I think catfolks do since they're you know... catfolks. Weres on the other hand might be in heat during certain lunar phases, it just depends on the were.
If its a race with the animal genetic code as say catfolk, ratlings, lizardfolk I would say yes. That is how I run it in all games including gamma world, funny stories there involving felinoids.
I would say no. I know Golarion and D&D worlds in general are magical, but there are strong evolutionary incentives for females to not "go into heat".
Edit: I'm not sure most players with ______folk PCs are really interested in role-playing "in heat" (and the in-game complications) on a regular repeating basis.
Just use a Q-tip soaked in warm water.
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Just use a Q-tip soaked in warm water.
Ohhhh! I tried that once, it was horrible. I couldn't look at her for a week.
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Really? Really people? Does this need to be addressed. Sigh.
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It should be addressed, if for no other reason than the sheer comedic value it brings to the forums.
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And the fact that knowing things like this helps paint a fuller picture of the world. I mean, it's like [strike]all[/strike] most elves being bisexual... it adds flavour to the races.
I thought that's what the oregano and cilantro were for?
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Played a male kitsune witch going thru heat in western lands in love with a she-dwarf who saved his life and nursed him back to health but thought he was an odd human.then he slipped into his natural form,making her think he had screwed up a spell or somehow caught fox lycanthropy after his erratic behavior resulted in him attempting to use a love potion on her that she successfully saved on(damned dwarven resistance!) And then trying unnatural lust and reckless infactuation together to try to get her into bed,to the battlement of her and witnesses after he lost it and attempted to kidnap her,both of them naked,running through the streets in the dead of night before falling into a shallow pond and...cooling down.He broke down weeping in frustration and she,oblivious,promised they would find a cure for his lycanthropy.
Pretty funny session that derailed.
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Here I was about to weigh in on whether or not they should take a penalty for all that fur in a hot weather environment.
I was thinking the same thign as well.
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Just a quick question, do the more... beastial races... go into heat?
These are fantasy creatures. There is no reason for them to do so. The game does not have to mimic reality any more than you want it to. (There is also no reason for them NOT to, so choose whatever works for you.)
I mean this is right up there with... WHY THE HELL AREN'T GNOLLS MATRIARCHAL?
What in-world reason do you have that says they should be? Because they resemble an animal that is matriarchal? That's not a good enough reason to explain why a matriarchal culture took hold of the race.
Eww.
I am picturing the OP as a snickering 14 year old boy at the moment.
The writers have left nearly all explicit sexual matters to the imaginations of the players/GMs, rather than spelling out anything prurient. They are wise to do so, I believe, as teenagers are among their target customer base and explicitly or even borderline sexual content might be seen as unacceptable by parents, and because not everyone wants that kind of game.
Some people do, of course. And we are welcome to say, "yes, absolutely. Catfolk go in heat on a (monthly/semiannual/annual) basis and have the following mechanical consequences for catfolk PCs and NPCs... [insert probably poorly-thought-out and immature mechanics here]" and be as explicit about RPing that as we want to be. If a player wants a female catfolk PC to, one week out of six, be lascivious and lusty and the other five completely un-receptive to romance, then that would be actually more roeplaying than most people do, so more power to hir. (Could cause a great deal of fun, now that I think about it, for an AP like Jade Regent that involves possible romance between NPCs and PCs.)
But why should Paizo lay any of that out and force people to RP that kind of thing who don't want to?
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Played a male kitsune witch going thru heat in western lands in love with a she-dwarf who saved his life and nursed him back to health but thought he was an odd human.then he slipped into his natural form,making her think he had screwed up a spell or somehow caught fox lycanthropy after his erratic behavior resulted in him attempting to use a love potion on her that she successfully saved on(damned dwarven resistance!) And then trying unnatural lust and reckless infactuation together to try to get her into bed,to the battlement of her and witnesses after he lost it and attempted to kidnap her,both of them naked,running through the streets in the dead of night before falling into a shallow pond and...cooling down.He broke down weeping in frustration and she,oblivious,promised they would find a cure for his lycanthropy.
Pretty funny session that derailed.
You can of course play kitsune biology any way you wish to in your campaigns... but in real life foxes (and all mammals with an estrous cycle) the females go into heat, not the males. Males only respond to female heat.
Oddly, this is one thing the Book of Erotic Fantasy does not cover, treating catfolk or 'felids' as normal humans in every way except that they look like cats.
Of course, BoEF is a 3.0 sourcebook, and for some odd reason they haven't updated it to PF...
I was playing him like a stag. They lose their fuzzy little heads during rut.
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Of course, BoEF is a 3.0 sourcebook, and for some odd reason they haven't updated it to PF...
The Pathfinder Compatibility License has a clause in it that restricts adult content, for one.
And yet goblins,orcs and orges are horrific cannibalistic rapists is made abundantly clear.
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And yet goblins, orcs and orges are horrific cannibalistic rapists is made abundantly clear.
That's more about violence than sex. Paizo is a US company, so violence is for children. [/snark]
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The fetish forums are that way ---------->
What way? I don't see them?! Don't advertise a fetish forum and not deliver a link!
^.^
It's a sensationalistic piece of trash best left discussed in the fetish forums.Of course, BoEF is a 3.0 sourcebook, and for some odd reason they haven't updated it to PF...The BoEF is actually a 3.5 book.
Agreed. That book set gamers back about two decades. I vehemently hated that book and was the only one I never bought or pirated (back in my younger years when I had little concept of money).
I really only have read about it on the internet.
Agreed. That book set gamers back about two decades. I vehemently hated that book and was the only one I never bought or pirated (back in my younger years when I had little concept of money).So does that mean you never actually read the book?
Honestly, I'm still amazed by how many gamers seem to completely lose it over the idea of an RPG book where sex is anything more than a very vague allusion, let alone the central topic.
No, the BoEF wasn't very good - the photoshopped images were mediocre at best, the mechanics needed another few rounds of editing, and it focused much too much on new crunch with nowhere near enough fluff writing to put it into context.
But bad art, bad editing, and bad writing is something that a lot of books suffer from; yet the BoEF seems to attract a disparate amount of hate from people purely because it deals with sex. For the life of me, I can't figure out why, save that the very idea makes people uncomfortable, or that they think it somehow besmirches the entire hobby (and themselves by extension).
I personally applaud the book for trying to bring sex in role-playing games to greater prominence. No, it didn't succeed at what it wanted to do, but I respect that it tried. Why can't people leave it at that, or at least agree that if you don't like it then it's not for you, instead of seeming to despise the very idea of it?
I did read the book, cover to cover, as I did a lot back in those 3.5 days before I bought any book. And while there was some okay stuff in there, some of it just made me go "Really WoTC? Really?". The good stuff was okay, but the bad stuff was less tasteful and read more like a terrible slash fiction or romance novel. Voyeuristic Seer? Perversion Domain? Craft (Bondage Gear)? Yeah, no thanks.
Things that I thought were good: Rules for pregnancy, comeliness, crossbreeding... those have come up before, especially in my Kingmaker campaign since we have a Half Orc king that has married a nixie. Some of the social feats were interesting. But man, for my hate, it stems back to the fact that the book as a whole really made a lot of us DnD gamers look like your stereotypical sex starved virgins to many of our peers in high school. And in that time, I had a huge chip on my shoulder and was already fighting racial stereotypes and the nerd stereotype. Last thing I needed was more fuel to the fire in the Bible Belt. And when this book came out, everyone in our group groaned because we knew where this book was going to lead us. Also, why should we respect something that failed miserably at what it's trying to do? If the book's merits outweighed the cons, then yes I can understand that.
For the life of me, I can't figure out why, save that the very idea makes people uncomfortable, or that they think it somehow besmirches the entire hobby (and themselves by extension).
Most Americans are brainwashed to think this way: keeping sex as a taboo improves sales. I can say this because I live in the US and experience this behavior daily.
It was a White Wolf product I think
Just for the record, it wasn't actually a WoTC book right? It was 3rd party OGL.
I did read the book, cover to cover, as I did a lot back in those 3.5 days before I bought any book. And while there was some okay stuff in there, some of it just made me go "Really WoTC? Really?". The good stuff was okay, but the bad stuff was less tasteful and read more like a terrible slash fiction or romance novel. Voyeuristic Seer? Perversion Domain? Craft (Bondage Gear)? Yeah, no thanks.
Things that I thought were good: Rules for pregnancy, comeliness, crossbreeding... those have come up before, especially in my Kingmaker campaign since we have a Half Orc king that has married a nixie. Some...
You're right. It wasn't WoTC. My mistake.
As for the whole 'brainwashed' thing, that is a lot more for the older generation. Speaking for myself, I'm not at all sexually repressed or a prude. But it's really not something I want to roleplay with my friends. And there isn't anything wrong with that.
Also, this is probably getting off the topic so if anyone wishes to do this debate via PM, I'm okay with that.
It was a White Wolf product I thinkActually, it was put out by Valar Publishing (the company was formed specifically to publish the BoEF, and never released anything else - I think it's since been dissolved).
White Wolf does seem to have come into legal ownership of the book now, as they're the ones selling it through online vendors.
Wow I never even heard of that company; thanks for the clarification. Our DM picked up the book last year sometime (he buys pretty much anything in print) and I thought he said he got it on RPG Now and it was a White Wolf book.
I looked through it and thought pretty much the same thing: the photo illustration style is kind of cheesy looking and most of the stuff wasn't "offensive", just sort of titillatingly goofy. I do agree with the person that noted that the pregnancy / breeding info was interesting at least.
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Back to the original topic... as a woman, I have to deal with a monthly visitor that includes plenty of real-life headaches (pun intended). I have zero interest as a player or GM in dealing with "PCs in heat" in Pathfinder/D&D, my fun escape from real-life stress.
I might make an exception for pon farr in a Star Trek RPG, but then I'd only have to deal with it once every seven years.
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The way I play my Catfolk is that she has a cycle that's a cross between human and cat. The week before the human female 'monthly', she tends to be very well.. at least I tend to be. So I play mine as if the week before *that* she goes into a mild *heat* where she can control her reactions so it won't affect the party, but she tends to be more stand-offish with her male compatriots, unless she finds one pleasing, in which case, she doesn't jump him, but is more willing to put up with his idiocies.
I say idiocies because the group I play with is full of real life clowns, and it bleeds through on their characters. A lot.
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Oh hey, I remember posting in this thread. Ah, the mammaries...erm, memories ;)
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I mean this is right up there with... WHY THE HELL AREN'T GNOLLS MATRIARCHAL?
I dunno I've always made the Gnoll's chieftains/shaman/etc. Females while males are warriors, or outright slaves.
The fetish forums are that way ---------->What way? I don't see them?! Don't advertise a fetish forum and not deliver a link!
^.^
If your wanting catfolk and other anthros I can point you in the right directions in PM cause I draw it for a living.
Now...on topic. I guess it's up to the DM and in a serious campaign, I probably wouldn't bring it up, if everyone is on board with hilarity (also never beg me for magic items I WILL but gender changing items in if you beg) I can see 'heat' an alright thing to rp.
HOWEVER, there is some evidence that upright walking creatures (primarily us) and IIRC the great apes, don't go into heat, and that their pelvis are positioned to make the 'entrance' less pronounced. This was in a college Anthropology class, I took several years ago so exact details I'm not solid on, but suffice to say you could say that any bipedal/humanoid would not go into heat. Magical Beasts and certain monsters like lamias, centaurs, griffons, etc. Probably do go into heat though. Dragons too, I'd bet.