Pathfinder Player Companion: Dragonslayer’s Handbook (PFRPG)

Announced! Product image is a mockup, and will change prior to publication.

That mockup is incredible. Where is it from?

Also... Dragon fighting... war machines? Do we get Giant mecha to fight off dragons with? cause that'd be pretty cool. But not something I'd think I'd see in a campaign book.

There's a lot of potential fun to be had here in tactics discussion.

Suddenly reminded of the trailer for the first Monster Hunter game.

Dragons will be very present next year. Makes sense with Mythic coming out, Ultimate Campaign and that book about the Empyrial Lords.

Looks like may will be a month for dragons.

This one looks like it'll be good. I am kinda hoping we get something for gunslingers who want to go the elephant gun route and take dragons down via flying lead.

I wouldn't mind seeing some Dragon Slayer Archetypes. Maybe even a Dragon Rider based one?

I wouldn't mind seeing some Dragon Slayer Archetypes. Maybe even a Dragon Rider based one?

+1

Or make dragonriding work with Mythic. Something not watered-down.

I was thinking have the Book include Dragon/Draconic Animal Companions/Mounts and make Dragon Rider a Cavalier or Fighter Archetype.

Dragon slayer archtypes(Many)

Dragon rider archtypes(Ranger, Paladin, Fighter)

Dragonic enchanter arctype(Wizard)

Dragon speaker archtype(Bard)

Dragon Horde Seeker archtype(Rouge)

Dragon Mystic archtype(Sorcerer)

Dragonic Summoner archtype(Summoner)

Dracon Master archtype(Magus)

Dragonic shaper arctype(Druid)

dragon themed patron for witches

Isn't there already a Dragon Shaman Druid Archetype... Though now that I think on it that might be focused on Lizards...

For Dragon Rider: I can see Cavalier before Fighter. Even if it is simply expanded Beast Rider Options.

I still wanna see Dragon/Draconic Based Animal Companions/Mounts.

I want an option besides taking a Dragon as a Cohort using Leadership for my Dragon Riding Fighter.

Hmm, a Dragon Riding Order of the Dragon Cavalier/Samurai. Kinda Funny no?

Really want to see dragon riders even if they are just the dragonkin and not full dragons.

If their isn't a dragon rider archtype in here, Epic Meepo made one for Cavaliers that I've enjoyed at our game table. Can be found here
Barring that though, Dragon fighting war machines? That sounds excellent! But what does "adopt their lethal gear" mean? Is thei dragon specific gear that we can yoink for our own adventuring purposes after we waste the wyrms?

If their isn't a dragon rider archtype in here, Epic Meepo made one for Cavaliers that I've enjoyed at our game table. Can be found here

Barring that though, Dragon fighting war machines? That sounds excellent! But what does "adopt their lethal gear" mean? Is thei dragon specific gear that we can yoink for our own adventuring purposes after we waste the wyrms?

Claws, teeth, scales, horns, bones, hide. Best equipment around, forged by nature and magic.

A Christian Saint of Valour supposedly wielded a Dragon Horn Spear.

Dragon Rider & Dragon Slayer (Cavalier archetypes, stackable)

I think that this book is gonna be great especially if they add a dragon rider PRC or archetype.

I would love to see some Dragon Rider PrC so I can use it in our current Dragonlance campaign. We are currently looking at just updating the 3.5 campaign book PrC from years past. I saw Knights can have a young dragon in the Knights of Golarion book.

I could be wrong, but I'm having some difficulty seeing a book on SLAYING dragons dedicate two pages to a prestige class about RIDING them. As a fan of the Dragonlance setting, I would love to see it happen at some point, but I doubt we'll see a dragon rider prestige class in this book.

Super Genius Games has a dragonrider class here.

I could be wrong, but I'm having some difficulty seeing a book on SLAYING dragons dedicate two pages to a prestige class about RIDING them. As a fan of the Dragonlance setting, I would love to see it happen at some point, but I doubt we'll see a dragon rider prestige class in this book.

White Estrid.

But throughout many Myths Dragon Slayers rode another Friendly Dragon. Heck, it could be something like Dragonheart. The Dragon is his Mount but they pretend to fight for Cash.

White Estrid.

But throughout many Myths Dragon Slayers rode another Friendly Dragon. Heck, it could be something like Dragonheart. The Dragon is his Mount but they pretend to fight for Cash.

I'm not saying the idea isn't a sound one. I just doubt that they'll dedicate two pages to a game mechanic that, in and of itself, has nothing to do with the act of dragonslaying. Especially in a book with as small a page count as the Player Companion books.

It's quite possible I'm wrong, though, and if a dragon rider prestige class is indeed featured in the book, I'll be using the hell out of it for my Dragonlance games.

Why the White Estrid mention, though? Did she slay dragons in aerial combat?

She has a Linnorm in her thrall.

What I am thinking is including options for Draconic ACs/Familiars/Mounts would be nice to cover the Archetype of a Slayer taking on the newly hatched Whelp of the Dragon he just slew.

Or a Warrior from Andoran who rides a Copper Dragon just large enough to ride and seeks to spread freedom throughout the Inner Sea.

Good idea Paizo. While rampaging orcs, deadly curses, forgotten tombs, and magic items are the fries and softdrink of an adventurers career, I feel dragons are the real meat of their conquests. Need to impress upon the players the dangerousness of the villain: give him a dragon! Need the players to find a powerful item to complete their quest: make it guarded by a dragon! Need to put the Min Maxing fighter or Barbarian back in his place: kick his 455 with dragonfear and make him run home to the wizard (and his will save!). I think it's beyond time that Paizo came out with another book about dragons, and even if it is a book about slaying/taming them it is a worthy addition. (Not to mention I bet the dragon already read the book before the adventurers arrived, and is about half way through How Many Ways to Cook An Adventurer: A Dragon's Guide to Home Defense)

Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup!

She has a Linnorm in her thrall.

Linnorms are wingless, though; it seems a bit undignified and silly to just ride around slithering everywhere.

They do still have a fly speed even though they're wingless. The Cairn Linnorm for instance has 100 ft fly speed.

She has a Linnorm in her thrall.

Indeed she does. I don't think I've seen a single mention of her riding it, though.

What I am thinking is including options for Draconic ACs/Familiars/Mounts would be nice to cover the Archetype of a Slayer taking on the newly hatched Whelp of the Dragon he just slew.

Again, that's a lot of real estate for a concept that really doesn't have anything to do with the slaying of dragons. I agree, though, it's a neat concept.

Or a Warrior from Andoran who rides a Copper Dragon just large enough to ride and seeks to spread freedom throughout the Inner Sea.

That has little to do with slaying dragons, though.

What I think would be more likely when it comes to dragon riding (as with everything else I've written, it's just a theory) is a book dedicated to monstrous mounts. The monster version of Animal Archive.

Of course, it's entirely possible that the folks at Paizo are on the same page as you in this regard. I just don't personally see the inclusion of game mechanics that deal with dragon riding as likely in a book that's all about slaying them.

This is pure speculation, but those interested in dragon-riding might want to check out the fourth volume of Reign of Winter. Or Distant Worlds, which certainly has options for you to get your Pern on. :)

I remember her having a linnorm in her thrall but wondering how she did it since there immune to mind-affecting effects. Though I am sure she used an artifact or she just that charming.

I remember her having a linnorm in her thrall but wondering how she did it since there immune to mind-affecting effects. Though I am sure she used an artifact or she just that charming.

White Estrid's just that bad-ass. :)

Honestly, I think Estrid's linnorm is one of those things that don't need to be explained in terms of game mechanics. It's just plain cool. :)

She defeated it. In exchange for its life it pledged service to her.

And you do realize a lot of historical dragon slayers ended up with a whelp or similar as a cohort.

In fact 13 Nordic Legends cover Dragons aiding Humans in defeating other Dragons.

And you do realize a lot of historical dragon slayers ended up with a whelp or similar as a cohort.

In fact 13 Nordic Legends cover Dragons aiding Humans in defeating other Dragons.

I can't and won't argue with that logic as I'm well aware of certain myths pertaining to the subject. But, for me at least, dragonslayers riding dragons into combat against other dragons isn't an integral part of the dragonslayer imagery. It can happen, certainly, but it's not something I would naturally expect to find in a 32-page book about dragonslayers. No more so than, say, rules on creating a dragonslayer cult (an example) which, while certainly a possible endeavor for any dragonslayer wishing to gather a following of like-minded slayers, is also not something I'd expect to see in a book on dragonslayers.

I've been wrong before, and the Dragonlance geek in me sure hopes I'm wrong again.

I will agree. Though the cult seems more like what would be made with Organization Rules.

Mainly what I am thinking is more of expanded Dragon Cohort rules and maybe an archetype on Dragon Riding/Taming.

I wonder how much Jerome, Marie and Shaun were inspired by Skyrim (if at all) in this development. I, for one, welcome our new fus roh dah overlords.

Updated to final cover and description!

That cover is so pretty... no archetypes this time?

Nice cover art and a Magma dragon at that.

No new Archetypes:(

New system for crafting alchemical and mundane items from dragons:)

Well if we want rules for dragonriders, dragonic allies, etc., then we will have to wait for the "My Little Dragons: Friendship is Expensive" book.

No new Archetypes:(

There are three new archetypes in this book.

Sounds like a great book! Lots of alchemist love!

3 new archetypes? Any hints on what they are?

Well at least there are three new archetypes.

Any chance of an enormous sword like the one named Dragonslayer used by Guts in Berserk?

3 new archetypes? Any hints on what they are?

Two of them modify base classes, while the third modifies an alternate class.

Stratagemini wrote:

3 new archetypes? Any hints on what they are?

Two of them modify base classes, while the third modifies an alternate class.

Oooooh! Puzzle Time!

I'm going for:

Paladin;
Inquisitor; and,
Anti-Paladin

Any chance of an enormous sword like the one named Dragonslayer used by Guts in Berserk?

Guh... But a redesign of the Titan Mauler to go more with Dragon Slaying would be nice.

I am going with Ranger, Fighter, and Samurai.

Stratagemini wrote:

3 new archetypes? Any hints on what they are?

Two of them modify base classes, while the third modifies an alternate class.

My Vote is on;

Paladins already have Oath Against The Wyrm.

Paladins already have Oath Against The Wyrm.

True! Okay, I'm changing to Ranger, Inquisitor and Gunslinger

Gunslingers need no more help against dragons.

I'll say Paladin, Anti-Paladin, and Cavalier.

Oath doesn't invalid having an added archtype,the way i see it.