Pathfinder Campaign Setting: Qadira, Jewel of the East (PFRPG)

What about flying carpets? I really need more flying carpets.

I was trying to avoid repetition with the Qadira PC, so while there's information about where most flying carpets come from, there aren't new flying carpet mechanics.

Steve Geddes wrote:

Is there a Qadira/Keleshite specific Pantheon? Any new deity-related flavor material in this book?

There are short descriptions of nine new deities/cults specific in Kelesh, as well as information on Kelesh-specific forms of Sarenism.

There are also new ethnicities, and commentary about some of their religious beliefs.

Awesome. Thanks. :)

Steve Geddes wrote:

Is there a Qadira/Keleshite specific Pantheon? Any new deity-related flavor material in this book?

There are short descriptions of nine new deities/cults specific in Kelesh, as well as information on Kelesh-specific forms of Sarenism.

There are also new ethnicities, and commentary about some of their religious beliefs.

Sweet!

Been waiting for this book since... pretty much the original Gazetteer revealed there was a Qadira. So I'd be stoked even if it didn't have cool writers - but since it does have cool writers, I'm stoked like a red-hot furnace for this.

Is it christmas yet?

And I hope we get to see some more information about the horse riding desert tribes beyond them being desert tribes who rides horses.

Steve Geddes wrote:

Is there a Qadira/Keleshite specific Pantheon? Any new deity-related flavor material in this book?

There are short descriptions of nine new deities/cults specific in Kelesh, as well as information on Kelesh-specific forms of Sarenism.

There are also new ethnicities, and commentary about some of their religious beliefs.

Swoon! I love Arabian Knights/Al-Qadim-esque settings, as my overenthusiasm for the Wayfinder on that topic probably suggested.

I'm just going to imagine that ten page article on the spice trade in my head, now. I love that sort of setting flavor, not just for the fun of reading it, but for how useful it is in setting up encounters.

There's only so many chosen-randomly-in-a-panic-turnip caravans one can guard before the players ask, 'Why is every country shipping turnips to every other country? Are they like fruitcake, the gift that keeps on regifting?'

Knowing what sort of farmers will need your protection from ankhegs, or what sort of things are in the barrels you'll be setting on fire and throwing at the gnolls (or overboard, to lighten the load/appease the dragon turtle), is useful game information! :)

In one of the PaizoCon seminars that I listened to via KnowDirection, someone mentions that there will be a witch archetype with sand and elemental powers in this book. I for one will be happy to learn more about Pathfinder's official rules for sandwitches.

In one of the PaizoCon seminars that I listened to via KnowDirection, someone mentions that there will be a witch archetype with sand and elemental powers in this book. I for one will be happy to learn more about Pathfinder's official rules for sandwitches.

oof...

Ok, that's good.

Steve Geddes wrote:

Is there a Qadira/Keleshite specific Pantheon? Any new deity-related flavor material in this book?

There are short descriptions of nine new deities/cults specific in Kelesh, as well as information on Kelesh-specific forms of Sarenism.

There are also new ethnicities, and commentary about some of their religious beliefs.

I am interested to see where this goes. The study of Islam is one of my interests so I will likely be reading these new entries with a critical eye looking for similarities and sources of inspiration. All in all I think this is a good thing.

Sarenite Sufism would be a pretty cool idea to explore. "Asmodeus wasn't such a bad guy!"

I for one will be happy to learn more about Pathfinder's official rules for sandwi(t)ches.

Hehehehehehehehehehehehehe.

Official Pathfinder rules for sandwhiches, exactly what we need :D

As a not directly Inner Sea book, this gets a lot of attention from me and i do have some higher hopes for it.
It sounds pretty interesting so far.

I have to say, together with the magic item mastery feats though new magic carpets and rules for them could be a very cool thing, especially for everyone who doesn´t get to cast fly on herself.
Spring attacks from magic carpets for rogues please as well as other shenanigans!

I love sandy witches;)

And I hope we get to see some more information about the horse riding desert tribes beyond them being desert tribes who rides horses.

There is indeed. They're an ethnicity called the Althameri (which gets introduced in the Keleshite section in Inner Sea Races), and there's a considerable amount of info about them.

Jessica Price wrote:

Steve Geddes wrote:

Is there a Qadira/Keleshite specific Pantheon? Any new deity-related flavor material in this book?

There are short descriptions of nine new deities/cults specific in Kelesh, as well as information on Kelesh-specific forms of Sarenism.

There are also new ethnicities, and commentary about some of their religious beliefs.

I am interested to see where this goes. The study of Islam is one of my interests so I will likely be reading these new entries with a critical eye looking for similarities and sources of inspiration. All in all I think this is a good thing.

Sarenite Sufism would be a pretty cool idea to explore. "Asmodeus wasn't such a bad guy!"

Keleshite culture is more based on pre-Islamic Persia/ancient Mesopotamia than the Islamic Middle East, so I wouldn't expect to see too many parallels, especially since with the Cult of the Dawnflower being a sometimes-violent offshoot of mainline Sarenism, we didn't want to draw parallels between Sarenism and modern-day Islam.

Sarenism bears some similarities to all three Abrahamic religions in that it's a faith from east of the Inner Sea region that's becoming increasingly popular in the Inner Sea region, and to Christianity and Islam in being the state religion of an empire, and maybe to the Golden Age of Islam in Spain in that it's dominant while being tolerant of other faiths, but as far as the details, we try to avoid too many similarities.

That said, if you like mysticism, there's a few hints about mysticism, as well as an ascetic order, within the Sarenite church. :-)

Kajehase wrote:

And I hope we get to see some more information about the horse riding desert tribes beyond them being desert tribes who rides horses.

There is indeed. They're an ethnicity called the Althameri (which gets introduced in the Keleshite section in Inner Sea Races), and there's a considerable amount of info about them.

Awesome, I look forward to reading this book more and more.

Will there be a short mention of political and trade relations with it's neighboring states?

I believe Taldor in the north, World's Edge mountains/windswept wastes in the east and Zelshabbar in the south are the only ones bordering directly, but there are also the Isle of Kortos/Absalom, Osirion, Katapesh and Jalmeray across the sea.

Thx for your time.

Really looking forward to this book. We just left Qadira in the Wednesday night game I play in after getting through Feast of Dust. My current character is a native sylph wizard, and before him I played an ifrit swashbuckler also from the region. Naturally, I'm curious how much there will be on the elemental races in Qadira.

In one of the PaizoCon seminars that I listened to via KnowDirection, someone mentions that there will be a witch archetype with sand and elemental powers in this book. I for one will be happy to learn more about Pathfinder's official rules for sandwitches.

There is the ashiftah, or battle witch archetype.

Thomas Seitz wrote:

What about flying carpets? I really need more flying carpets.

I was trying to avoid repetition with the Qadira PC, so while there's information about where most flying carpets come from, there aren't new flying carpet mechanics.

Fair enough Ms Price. However that stuff about cults of Sarenrae sounds pretty awesome to me. :)

Slamron wrote:

In one of the PaizoCon seminars that I listened to via KnowDirection, someone mentions that there will be a witch archetype with sand and elemental powers in this book. I for one will be happy to learn more about Pathfinder's official rules for sandwitches.

There is the ashiftah, or battle witch archetype.

Sandwitch jokes aside, "battle witch" just sounds awesome!

Will there be a short mention of political and trade relations with it's neighboring states?

I believe Taldor in the north, World's Edge mountains/windswept wastes in the east and Zelshabbar in the south are the only ones bordering directly, but there are also the Isle of Kortos/Absalom, Osirion, Katapesh and Jalmeray across the sea.

Thx for your time.

There was a section describing Qadira's relationships with other Inner Sea nations and cultures, but we had to cut it for space.

My petition to have it be a 96-pager was denied. <wry>

Battle casters are always meh to me but could use more sand based magic and abilities.

Yes. but flying carpets on the cover . . .

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Will there be a short mention of political and trade relations with it's neighboring states?

I believe Taldor in the north, World's Edge mountains/windswept wastes in the east and Zelshabbar in the south are the only ones bordering directly, but there are also the Isle of Kortos/Absalom, Osirion, Katapesh and Jalmeray across the sea.

Thx for your time.

There was a section describing Qadira's relationships with other Inner Sea nations and cultures, but we had to cut it for space.

My petition to have it be a 96-pager was denied. <wry>

... aren't you the Project Manager though? :3

Jessica Price wrote:

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Will there be a short mention of political and trade relations with it's neighboring states?

I believe Taldor in the north, World's Edge mountains/windswept wastes in the east and Zelshabbar in the south are the only ones bordering directly, but there are also the Isle of Kortos/Absalom, Osirion, Katapesh and Jalmeray across the sea.

Thx for your time.

There was a section describing Qadira's relationships with other Inner Sea nations and cultures, but we had to cut it for space.

My petition to have it be a 96-pager was denied. <wry>

... aren't you the Project Manager though? :3

Yeah, but Wes gets final say in that. :(

I think it's because he doesn't like the sun. :( :(

Jessica Price wrote:

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Will there be a short mention of political and trade relations with it's neighboring states?

I believe Taldor in the north, World's Edge mountains/windswept wastes in the east and Zelshabbar in the south are the only ones bordering directly, but there are also the Isle of Kortos/Absalom, Osirion, Katapesh and Jalmeray across the sea.

Thx for your time.

There was a section describing Qadira's relationships with other Inner Sea nations and cultures, but we had to cut it for space.

My petition to have it be a 96-pager was denied. <wry>

... aren't you the Project Manager though? :3

She had a very heated discussion with herself about it. But in the end she had to accept her own decision on the matter.

Rysky wrote:

Jessica Price wrote:

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Will there be a short mention of political and trade relations with it's neighboring states?

I believe Taldor in the north, World's Edge mountains/windswept wastes in the east and Zelshabbar in the south are the only ones bordering directly, but there are also the Isle of Kortos/Absalom, Osirion, Katapesh and Jalmeray across the sea.

Thx for your time.

There was a section describing Qadira's relationships with other Inner Sea nations and cultures, but we had to cut it for space.

My petition to have it be a 96-pager was denied. <wry>

... aren't you the Project Manager though? :3

Yeah, but Wes gets final say in that. :(

I think it's because he doesn't like the sun. :( :(

Aww :(

But then I can't blame him.

Rysky wrote:

Jessica Price wrote:

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Will there be a short mention of political and trade relations with it's neighboring states?

I believe Taldor in the north, World's Edge mountains/windswept wastes in the east and Zelshabbar in the south are the only ones bordering directly, but there are also the Isle of Kortos/Absalom, Osirion, Katapesh and Jalmeray across the sea.

Thx for your time.

There was a section describing Qadira's relationships with other Inner Sea nations and cultures, but we had to cut it for space.

My petition to have it be a 96-pager was denied. <wry>

... aren't you the Project Manager though? :3

She had a very heated discussion with herself about it. But in the end she had to accept her own decision on the matter.

I've had arguments like that before. They never work out in my favour.

Jessica Price wrote:

Rysky wrote:

Jessica Price wrote:

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Will there be a short mention of political and trade relations with it's neighboring states?

I believe Taldor in the north, World's Edge mountains/windswept wastes in the east and Zelshabbar in the south are the only ones bordering directly, but there are also the Isle of Kortos/Absalom, Osirion, Katapesh and Jalmeray across the sea.

Thx for your time.

There was a section describing Qadira's relationships with other Inner Sea nations and cultures, but we had to cut it for space.

My petition to have it be a 96-pager was denied. <wry>

... aren't you the Project Manager though? :3

Yeah, but Wes gets final say in that. :(

I think it's because he doesn't like the sun. :( :(

Aww :(

But then I can't blame him.

You can always blame COSMO instead. Isn't that what the thread is for?

Rysky wrote:

Jessica Price wrote:

Rysky wrote:

Jessica Price wrote:

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Will there be a short mention of political and trade relations with it's neighboring states?

I believe Taldor in the north, World's Edge mountains/windswept wastes in the east and Zelshabbar in the south are the only ones bordering directly, but there are also the Isle of Kortos/Absalom, Osirion, Katapesh and Jalmeray across the sea.

Thx for your time.

There was a section describing Qadira's relationships with other Inner Sea nations and cultures, but we had to cut it for space.

My petition to have it be a 96-pager was denied. <wry>

... aren't you the Project Manager though? :3

Yeah, but Wes gets final say in that. :(

I think it's because he doesn't like the sun. :( :(

Aww :(

But then I can't blame him.

You can always blame COSMO instead. Isn't that what the thread is for?

Yep! That's why I said I can't blame Wes :3

*blames someone else that will probably best not named*

Mixing this and Linnorms.

I'd prefer to keep my linnorms back in the frozen lands.

Warmth is too...warm for them.

Well, spice and sandworms...ehm linnorms...or worms...or drakes...or whatever. You get the idea.

Sandworms aren't dragons in my mind but I understand your basic premise Hayato.

A desert based linnorm would be awesome though.

A desert based linnorm would be awesome though.

Oh yeah.

A desert based linnorm would be awesome though.

Agreed. ^_^

Fascinating

Dragon78 wrote:

A desert based linnorm would be awesome though.

Agreed. ^_^

As soon as I convince management that we need a Kelesh book, I will make sure it's in the outline. ;-)

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Will there be a short mention of political and trade relations with it's neighboring states?

I believe Taldor in the north, World's Edge mountains/windswept wastes in the east and Zelshabbar in the south are the only ones bordering directly, but there are also the Isle of Kortos/Absalom, Osirion, Katapesh and Jalmeray across the sea.

Thx for your time.

There was a section describing Qadira's relationships with other Inner Sea nations and cultures, but we had to cut it for space.

My petition to have it be a 96-pager was denied. <wry>

Is it possible to release such "Director´s Cut" material in a blog or in this thread?

Is there at least a map or mention which states are Qadira´s direct neighbors?

Thx

Jessica Price wrote:

Marco Massoudi wrote:

Will there be a short mention of political and trade relations with it's neighboring states?

I believe Taldor in the north, World's Edge mountains/windswept wastes in the east and Zelshabbar in the south are the only ones bordering directly, but there are also the Isle of Kortos/Absalom, Osirion, Katapesh and Jalmeray across the sea.

Thx for your time.

There was a section describing Qadira's relationships with other Inner Sea nations and cultures, but we had to cut it for space.

My petition to have it be a 96-pager was denied. <wry>

Is it possible to release such "Director´s Cut" material in a blog or in this thread?

Is there at least a map or mention which states are Qadira´s direct neighbors?

Thx

There is definitely cut material that I'm saving for a blog. :-) The map is going to show Qadira's eastern border (since the Inner Sea map cuts it off) but I don't believe it names anything east of that border.

East of that border is more of Kelesh, basically. We haven't worked out the names of all the other satrapies.

Is there much in the way of "broad strokes" information on how Kelesh functions? Or is this very tightly focussed on Qadira?

There's a considerable amount of information about how Kelesh functions, the succession question in Kelesh, and so on. It's mostly framed in terms of either how Qadira is not typical of Kelesh, or how it affects Qadira, but given that we've generally treated Qadira as if it were just another nation, I thought it was important to focus on the fact that it has a sort of dual identity: it's both an Inner Sea nation, and a part of an empire we haven't touched on much.

There's a considerable amount of information about how Kelesh functions, the succession question in Kelesh, and so on. It's mostly framed in terms of either how Qadira is not typical of Kelesh, or how it affects Qadira, but given that we've generally treated Qadira as if it were just another nation, I thought it was important to focus on the fact that it has a sort of dual identity: it's both an Inner Sea nation, and a part of an empire we haven't touched on much.

Awesome, again. Thanks. Looking forward to it even more!

Kalindlara wrote:

Dragon78 wrote:

A desert based linnorm would be awesome though.

Agreed. ^_^

As soon as I convince management that we need a Kelesh book, I will make sure it's in the outline. ;-)

SQUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

*HUGS*

So we get some info about Kelesh functions, that is cool.

Wait a second! Eastern boarder of Qadira? That´s where Casmaron begins, isn´t it? :D

Jessica Price wrote:

Kalindlara wrote:

Dragon78 wrote:

A desert based linnorm would be awesome though.

Agreed. ^_^

As soon as I convince management that we need a Kelesh book, I will make sure it's in the outline. ;-)

SQUUUUUUUUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

*HUGS*

It could be better. The sand based Linnorm can always appear in Bestiary 6 -- along with the Sirrush. :)

Kajehase wrote:

And I hope we get to see some more information about the horse riding desert tribes beyond them being desert tribes who rides horses.

There is indeed. They're an ethnicity called the Althameri (which gets introduced in the Keleshite section in Inner Sea Races), and there's a considerable amount of info about them.

*Kermit-flails*

Steve Geddes wrote:

Is there a Qadira/Keleshite specific Pantheon? Any new deity-related flavor material in this book?

There are short descriptions of nine new deities/cults specific in Kelesh, as well as information on Kelesh-specific forms of Sarenism.

There are also new ethnicities, and commentary about some of their religious beliefs.

Qadira + new local deities, ethnicities? Oh man... this book will be awesome

It's also cool to hear that the Keleshites take a bit of inspiration from Zoroastrian Persia, it's not something I've seen done in a fantasy setting before.

Very keen to find out what the new ethnicities might be. I'm guessing it isn't something Turkic since we've got the Kara for that now. Maybe something inspired by ancient Caucasian peoples (like Armenians and Georgians) or the Scythians? (whom were the main inspiration for the mythical Amazons since they reputedly had many female warriors among their ranks). Either way, no doubt it will be something quite interesting and I hope also there will be some interesting demihuman/humanoid cultures & societies in Qadira as well. :)

But yeah I also really hope a Taldor book comes soon