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Soilent wrote:
Was that the one with Time traveling whales?

That's IV, which I personally can't stand but was very well received.


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Simon Legrande wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I can't make it more then 5 minutes into the Matrix before I have to shut it off.
Can't really shun you for that. I've seen it precisely once, when it first came out on VHS. I wasn't impressed.
I loved all three, but I'm willing to admit that they were only slightly above average as sci-fi movies go. That being said, I'm a philosophy buff and the underlying ideas that the movies are based on elevated them for me.

Matrix I was a great special effects action film, as long as you didnt stop to think about the silly concept.


BigDTBone wrote:
Soilent wrote:
Was that the one with Time traveling whales?
That's IV, which I personally can't stand but was very well received.

I loved 4! but i was quite young, still who doesn't love Spock, McCoy and Scotty dealing with late 80s-early 90s culture:-) "One damn minute Captain!"


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DrDeth wrote:
Simon Legrande wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I can't make it more then 5 minutes into the Matrix before I have to shut it off.
Can't really shun you for that. I've seen it precisely once, when it first came out on VHS. I wasn't impressed.
I loved all three, but I'm willing to admit that they were only slightly above average as sci-fi movies go. That being said, I'm a philosophy buff and the underlying ideas that the movies are based on elevated them for me.
Matrix I was a great special effects action film, as long as you didnt stop to think about the silly concept.

Get out of my brain, DrDeth. You're not paying rent, as far as I know!


I don't like Harry Potter, i think Rowling should've killed Ron off, he was a D-Bag.

Also i've never made it past chapter one of book one, so my opinion of Ron is based entirely on the 5 movies i've seen (i haven't seen the last 3)


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Rynjin wrote:
Kryzbyn wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Kryzbyn. OMG. Have you played Portal yet?
Nope. For pretty much the same reason.

Seems awfully silly to deprive yourself of a good experience just because someone can confirm that it is, in fact, a good experience.

My brother used to be the same way. I'd say "This is good" (or someone else would) he'd say "I'm not interested". Or give it a token "try".

"I read the first page and I didn't like it. Meh."

Thankfully, he grew out of that around the time he turned 15.

Really all you're doing is hurting yourself, in a sense, so it's really not something to be proud of.

Anyway, I don't enjoy puzzle games much, either, no matter how much it's hyped (or over hyped).

Things tend go get over-shared, so there's nothing left to enjoy or explore.
I'm not depriving myself of anything. I jealously guard my free time, so with less out there to "OMG YOU GOTTA.." there's less time soaks for me.


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4 was good, just as long as you were happy with a comedy.


The Alkenstarian wrote:
DrDeth wrote:
Simon Legrande wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I can't make it more then 5 minutes into the Matrix before I have to shut it off.
Can't really shun you for that. I've seen it precisely once, when it first came out on VHS. I wasn't impressed.
I loved all three, but I'm willing to admit that they were only slightly above average as sci-fi movies go. That being said, I'm a philosophy buff and the underlying ideas that the movies are based on elevated them for me.
Matrix I was a great special effects action film, as long as you didnt stop to think about the silly concept.
Get out of my brain, DrDeth. You're not paying rent, as far as I know!

Sorry, it's being this whole Evil Dark Lord thing, you just can't stop reading peoples minds, they're like peanuts... in many ways....

;-)


I think Robert Pattinson is a decent actor.


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knightnday wrote:
Rynjin wrote:
Kryzbyn wrote:
Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Kryzbyn. OMG. Have you played Portal yet?
Nope. For pretty much the same reason.

Seems awfully silly to deprive yourself of a good experience just because someone can confirm that it is, in fact, a good experience.

My brother used to be the same way. I'd say "This is good" (or someone else would) he'd say "I'm not interested". Or give it a token "try".

"I read the first page and I didn't like it. Meh."

Thankfully, he grew out of that around the time he turned 15.

Really all you're doing is hurting yourself, in a sense, so it's really not something to be proud of.

I think some of it depends on where you get your recommendations from. There are people that suggest movies to me that I am sure do not know anything about me despite having met me and talked to me for years.

Sometimes you find a happy gem in the suggestions, but often I find myself very displeased with their recommendations.

It's a little bit of this.


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DrDeth wrote:
The Alkenstarian wrote:
DrDeth wrote:
Simon Legrande wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I can't make it more then 5 minutes into the Matrix before I have to shut it off.
Can't really shun you for that. I've seen it precisely once, when it first came out on VHS. I wasn't impressed.
I loved all three, but I'm willing to admit that they were only slightly above average as sci-fi movies go. That being said, I'm a philosophy buff and the underlying ideas that the movies are based on elevated them for me.
Matrix I was a great special effects action film, as long as you didnt stop to think about the silly concept.
Get out of my brain, DrDeth. You're not paying rent, as far as I know!

Sorry, it's being this whole Evil Dark Lord thing, you just can't stop reading peoples minds, they're like peanuts... in many ways....

;-)

Mmmmmh ... peeeeanuts!

*Homer-Simpson-Donut-Drool*


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I love new feats and new classes.


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I've never been a fan of Psoinics or stuff like it, however I am genuinely interested in Occult Adventures and will most likely get it as soon as it's out :-)

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captain yesterday wrote:

I don't like Harry Potter, i think Rowling should've killed Ron off, he was a D-Bag.

Also i've never made it past chapter one of book one, so my opinion of Ron is based entirely on the 5 movies i've seen (i haven't seen the last 3)

One of the nice things about the Harry Potter series is that you could actually see JK Rowling becoming a better writer in each book. The first one was (IMO) not very good -- but by book 3 they were well worth reading. There are a lot of things I think went wrong with the last book -- but last books are hard, especially when everyone in the world is reading over your shoulder.

I mean, she's no Ursula K LeGuin (whose Earthsea books remain my favorite YA), but she's no Stephanie Meyer either.


captain yesterday wrote:
I've never been a fan of Psoinics or stuff like it, however I am genuinely interested in Occult Adventures and will most likely get it as soon as it's out :-)

see I don't know why people don't like psionics its awesome!!! mind powers!!! I know the some of it feels overpowered but its easy to make any class feel overpowered


pH unbalanced wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

I don't like Harry Potter, i think Rowling should've killed Ron off, he was a D-Bag.

Also i've never made it past chapter one of book one, so my opinion of Ron is based entirely on the 5 movies i've seen (i haven't seen the last 3)

One of the nice things about the Harry Potter series is that you could actually see JK Rowling becoming a better writer in each book. The first one was (IMO) not very good -- but by book 3 they were well worth reading. There are a lot of things I think went wrong with the last book -- but last books are hard, especially when everyone in the world is reading over your shoulder.

I mean, she's no Ursula K LeGuin (whose Earthsea books remain my favorite YA), but she's no Stephanie Meyer either.

I can understand this I was not into HP when I was a kid but when I began to date my now wife she convinced me to read the books and yes the first one is mhee but you have to realize the first to the third books are more of kids books and the last four are YA she did get better as they continued but the final battle I the movie was WAY better then the book


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I actually think Lovecraft was a pretty awful writer. All of the ability to create interesting mythos and world settings that could possibly exist don't make up for a lack of basic readability. Everything I've tried to read by him was unfinishable, and audio books put me to sleep or get tuned out.


I've never read anything by Lovecraft, tho I'm pretty sure I've mentioned that before :-)


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Riuk wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I've never been a fan of Psoinics or stuff like it, however I am genuinely interested in Occult Adventures and will most likely get it as soon as it's out :-)
see I don't know why people don't like psionics its awesome!!! mind powers!!! I know the some of it feels overpowered but its easy to make any class feel overpowered

Psionics isn't overpowered it's just better.

Oh and I will also be buying Occult Adventures


I have never read Lovecraft ether I love the mythos but I just cant get into the books...


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I've been a Lovecraft fan since I first heard of the Mythos in the original 1e Deities and Demigods book. I'm reading his complete collection on my Kindle for the second time, with some stories having been read many times. I also loved the Harry Potter books, and I give them a great amount of credit for getting kids to read when they might not otherwise have done so.


captain yesterday wrote:
I've never been a fan of Psoinics or stuff like it, however I am genuinely interested in Occult Adventures and will most likely get it as soon as it's out :-)

I'm a huge Psionics fan and am greatly looking forward to Occult Adventures. In my two decades old homebrew world the two will dovetail perfectly.


Confession: more and more everyday I would like an Ignore feature. Or an unlike. Or a bomb.


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Riuk wrote:
pH unbalanced wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

I don't like Harry Potter, i think Rowling should've killed Ron off, he was a D-Bag.

Also i've never made it past chapter one of book one, so my opinion of Ron is based entirely on the 5 movies i've seen (i haven't seen the last 3)

One of the nice things about the Harry Potter series is that you could actually see JK Rowling becoming a better writer in each book. The first one was (IMO) not very good -- but by book 3 they were well worth reading. There are a lot of things I think went wrong with the last book -- but last books are hard, especially when everyone in the world is reading over your shoulder.

I mean, she's no Ursula K LeGuin (whose Earthsea books remain my favorite YA), but she's no Stephanie Meyer either.

I can understand this I was not into HP when I was a kid but when I began to date my now wife she convinced me to read the books and yes the first one is mhee but you have to realize the first to the third books are more of kids books and the last four are YA she did get better as they continued but the final battle I the movie was WAY better then the book

HP has the unusual distinction of being a series that very noticeably changes tone as the series progresses. In #1, the protagonists are innocent kids, and the tone and conclusion are 100% rated-G. A few books later, the climax of the book is a good kid dying right before teenage-Harry's eyes. And of course #7 ends with beloved characters being killed in the very first chapter, and things don't get any softer for the protagonists as they're forced to grow up all too quickly.

And at the risk of triggering Kryzbyn...

Spoiler:
OMG HAVE YOU READ HARRY POTTER YET, IT'S THE BEST SERIES EVAAAR?!


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knightnday wrote:
Confession: more and more everyday I would like an Ignore feature. Or an unlike. Or a bomb.

Where do you get your explosives, I've been using Acme for years with no results, I'm starting to think maybe they're the problem with catching that a!&+%*& bird....


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DrDeth wrote:
Simon Legrande wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I can't make it more then 5 minutes into the Matrix before I have to shut it off.
Can't really shun you for that. I've seen it precisely once, when it first came out on VHS. I wasn't impressed.
I loved all three, but I'm willing to admit that they were only slightly above average as sci-fi movies go. That being said, I'm a philosophy buff and the underlying ideas that the movies are based on elevated them for me.
Matrix I was a great special effects action film, as long as you didnt stop to think about the silly concept.

Yeah, I understand that old folks usually go into nap mode when confronted with things that take a little energy to grasp. :p


I would like to run one game, just one game, where I do not get embroiled in a discussion of the nuances of stealth, concealment, and sneak attack


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Simon Legrande wrote:
Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Simon Legrande wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I can't make it more then 5 minutes into the Matrix before I have to shut it off.
Can't really shun you for that. I've seen it precisely once, when it first came out on VHS. I wasn't impressed.
I loved all three, but I'm willing to admit that they were only slightly above average as sci-fi movies go. That being said, I'm a philosophy buff and the underlying ideas that the movies are based on elevated them for me.
I watched the first Matrix in a religion class, because the professor loves gnosticism. I think I've also been part of philosophical Matrix conversations, but I can't remember any specific themes. What are your favorites?

It's interesting to see their treatment of the allegory of the cave. Some of the subtext regarding purpose was also interesting, though I never really bought into it.

Edit: I also liked the conversation in the train station at the beginning of the third. Talking about the difference between words and the thoughts they are meant to convey. I'm going to be picking up a book on general semantics in the near future which goes into greater depth on the subject.

...Ah yes, I can see the allegory to the allegory of the cave.

Cave = Matrix
Freed Prisoner = Neo
Reflection of Sun in Water = "Stop trying to hit me, and hit me!" (?) "I'm sorry kiddo, but you're not the One." (?)
The Sun Itself = "The spoon isn't really there." (?) Neo's death, resurrection, and Smith-dive?

Well, I can sort of see it, I guess. What's your take on it?

I think you're going a little more specific than I would.

Cave = matrix
People looking at shadows = all the connected humans
Freed prisoners = everyone being freed
Pain from the sunlight = rejecting the real world as real
Return to the cave = finally accepting the real world then returning to the matrix to free more minds

The whole Neo/Smith connection is pretty standard good and evil are two sides of the same coin, balance is the ideal state trope. If you played Ultima 7 - 9 it was easy to see coming.

Then the whole purpose in life and cycle of death and life thing is almost straight up Hindu philosophy.


Simon Legrande wrote:
DrDeth wrote:
Simon Legrande wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I can't make it more then 5 minutes into the Matrix before I have to shut it off.
Can't really shun you for that. I've seen it precisely once, when it first came out on VHS. I wasn't impressed.
I loved all three, but I'm willing to admit that they were only slightly above average as sci-fi movies go. That being said, I'm a philosophy buff and the underlying ideas that the movies are based on elevated them for me.
Matrix I was a great special effects action film, as long as you didnt stop to think about the silly concept.
Yeah, I understand that old folks usually go into nap mode when confronted with things that take a little energy to grasp. :p

Get off my lawn, you young whippersnapper!


Riuk wrote:
I have never read Lovecraft ether I love the mythos but I just cant get into the books...

Try The Dream Quest.


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Riuk wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I've never been a fan of Psoinics or stuff like it, however I am genuinely interested in Occult Adventures and will most likely get it as soon as it's out :-)
see I don't know why people don't like psionics its awesome!!! mind powers!!! I know the some of it feels overpowered but its easy to make any class feel overpowered

I know I am going to be shunned when I say this, but I was so scarred by the Munchkin horror that was AD&D Psionics, I still cant get myself to want to play it. I know recent versions are much better balanced, but it's like a snake phobia, I have a terrible and unfair knee jerk reaction.

Please try to forgive an Old Grognard for this and don't shun me too much. ;-)

But if you played that version you'd understand.


Terquem wrote:
I would like to run one game, just one game, where I do not get embroiled in a discussion of the nuances of stealth, concealment, and sneak attack

Run a game where Rogues are banned

No tears will be shed

Problem solved


DrDeth wrote:
Riuk wrote:
I have never read Lovecraft ether I love the mythos but I just cant get into the books...
Try The Dream Quest.

Also, check out August Derleth. He picked up the mythos after Lovecraft died and wrote quite a few stories.


DrDeth wrote:
Simon Legrande wrote:
DrDeth wrote:
Simon Legrande wrote:
DungeonmasterCal wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I can't make it more then 5 minutes into the Matrix before I have to shut it off.
Can't really shun you for that. I've seen it precisely once, when it first came out on VHS. I wasn't impressed.
I loved all three, but I'm willing to admit that they were only slightly above average as sci-fi movies go. That being said, I'm a philosophy buff and the underlying ideas that the movies are based on elevated them for me.
Matrix I was a great special effects action film, as long as you didnt stop to think about the silly concept.
Yeah, I understand that old folks usually go into nap mode when confronted with things that take a little energy to grasp. :p
Get off my lawn, you young whippersnapper!

Remember, I still game with my 70 year old father. The rest of us take a little break at nap time until he comes back around.


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Simon Legrande wrote:
DrDeth wrote:
Riuk wrote:
I have never read Lovecraft ether I love the mythos but I just cant get into the books...
Try The Dream Quest.
Also, check out August Derleth. He picked up the mythos after Lovecraft died and wrote quite a few stories.

Now that suggestion will get you shunned. :)

I'm not really surprised people don't like Lovecraft. The prose is painful fairly often and the racism and prejudice are hard to get past. He's an idea man and a seriously screwed up one. I love it, but it's easy to see why people wouldn't. It's really easy to make fun of his ... squamous prose style.


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thegreenteagamer wrote:
I actually think Lovecraft was a pretty awful writer. All of the ability to create interesting mythos and world settings that could possibly exist don't make up for a lack of basic readability. Everything I've tried to read by him was unfinishable, and audio books put me to sleep or get tuned out.

Audiobooks depend on the reader. A good reader can make a bad book bearable, and a bad reader can make the best books flop.

Jim Dale is a talented reader. Try listening to an audiobook read by him, doesn't even matter which one.


Rynjin wrote:
Terquem wrote:
I would like to run one game, just one game, where I do not get embroiled in a discussion of the nuances of stealth, concealment, and sneak attack

Run a game where Rogues are banned

No tears will be shed

Problem solved

And Ninjas, and Slayers, and Vivisectionists,and Arcane tricksters, and Sandmen, and Master spies, and Bushwhackers, and....


thejeff wrote:
Simon Legrande wrote:
DrDeth wrote:
Riuk wrote:
I have never read Lovecraft ether I love the mythos but I just cant get into the books...
Try The Dream Quest.
Also, check out August Derleth. He picked up the mythos after Lovecraft died and wrote quite a few stories.

Now that suggestion will get you shunned. :)

I'm not really surprised people don't like Lovecraft. The prose is painful fairly often and the racism and prejudice are hard to get past. He's an idea man and a seriously screwed up one. I love it, but it's easy to see why people wouldn't. It's really easy to make fun of his ... squamous prose style.

I'm not sure I actually read anything by Lovecraft, but I did read a collection of short stories by Derleth which I thought was pretty good. As long as you're ok with the feeling of being left hanging.


Krensky wrote:
If memory serves, that was the studio's fault. The original explanation for the matrix was processing power, not electrical power.

Oh, hey, you ninja'd me. I blame the lack of avatar.


DrDeth wrote:
Rynjin wrote:
Terquem wrote:
I would like to run one game, just one game, where I do not get embroiled in a discussion of the nuances of stealth, concealment, and sneak attack

Run a game where Rogues are banned

No tears will be shed

Problem solved

And Ninjas, and Slayers, and Vivisectionists,and Arcane tricksters, and Sandmen, and Master spies, and Bushwhackers, and....

IME none of those care quite as much about getting Sneak Attack, since they have other class features, so there's no real discussion beyond "Can I Sneak Attack?" "Yes/No." "Okay."

I can't remember the last time my Slayer legitimately got Sneak Attack. I think the last time he got it at all was when I made an off-hand remark about surprising an invisible enemy with my ability to see Invisible things and KC was like "Sure".

I keep forgetting I have it, even.


GM DarkLightHitomi wrote:
thegreenteagamer wrote:
I actually think Lovecraft was a pretty awful writer. All of the ability to create interesting mythos and world settings that could possibly exist don't make up for a lack of basic readability. Everything I've tried to read by him was unfinishable, and audio books put me to sleep or get tuned out.

Audiobooks depend on the reader. A good reader can make a bad book bearable, and a bad reader can make the best books flop.

Jim Dale is a talented reader. Try listening to an audiobook read by him, doesn't even matter which one.

I don't think Lovecraft is a good subject for audiobooks, actually. Lovecraft is a great writer to "skim"—you can look over a paragraph, determine if it's rambling about penguin mating habits or Florinese queen-preparation customs, and decide whether or not it's important to the overall text. If it's not, you move on.

Audiobooks, though? Hoo boy. You're in for the long haul. :P


Rynjin wrote:
DrDeth wrote:
Rynjin wrote:
Terquem wrote:
I would like to run one game, just one game, where I do not get embroiled in a discussion of the nuances of stealth, concealment, and sneak attack

Run a game where Rogues are banned

No tears will be shed

Problem solved

And Ninjas, and Slayers, and Vivisectionists,and Arcane tricksters, and Sandmen, and Master spies, and Bushwhackers, and....

IME none of those care quite as much about getting Sneak Attack, since they have other class features, so there's no real discussion beyond "Can I Sneak Attack?" "Yes/No." "Okay."

I can't remember the last time my Slayer legitimately got Sneak Attack. I think the last time he got it at all was when I made an off-hand remark about surprising an invisible enemy with my ability to see Invisible things and KC was like "Sure".

I keep forgetting I have it, even.

Oh, come on, you get it all the time! Whenever you get a flank, that is. Which would probably happen a lot more often if you weren't always bashing poor monsters into walls.


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Tequila Sunrise wrote:
Riuk wrote:
pH unbalanced wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:

I don't like Harry Potter, i think Rowling should've killed Ron off, he was a D-Bag.

Also i've never made it past chapter one of book one, so my opinion of Ron is based entirely on the 5 movies i've seen (i haven't seen the last 3)

One of the nice things about the Harry Potter series is that you could actually see JK Rowling becoming a better writer in each book. The first one was (IMO) not very good -- but by book 3 they were well worth reading. There are a lot of things I think went wrong with the last book -- but last books are hard, especially when everyone in the world is reading over your shoulder.

I mean, she's no Ursula K LeGuin (whose Earthsea books remain my favorite YA), but she's no Stephanie Meyer either.

I can understand this I was not into HP when I was a kid but when I began to date my now wife she convinced me to read the books and yes the first one is mhee but you have to realize the first to the third books are more of kids books and the last four are YA she did get better as they continued but the final battle I the movie was WAY better then the book

HP has the unusual distinction of being a series that very noticeably changes tone as the series progresses. In #1, the protagonists are innocent kids, and the tone and conclusion are 100% rated-G. A few books later, the climax of the book is a good kid dying right before teenage-Harry's eyes. And of course #7 ends with beloved characters being killed in the very first chapter, and things don't get any softer for the protagonists as they're forced to grow up all too quickly.

And at the risk of triggering Kryzbyn...
** spoiler omitted **

LOL no trigger...

I've read them all.


A better author rewriting Lovecraft's works would be a nice idea.

...I don't know, do they do literature reboots, remixes, or whatever the novel/novella/short story equivalent would be?

Because conceptually, it's not bad - I'd the man just wrote an outline and handed it to a ghostwriter, that would've been a solid improvement.

World building and great concepts do not make a good writer. Good writers require actual good writing. It's why Hickman needed Weis (I haven't seen if he has any solo stuff, but their annotations make it clear he's the world man and she's the writer - and besides her solo stuff is well written, if lacking in grand schemes), and it's why for all of Greenwood's innovation, if Salvatore and the later contributors to the world never came along, then Forgotten Realms would've faded into obscurity long, long ago - because every single Elminster book is just plain crap, and it's hard to put aside unreadable drivel to read between the lines at the concepts and innovation masked by bland prose.


Kobold Cleaver wrote:
Rynjin wrote:
DrDeth wrote:
Rynjin wrote:
Terquem wrote:
I would like to run one game, just one game, where I do not get embroiled in a discussion of the nuances of stealth, concealment, and sneak attack

Run a game where Rogues are banned

No tears will be shed

Problem solved

And Ninjas, and Slayers, and Vivisectionists,and Arcane tricksters, and Sandmen, and Master spies, and Bushwhackers, and....

IME none of those care quite as much about getting Sneak Attack, since they have other class features, so there's no real discussion beyond "Can I Sneak Attack?" "Yes/No." "Okay."

I can't remember the last time my Slayer legitimately got Sneak Attack. I think the last time he got it at all was when I made an off-hand remark about surprising an invisible enemy with my ability to see Invisible things and KC was like "Sure".

I keep forgetting I have it, even.

Oh, come on, you get it all the time! Whenever you get a flank, that is. Which would probably happen a lot more often if you weren't always bashing poor monsters into walls.

"Whenever I flank" is a pretty rare occurrence. Usually maneuvering around things is dangerous.

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Simon Legrande wrote:
DrDeth wrote:
Riuk wrote:
I have never read Lovecraft ether I love the mythos but I just cant get into the books...
Try The Dream Quest.
Also, check out August Derleth. He picked up the mythos after Lovecraft died and wrote quite a few stories.

HARDCORE shunning.


Aranna wrote:
Riuk wrote:
captain yesterday wrote:
I've never been a fan of Psoinics or stuff like it, however I am genuinely interested in Occult Adventures and will most likely get it as soon as it's out :-)
see I don't know why people don't like psionics its awesome!!! mind powers!!! I know the some of it feels overpowered but its easy to make any class feel overpowered

Psionics isn't overpowered it's just better.

Oh and I will also be buying Occult Adventures

It's one of very, very few things I flat out ban in my games. And it's not because it's overpowered. It used to be, back in the veeeery old AD&D-days but with 25+ years to fix the balancing system, it's actually okay nowadays from everything I've seen, heard and read.

It's exclusively a flavour-thing.

Psionics, in my mind, does not belong in the fantasy-section of RPGs. If I want psionics, I'll play a sci-fi game. For the same reason, I find magic in sci-fi settings to be equally odd and uncomfortable.

Example: I've played Warhammer 40-RPGs pretty extensively, and I love their take on psykers. But then there are chaos sorcerers and I've got to make all manner of mental gymnastics to cope with that.

Is this logical? Certainly not. Is it even rational or justifiable? Probably not either. But it's a matter of personal preference. Sci-fi=psionics, fantasy=magic ...

I've just gotten too old to change that, I think.


thegreenteagamer wrote:

A better author rewriting Lovecraft's works would be a nice idea.

...I don't know, do they do literature reboots, remixes, or whatever the novel/novella/short story equivalent would be?

Because conceptually, it's not bad - I'd the man just wrote an outline and handed it to a ghostwriter, that would've been a solid improvement.

World building and great concepts do not make a good writer. Good writers require actual good writing. It's why Hickman needed Weis (I haven't seen if he has any solo stuff, but their annotations make it clear he's the world man and she's the writer - and besides her solo stuff is well written, if lacking in grand schemes), and it's why for all of Greenwood's innovation, if Salvatore and the later contributors to the world never came along, then Forgotten Realms would've faded into obscurity long, long ago - because every single Elminster book is just plain crap, and it's hard to put aside unreadable drivel to read between the lines at the concepts and innovation masked by bland prose.

I don't know about direct rewrites, but a lot of writers have picked up Lovecraft's ideas and run with them - In some cases working from unfinished fragments, in others just playing with the same concepts. The other writers all tended to put their own spin on the source material, some with good, if different, results. R.E.Howard used elements in his work, but for him it was more monsters for his heroes to overcome than horror. Other, less talented, writers still put their own spin on it, but with less impressive results - Derleth is usually considered in this category.

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I read this entire thread.

I cut my teeth on Rifts, and still prefer it in a lot of ways to Pathfinder. Character-building in particular; I think Pathfinder's biggest weakness is that it doesn't let me build a psychic raptor with a lightsaber and power armor.

I despise Dreamscarred Press. I don't understand why anyone would pay money for Path of War instead of just picking up Tome of Battle, or pay money for Psionics instead of using the OGL content it's copied from; unlike baseline Pathfinder I haven't noticed any key advancements or shifts in the system. Books like Bloodforge are the type I think the company needs more of; things that are distinctly DSP instead of blatant 3.5 ripoffs. That said, Bloodforge was an interesting book full of races that are almost all overpowered. There are a few gems like the Grendels, but they're rare. The rest is boring or broken. But it tells me that elves enjoy boinking horses, so it's cool anyway.

I read the first six Harry Potter books, watched the seventh movie, and have no desire to watch the last movie or read the last book to see how the series ends.

I recognize the existence of martial/caster disparity but haven't seen any real reason for me to care.

I exclusively run gestalt games and would be very disappointed if my GMs started a game without it.

About every other session when I'm GMing, I have a moment when I stop and wonder if my players realize that I have no g&%#*&n idea what I'm doing.

I have a list of banned feats in my game. Divine Protection is not on it, nor do I think it should be.

I seriously want to find a way to slap about one in three posters in the face with a sign that says "Talk to people and don't be a dumbass". Somebody needs to give me this technology.

There's only one person one these boards I consider worthy of shunning. :D


I'm not that bad, am I?
:)

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