical beast idea a second thought, I don;t see them going through the trouble of giving a list of magical beasts that will work, at level 1 and levels 4-7 for the increase. Be much easier to use the druid list as is. Maybe templates? Or a list of evolution-like things?
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Zark |
Makarion wrote:It sounds like a full druid-level animal companion with full ranger Bab, plus bonus teamwork feats. I expect no spellcasting at all to be honest.It seems odd to me that mixing a caster and another caster would lead to no spellcasting. Doesn't mean it won't happen.
-1 x -1 = +1
So who knows ;)