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Regarding the list at d20pfsd, given than Heroism is a 2nd-level bard spell -- shouldn't potions of it be available at 400gp rather than 750gp?
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I think it's usually the Wizard or Cleric who is brewin'. Not the bards.
A potion of greater invisibility will be really rare, even though Summoners can make them.
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So price it as a 2nd level bard spell. What's the problem? It's right there on the chart. The table you are referring to was copied from the 3.5 table and has never been updated to reflect the rules changes in PF. It is even listed "The following table is taken from d20srd.org, the definitive 3.5 SRD resource."
It has other errors where it hasn't been updated also, for example the bless weapon potion is mispriced. Ignore it and use the tables.
Bard spells are higher cost as you go up beacause of the higher minium caster level
a wand of lesser restoration made by a paladin only costs 750 gold pieces, 50 gold for a potion of the same spell, and 25 for a scroll of said spell.
I always just assumed that due to rarity of potions being made by other classes as opposed to clerics and wizards, the price just evened out, unless one of the PCs was making the stuff. But that's obviously just some executive handwaving of the situation.
4 X 1 X 750 = 3,000gp for the wand.
The rules disagree with you there since the caster level of a 4th level paladin is just 1st, the cost is 750gp. Its listed explicitly in the rules that a level 1 wand crafted by paladin or ranger costs 750gp.
I always just assumed that due to rarity of potions being made by other classes as opposed to clerics and wizards, the price just evened out, unless one of the PCs was making the stuff. But that's obviously just some executive handwaving of the situation.
This.
The "Magic Mart" assumes that all creation is being done by wizards and cleric and is priced accordingly. The players can make stuff at the calculated cost, but that's not what is sells for on the street. Yes, this can lead to some odd economic situations that people with item creation feats could exploit. Just remember this is a game about high adventure, not a real world economy simulator.
Every new class, domain, or whatever can make new spells available to people at different levels then before. Just because something could potentially be made cheeper now does not meant we are going to reprice the entire catalog of magic items.
Also, if you are getting something at a different spell level keep that in mind for things like globes of invulnerability, save DCs, counterspells, etc...
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I always just assumed that due to rarity of potions being made by other classes as opposed to clerics and wizards, the price just evened out, unless one of the PCs was making the stuff. But that's obviously just some executive handwaving of the situation.
(Has there ever been a "census" of classes in NPCland?)
Be that as it may, there won't be a player in PFS who wouldn't spring 2PA for a 750gp wand of Lesser Restoration.
The problem is not that a paladin can make them cheaper. The problem is finding a palading who can brew potions and who is willing to make them for you. I doubt there are many level 4+ paladins with brew potion running around.
Even then, I doubt a paladin would make them for the mass market as there is a chance the potions could be used for nafarious ends. More likely, the paladin would make them, then keep them as a reward for adventurers of a similar mindset.
a wand of lesser restoration made by a paladin only costs 750 gold pieces, 50 gold for a potion of the same spell, and 25 for a scroll of said spell.
plus the 5000 gp for component costs
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a wand of lesser restoration made by a paladin only costs 750 gold pieces, 50 gold for a potion of the same spell, and 25 for a scroll of said spell.plus the 5000 gp for component costs
Lesser restoration has no component cost. Maybe donald is so angry that he confuses lesser restoration with plain ol' restoration?
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The problem is not that a paladin can make them cheaper. The problem is finding a palading who can brew potions and who is willing to make them for you. I doubt there are many level 4+ paladins with brew potion running around.
Even then, I doubt a paladin would make them for the mass market as there is a chance the potions could be used for nafarious ends. More likely, the paladin would make them, then keep them as a reward for adventurers of a similar mindset.
Actually they have to be 7th level plus paladins, Brew Potion requires caster level 3. They can of course still craft them with caster level 1 but they can't actually brew them until they take the feat at seventh level.
Actually they have to be 7th level plus paladins, Brew Potion requires caster level 3. They can of course still craft them with caster level 1 but they can't actually brew them until they take the feat at seventh level.The problem is not that a paladin can make them cheaper. The problem is finding a palading who can brew potions and who is willing to make them for you. I doubt there are many level 4+ paladins with brew potion running around.
Even then, I doubt a paladin would make them for the mass market as there is a chance the potions could be used for nafarious ends. More likely, the paladin would make them, then keep them as a reward for adventurers of a similar mindset.
Good point, so the number of eligible paladins just went down.
A. There are not that many level 7 paladins running around.B. Of those paladins, very few, if any, would have the Brew Potion Feat.
The heroism potion made at the lower caster level would not last as long and may be a swindle if sold at the higher price.