These minis all look great. I'm so looking forward to ripping into a case of them.
Case has been on order for a while. Looking forward to it
As a long-time collector of PPM I have to say these look fantastic. The Pit Fiend is just awesome in every sense of the word, Hellgate looks great, but I think I might actually be most impressed with the Hobgoblins. As commons they look better than some of the rares and that's not to take anything away from the rares, they simply look THAT good.
Great pics, btw. If you feel inclined to take more I'd love to see some of the large uncommons.
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One minor sour note on the set. I was expecting the cage to open, but somehow (probably for stability, I dunno), the cage doesn't open. So it's still a cool set piece, but you can't trap Small and Medium creatures in it like I intended, which is a bummer.
Fair warning!
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One minor sour note on the set. I was expecting the cage to open, but somehow (probably for stability, I dunno), the cage doesn't open. So it's still a cool set piece, but you can't trap Small and Medium creatures in it like I intended, which is a bummer.
Fair warning!
No worries, nothing I can't fix with a hobby knife!
I suspect if I just cut off the bottom it can be placed over smaller models like a lot of gelatinous cube minis. Will need to be a really clean cut though.
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One minor sour note on the set. I was expecting the cage to open, but somehow (probably for stability, I dunno), the cage doesn't open. So it's still a cool set piece, but you can't trap Small and Medium creatures in it like I intended, which is a bummer.
Fair warning!
No problem, that's not your fault.
Lorian is right, it can still be cut open if needed.I think we need a large (2x2 squares) rectangular cage in a future set anyway.
Thank you for the heads-up anyway, Erik!
Any news about the sales/future of the boxed "Iconic Heroes" sets that you are privy of and can share with us?
If i havn't forgotten anything, we'll get a slew of unpainted and prepainted Wizkids minis in january from both the Pathfinder and D&D line.
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For the people that are interested what the "other company´s" Adventurer's Camp Case Incentive Promo set contains:
* 2 Camp Fires
* 3 Treasure Chests
* 2 Kegs
* 2 Piles of Sacks
* 2 Horses with Saddles
* 3 Bedrolls
* 2 Weapon Racks
* 3 Adventurer's Packs
* 2 Spellbooks
* 2 Scrolls
* 2 Bags of Holding
* Cooking Pot
For the people that are interested what the "other company´s" Adventurer's Camp Case Incentive Promo set contains:
** spoiler omitted **
Wow, that's a nice collection of useful terrain/dungeon dressing! Definitely going to pick the incentive up when it becomes available!
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Yep, i´m also in the (adventurer´s) camp of people who buy both lines, even though i like the Pathfinder minis better (most of the time).
I really think they can co-exist and compliment each other, i´d only wish that Wizkids wouldn´t keep releasing them two months apart from each other, but that looks to be happening for the foreseeable future with MM2 out in february 2017 and Crown of Fangs in april 2017.
Still, "Throne Room" (two thrones, a banquet table, (three?) courtiers and much more) and Adventurer´s Camp (27 pieces including two creatures) should make for some really cool objects to place on the game tables.
2017 is gonna be a great year for minis collectors!
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I get full sets of pathfinder i.e. A case but only pick at the other line this time I think I bought a total of four boosters. I only wanted the big hill giant and a thri keen both of which I pulled early. But this case incentive is very tempting and and I'm sure I can find it without buying a case.
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One minor sour note on the set. I was expecting the cage to open, but somehow (probably for stability, I dunno), the cage doesn't open. So it's still a cool set piece, but you can't trap Small and Medium creatures in it like I intended, which is a bummer.
Fair warning!
No worries, nothing I can't fix with a hobby knife!
I suspect if I just cut off the bottom it can be placed over smaller models like a lot of gelatinous cube minis. Will need to be a really clean cut though.
Great idea - let us know how that goes?
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I'm really liking this set. I passed on both of the last 2 sets, but this one seems to have a good assortment of useful stuff. I particularly like all the celestials 'cuz if you summon creatures to fight for you, at some point you're going to summon some celestials. And previously there weren't many options for prepainted ones out there. (at least, options that aren't really hard to get or really expensive at this point)
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Erik, our group is currently playing both Hell's Vengeance and Hell's Rebels simultaneously to simulate the 'events are playing out at the same time' feature of these APs. (i.e. we've done book one of Hell's Vengeance with evil PCs, with me as a GM; now we're doing book one of Hell's Rebels with good PCs, with me as a player this time... sharing the load is awesome! ;) )
Any chance Santa could put in my stocking some kind of 'Complete Collection of Hell's APs Minis' combo pack? :) :) :)
PS: our group has purchased both Hell's Rebels and Hell's Vengeance Pawns as well, the prepainted plastic stuff is just... wow!
I passed on both of the last 2 sets
I find this a stunning comment. I found RDI & DD were the most actually useful sets I've seen in this line. Usually, these sets are full of well done but pointless minis.
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Two weeks till US release and 5 or 6 weeks till european release!
I'm curious about the future of this line with president Trump not wanting american products to be produced outside of the USA anymore.
Luckily he is going to be sworn in in february, so we'll at least get the "adventurer's camp" from that "other line" before things may change.
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I passed on both of the last 2 setsI find this a stunning comment. I found RDI & DD were the most actually useful sets I've seen in this line. Usually, these sets are full of well done but pointless minis.
There were some good minis in those sets, I'll admit. I've got TONS of the old DnD plastic minis, though, and there was a LOT of overlap between what I've got already and what was covered in those last 2 sets. There are a few I'll likely still pick up as solos, but the sets themselves just weren't compelling enough for me.
Emails about subscriptions for Deadly Foes have gone out. We're getting close!
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Hey, Australian friends! I know there's a few of you here.
A friend of mine from there just posted this. I'll admit ignorance of the details or of whether it will help, but it looked like it might be relevant.
Hopefully this makes the Battles line a little more accessible to folks. ^_^
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Any chance Santa could put in my stocking some kind of 'Complete Collection of Hell's APs Minis' combo pack?To be clear, we are fully ready to pay Santa for this. It would take additional time for the elves to put that shipment together... ;)
If i counted correctly, 26 out of the 50 Deadly Foes booster minis make an appearance in either the "Hell's Rebells" or "Hell's Vengeance" APs (plus chandeliers and cages for flavour).
So you could say that a case of this set is a "Hell's APs combo pack", if not a complete one. ;-)
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It looks like we won´t get another preview for Deadly Foes.
I guess that´s ok because we essentially have seen all minis over at the Wizkids homepage and they are already available online as singles at auggies since yesterday:
http://auggiesgamestore.crystalcommerce.com/products/search?q=Deadly+Foes
9 are already sold out though.
9 are already sold out though.
Oh look, the dungeon dressing is sold out. Surprise surprise. Continues to be frustrating.
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9 are already sold out though.Oh look, the dungeon dressing is sold out. Surprise surprise. Continues to be frustrating.
1.) The Rope Trick is still available.
2.) They will soon restock.
3.) Paizo will soon offer singles.
4.) Other sites still have some.
Keep looking and you'll get them!
Pst: They will send you an "available again" mail if you want. ;-)
9 are already sold out though.Oh look, the dungeon dressing is sold out. Surprise surprise. Continues to be frustrating.1.) The Rope Trick is still available.
2.) They will soon restock.
3.) Paizo will soon offer singles.
4.) Other sites still have some.
Keep looking and you'll get them!
Pst: They will send you an "available again" mail if you want. ;-)
That's a neat spell you cast. Let me make a Spellcraft check. Oooh, it's an illusion, and it's called helpful solution. Tricky. It has all the appearance of being helpful but if I succeed at a Will save, the dirty truth is revealed.
Here's what's going to happen. Auggies is going to open up another dozen cases, getting another dozen <whatevers>. Three customers will show up and order the (roughly) four that are a useful quantity of each. Auggies will be out of stock again by the time the fourth customer shows up.
Next, Paizo will do the same, and again, only the lucky early birds will get any.
So will the other sites.
I totally get that you're trying to be helpful, and I absolutely appreciate that, which is why my first paragraph is humorous. But the fundamental problem is that a bunch of molds that people want in bulk have a rarity that precludes most of us from getting them in bulk. It's a broken distribution rate, and it needs to be pointed out repeatedly, until it's fixed.
I do understand that there's a (significant and) vocal segment of the customer base who don't want to get four or five "chairs" or whatever instead of four or five monsters/NPCs. But you need four or five of those people to actually sell off their one-per-case dungeon dressing in order to support the people who do want them. And then you've got two layers of mark-up, on top of unpredictable availability.
It's frustrating mostly because it gives the appearance that these cases are being created as "collectables", not as RPG tools for those that want/need them. These are collectable baseball cards, and if you want the ones you want, you need to spend astronomical amounts (say, buying five cases), and you're going to get a phenomenal quantity of cards for some player nobody will ever care about. It's not how Paizo normally sells things, so it feels odd, even though I understand what's happening and why, and that Wizkids actually makes them. I even understand that rarity and complexity are related, but that suggests some of the dungeon dressing should absolutely be common rarity. So yeah. Frustrated.
Anguish is right again. :)
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9 are already sold out though.Oh look, the dungeon dressing is sold out. Surprise surprise. Continues to be frustrating.1.) The Rope Trick is still available.
2.) They will soon restock.
3.) Paizo will soon offer singles.
4.) Other sites still have some.
Keep looking and you'll get them!
Pst: They will send you an "available again" mail if you want. ;-)
That's a neat spell you cast. Let me make a Spellcraft check. Oooh, it's an illusion, and it's called helpful solution. Tricky. It has all the appearance of being helpful but if I succeed at a Will save, the dirty truth is revealed.
Here's what's going to happen. Auggies is going to open up another dozen cases, getting another dozen <whatevers>. Three customers will show up and order the (roughly) four that are a useful quantity of each. Auggies will be out of stock again by the time the fourth customer shows up.
Next, Paizo will do the same, and again, only the lucky early birds will get any.
So will the other sites.
I totally get that you're trying to be helpful, and I absolutely appreciate that, which is why my first paragraph is humorous. But the fundamental problem is that a bunch of molds that people want in bulk have a rarity that precludes most of us from getting them in bulk. It's a broken distribution rate, and it needs to be pointed out repeatedly, until it's fixed.
I do understand that there's a (significant and) vocal segment of the customer base who don't want to get four or five "chairs" or whatever instead of four or five monsters/NPCs. But you need four or five of those people to actually sell off their one-per-case dungeon dressing in order to support the people who do want them. And then you've got two layers of mark-up, on top of unpredictable availability.
It's frustrating mostly because it gives the appearance that these cases are being created as "collectables",...
Personally i don´t want more than one each of "Book of the Damned", "Hellgate", "Arcane Pillar" (there will be a "normal" pillar in the next set, and probably some more included with the "Throne Room" incentive) or "Rope Trick".
As the "Cage" won´t open (without cutting it open or so), one of that will be enough for me too.
The "Candelabra" is another story, but there will probably be two of them in a case and i guess the repaint available at Paizo will be a gold version.
But i still get what you are saying and i would love to get my hands on a dozend "bed" miniatures (as i only had one in my case).
I think (and hope) the "Throne Room" case incentive will include lots of chairs, columns, long tables that can be put together and stuff but i would also like some blisters or boxes of dressing pieces sold seperately (same as the "Mage Knight Artifacts Set 1 or 2").
I don´t know why Wizkids doesn´t make these anymore, they have been sold out for years and fetch crazy prices, as do the "Mage Knight Castle" sets, which are the most gorgeous pieces of painted plastic scenery ever created imo.
I believe I need to say this again as people are still talking about the side pieces so much. There are some very easy to use molds that you can buy that will satisfy these needs.
http://www.hirstarts.com/
Check this site out for some of these. You can just use plaster and you can make chairs, beds, whatever... depending on the mold.
These items just don't seem that financially viable for Paizo to make a profit on.
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As incredulous as it may sound to some of you, I have no interest in making plaster or resin dressing and then painting it. It simply won't happen if that is my only alternative. So, I'm the type of person that creates demand for PPM dungeon dressing. The alternate view of "why would you waste space in my set for stuff I don't need or can easily obtain by making it myself" is the reason we don't have more dressing pieces per set. I think Paizo and Wizkids are doing a balancing act here and the sparse offerings are the comprimise that both sides can tolerate. I'm not going to whine about it, I'm going to be thankful we get any dressings and if I really want multiples of something I'll do the diligence to chase them down. And thankyou Paizo for repaints such as the burning brazier, that helps make this task easier.