The Order of Tears (Inactive)

Game Master Choon

well, lots of this is out of Noro's sphere of expertise.

I was hoping for a little more with Reck, of course that may be in my court now and I missed it.

Hmm. Just now it's a bit early in the morning for deep thoughts. I think I'll get back to you with that : )

But! I think both Freia and Zayid asked Absentia questions and are sorta holding out for answers

Halsanna's digging herself into trouble, but the way things seem to be going, the Tears are in line for a large shakeup, and if things are moved just so, a chance for escape. So she's biding her time. She's thinking that either the Tears will either:

• Suffer to the point that some will escape in the upcoming chaos
• The team will do well enough that they'll be released (and/or hired)

Though at present, she's voluntarily tied to Locke and Gimbal - though their loyalty is somewhat in question, considering she does not get to spend as much time as she likes with them. At this point, she's still their "leader", and needs to start coordinating more to see what she can learn about the goings-on. As for reinforcing their loyalty, she's doing what she can.

She's going to start using Message to check in every couple of days.

Ya. I think I've thought out and revised my way into a decent arc. It will go much smoother if Noro joins the gangs like she suggested. I plan to pick up the pace of things happening too. I think it's appropriate this far into the game. So fewer really extended fight sequences that slow things down and, hopefully, more cool moments for everyone. Hopefully. A GM's vision has a terrible tendency to break down.

Hmm. Interesting to see how things work out. I feel that I might have accidentally complicated some end-game goals with the way Freia joined up. A little bit perhaps :P

We'll see : )

--Or the players go a _completely_ different way than could have been anticipated.

That's kinda what had happened here. I had no idea some of you would be this stubbornly suspicious of Absentia, but hey, it's working out. No hard feelings. Only a couple brain cramps. :)

'What, Absentia is nice and friendly!' *Looks confused, then realization hits* 'Dammit Zayid! Stop predicting eventual GM twists'

:P

(Just to note: This was all in jest. Please, carry on with the excellent GMing : ) And you carry on with this excellent Zayiding you are doing Zayid : ))

@Choon/Off-roading PCs - Now imagine if we had worldbending spells at our fingertips : )

Lol. That was never my intention, Freia, Zayid's just naturally suspicious (particularly of authority), and sorta crazy in a you-might-not-realize-this-but-I'm-crazy kind of way. He and Absentia have an interesting relationship; she and her fellow Sorrows have threatened him more than once, but she's also seemed at times to really care, which confuses (and possibly scares) him.

I know it wasn't your intention, hence the 'this is a jest' part.

Just funny how Zayid turned out in relation to Absentia, as you mention in your last post : )

Freia basically has two things on her agenda:

1) Scout out the target. She has a decent set of stealth and getting around skills, with spells to augment it. Wouldn't mind taking a look near the site again and note guards and routines and so.

If there are any people that seem to come and go somewhat freely those would be of great interest. If she can identify them/get a good look she could go to the library and look for Disguise Self/Other (might need to get a disguise kit too!).

Then, a swift takedown later, we *might* be able to simply walk in to start any raid ... (Which would eliminate the non-stealthy aspect of some PCs if wanted). Well, a little distance at least : )

2) The old man's offer. Our deadline was just a few days so we probably need to figure out what to do about it. Thoughts : )?

2) The old man's offer. Our deadline was just a few days so we probably need to figure out what to do about it. Thoughts : )?

*bump*

Going with a more direct approach:

Freia's thoughts are basically leaning towards spilling her beans to Absentia, since she does trust her.

Zayid, would you be okay with that OOC? If not, I'll have her swayed by something moderately compelling IC since she does trust Zayid (and the rest of the party!) too.

That seems like a reasonable course of action for Freia to take, given that she trusts Absentia and isn't considering the offer. ;)

Were you thinking you'd have her tell Absentia in private, off-screen a party discussion and then tell her in front of the party, or something else? Zayid the character might be a bit hurt if he knew Freia had told her without the group's agreement, but I the player think it'd be reasonable either way... just wondering which you had in mind.

I was thinking to start with an off screen party discussion conducted OOC, aka this, and then act on it IC. But the responses were sorta slow, so I poked again but more directly :P

edit:finished last sentence

Heh, sorry about that.

Zayid won't argue too hard if Freia wants to tell Absentia. What do the rest of you think?

To tell or not to tell. Lives may hang in the balance...

Should I roll a die?

But we don't want anyone to die Choon /s :P

But yeah, that might almost be it ...

No one else seems to be weighing in... I'm up for rolling.

1:Freia tells: 1d2 ⇒ 1
Freia, go!

Uhm. I might need to think a bit on how to deliver this. I'll try to get a post up by the evening : )

Oladon (Zayid) asked me to let you guys know that she's been super busy with work this week, apologizes for the delay, and that she intends to post this evening. Thanks for your patience!

Patience I have. :)

By the way... Freia. You're up. *pokepoke*

I know.

I am just *deep breath* gathering strength.

:P

I think I'll renegade on the dice roll actually and to a hysterical 'wake people up in the middle of the night and spill my beans to them' instead.

Ha! :P

Honestly, should really have done this last Monday or something.

Heads up - I'll be on mini-vacation until the 26th and I'm unsure how much internet access I'll have. But I should be able to update in the evenings : )

Also, I'll come back to the IC thread with some questions when I'm done packing and stuff

Erp sorry - the trip has been fun but draining so far. I'll try and update tomorrow : )

@Silver - Freia actually has a silvered light hammer. Everyone else got something?

And just maybe, this could be a good opportunity for Freia to earn a Silversheen treatment for her trusty old sword.

@Scrolls - Got a few already, but there are always helpful ones we could grab. : )

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Also, happy Thanksgiving. :)

Cool!

Happy Thanksgiving!

Still around just busy time for me.

I am at a little bit of a loss right now as to what the heck I am supposed to do.

Reck really isn't around much to post so I am kind of on my own here.

I have no idea what gang members there are let alone who to approach.

I still don't even know what gangs there are and who is who.

So I may need a little more direction here. and some better clarification as to what I am supposed to find out.

like about this rebellion thing, join who? rebel against who? I think I lost the entire make-up of the Tears thing all together.

To be honest, I almost feel like I just joined this game and am posting for the first time here.

@Rebellion - That was the thing that Freia and Zayid got tangled up with. During our time working in the Bellow (Noro worked with Reck at that time I think) the "Old Man" asked us (Freia and Zayid) if we were to join his (or his groups or something) attempt to take control of the Bellow.

It was implied that the coup would be of the sneaky sort - my interpretation was that they thought they could overthrow the Sorrows in the Bellow while still tricking those above ground that the Sorrows were still in control. Not sure if I got it right, but that seems to point to a pretty huge rift in communication between the Sorrows.

The Sorrow-Sorrow rivality and subplots also seem to be something that has been hinted about earlier. Especially since some Sorrows seem to be importing more muscle into the Tears in preparation for some nefarious goal.

@Old Man - This is an NPC Zayid has run into a few times, as well as the rest of us. There was this time where we caught the mysterious mark and the Old Man was lurking around for example!

@Gang - There is some sort of gang that have taken control of the cities stash of lycanthropy antidotes. Reck had some intell on them I think - and some members where actually serving time as Tears.

It is interesting to note that this gang itself doesn't seem to be lycanthropes themselves, so why hoard the antidote?

And more interesting (and perhaps a piece of the puzzle!) was those wererats we encountered as part of another gang/criminal org (can't recall which, but back when Zayid got bitten!).
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This is basically my recollection/summary of the events you asked about - can't guarantee they are 100% correct, even without accounting for misremember info.

There seems to be a whole lot more going on as well :P

So uuuh I *think* Noro was supposed to just gather some intell on the were-antidote hoarding gang, so that we can raid their place and

1) cure Zayid (This feels like our main IC drive)

2) figure out their nefarious plot (Absentia seemed curious about this! And I am too OOC)

If Noro manages to figure out 2) simply by talking to their members that would probably be awesome. But I suspect there will be only hints and tips and such.

(Also - the gang leader of this gang seemed to have the peculiar talent to not die easily. That ought to be interesting!)

ya. What she said. You are trying to infiltrate a gang that has city wide blackmail ambitions. Their store of wolfsbane will be raided tonight for Zayid, but you cant get it all. The Sorrows need more reliable info to act. Thus you joining said gang.

@Gear - Uh oh. We'll have to calculate how much stuff we have then :P

Edit: Mkay - Freia has about ~3000 in persistent magic items (+1 weapon +1 armour).

Additionally she has a lessthenhalf charged wand, a whole bunch of scrolls, masterwork on both the weapon and armour as well as a whole bunch of mundane stuff and a spellbook.

I'm going to count that as about 1000gp if it is okay.

Wealth by level at 5 is 10500. I'm going to be rich! :D

(Also, not to stab us in the back and ruin this, but weren't you thinking of handing out less loot and using the automagical progression of buffs from unchained?)

I was thinking about that. That's right. Thanks for the reminder!

Use that wealth and bonus progression. Prisoners should not be twinkling with magic, after all.

Mkay :)

I think the automatic progression uses half wealth - but I'm going to have to double check that.

However ... it still leaves the bothersome question: What do we do with stuff that doesn't exist?

+1 Weapons are easy to convert, just grab a +1 quality like keen or something.

The same can be done with +1 armours.

But what about people with rings of protection or stat boosting amulets/headbands?

(We do actually gain Deflection bonuses and Resistance bonuses from the automatic progression. But the stat boosts only come online at level 6 and 7, meaning those whom already have them sorta lose out if they disappear ...)

Sorry to heap stuff on you Choon, but the transition will probably be a bit messy. Best to clear things up before we start tinkering with character sheets :P

Erp - Weapon and armour enchantments doesn't work like thought they would.

For example, if Freia had a Keen longsword (aka a weapon with the same value as what she has now), and a +1 automatic weapon bonus (as she would have as a fifth level character) she would not have a +1 keen longsword.

Instead, the weapon enchantments eat up the bonus and she would have a keen longsword without any +.

A bit weird - and it means that the difference between an ordinary longsword and a keen longsword is that only the ordinary longsword benefits from the automatic progression bonus (until we gain a +2 bonus, then it would be a +1 keen longsword).

Ehm... What I meant to say is - converting our weapons and armour over isn't going to be that simple either :P

Or should we simply mash the systems together?

That is, those whom have a magical + stat amulet retains those and simply pick another stat to bolster at level 6/7.

Those whom have magical weapons simply attune another weapon instead.

Thoughts =)?

Wow. That's a lot messier than I thought. Maybe nevermind. Just gain the gear to maintain my sanity in encounter balancing, but treat them as inherent save for one or two special trinkets of your choosing.

Yeah. The mess is just because we have so much stuff that wouldn't exist anymore*.

*Actually - Let me double check on that before I say too much : )

And sorry for just heaping a lot of stuff on you now Choon. I know it is a bad time really...

But this was just so much more interesting then studying for my finals! : )

Ahhhh. I see. Been there. I have a lot going on, so I'm leaning against it right now. My sanity is stretched thin right now.

just popping in to let everyone know I have a PFS event tonight, will not be posting till late if at all.

depends on what time I get home

ok do we know what we might be up against?

also I forgot, how much gear can we get?

Also I take it, this is a mission to go in beat up some bad guys and take their stuff. Oh and maybe find out some info?

You know the warehouse is practically a fortress. Not much more.

You can gear yourself to WBL, but, in the fiction, you will only have one or two magical items. The gear is mostly for me and my balancing efforts.

You can certainly go that way. You are not under the Tears rules for this one, though it had been made clear that they will still know generally where you are, so attempting to escape their custody is pointless.