
Lump |

updated my cleric spells prepared for what they will be when we actually leave town, but in the mean time those second level slots will be spent on Share Language and Masterwork Transformation.

CaveToad |

So Grobly's to do list for these few days:
- get lump to masterwork both Grobly and Bazzts armor- 300g
- get both armors enchanted to +1- 2000g
- trade recipes with Karkoran.
- put 2-300g into alchemical components and make a few potions.
- getting some cold weather gear would be wise.
This should all be doable.
@Everyone. Go ahead and subtract the gold from your money once Jopple and Lump return from the appraisers with a formal tally.

Karkoran the Butcher |

I will subtract gold for masterwork transformations, and gear purchased in town. I will also subtract gold for potions created.
Grobly, I will note down all the formulae from your book I don't have. Taking 10, Karkoran can make all the spellcraft checks required (DC 16) to scribe them into his book.
Do you want to plan future selections to maximize available extracts as we level? I will try to compile a list of likely selections Karkoran is interested in, if we have cross over we can try pick alternates.

Karkoran the Butcher |

Grobly here are the 2nd level extracts I am interested in with rough priority. If we have similarities, when we hit 4th level we can figure out how to spread them around.
iron skin
alchemical allocation
barkskin
bulls strength
blood transcription
cats grace
vine strike
eagles splendor
fox's cunning
invisibility
bears endurance
owls widsom
resist energy
lesser restoration
blood armor
cure moderate wounds
vomit swarm

Grobly |

awesome. I should be able to get my bookkeeping done tomorrow. I will also be traveling on Thursday and on vacation for a week. I should be able to post sporadically, but not as well as normal. sorry.

Grobly |

I am back! I'll get a post in this evening or tommorow with some do nonsense Grobly is doing while the others are at the meeting. Won't be going out of town for a while now, so no more absences on my part.

Grobly |

If we go in for another commune, maybe we should also think about some other topics to ask. Maybe gain some more knowledge on Goodwins state or location if possible? Or who exactly is inhabiting / minding the temple and their current allegiances

Karkoran the Butcher |

One of the questions we asked was if Kao Lor or his descendents were in the temple and we got a yes. I am hoping they have the information on Goodwin or can help us in that regard. We might be able to spare one question against narrowing down the search area. Lets see what we turn up.

Karkoran the Butcher |

I think we can take a gamble on the next question. At least I hope so. I will ask if the location is more than 200 miles from the landing site, hoping for an average number. This gives us a 50 mile stretch of land that we can cut in half, quarter, eighth and 16th with 4 more questions. Our final strip of land to search will be (hopefully) 3 miles wide and somewhere between 12 and 24 miles long. This leaves us 4 questions left to ask other things. So we should decide what to ask, with the least important questions last in case we have to use more to reduce the area.
What else would we want to ask? (yes/no questions)
1. is the temple visible from the sky (this is critical since we will have Grobly searching on Bazzt to find it.
2.....?

Grobly |

Maybe something along the lines of determining how to access the temple, assuming it is somehow protected or barred from random entry. I could see t being protected by illusions or guardians of some sort.

Lump |

Are there visible landmarks?
though I guess since it can only answer yes or no, maybe that wouldn't tell us much without us devoting several more questions to that line of inquiry.

Grobly |

Perhaps check out a topographical map, find the known landmarks in the slice of pie was narrow it two then ask 'is it closer to this one or that one?' Or maybe 'further away than this landmark' 'can the temple be seen by the eye from so and so peak?'

Tenro |

FYI, i'm currently primarily posting from my cell phone, dealing with crappy Hawaii hotel wi-fi (it's like they expect me to go outside or something) for four days until i fly to a different hotel with unknown wi-fi potency for an unknown number of days.
So, while i will be posting, they will be slightly more infrequent and most typically brief.
Copy/pasted to all games.

Lump |

NEW LIST
FROM MY HAWKE REQUISITION:
Parade Armor for Jopple (25gp)
Dagger for Jopple (2gp)
Cold Weather clothing (8gp)
Cleats (5gp)
Skis (5gp)
Snowshoes (5gp)
Dog Sled (20gp)
Adventurer's Sash (20gp)
Alchemical Reagents and Unguents for Kark (10gp) FROM MY SHARE OF PARTY LOOT
+1 Parade Armor from this country (1175gp)
Minor Bag of Holding (1000gp)
Sleeves of Many Garments (200gp)
Thieve's Ring (300gp)
Traveler's Any-Tool (250gp)
Mwk Appraisal Tool for Jopple (50gp)
Alchemical Reagents and Unguents for Kark (25gp) FROM CRONIN:
Language Books that let me cross-reference current Common and Celestial (?gp)
i just want to confirm what i did and did not get from this?

Asheranthi |

Karkoran, I have 3 level 1 potions worth of supplies for you to make potions. I can even work with you on them if you want to make some from my spells.

CaveToad |

I added a regional map (finally) to the campaign tab. This shows the progress of the groups and is a nicer version of the map that Head Marshal Hawke has given the groups, although the one you have it still quite detailed. Feel free to ask any questions.
For this group I have created a second map that I will upload soon that shows where the temple area is that you are searching for. I had to do a bunch of geometry for which I blame a certain minotaur. Vengeance will be mine.

Karkoran the Butcher |

Eep! cool :)

Lump |

wow, the groups really spread out far and wide haha

Tayanalla |

We don't have any way to grant me the ability to talk to the manticore, do we?
Lump's Share Language spell would grant it the ability to talk to us, but not vice versa, right? (because we don't know the manticore's language, he can't grant me the ability to talk to it ahead of time)
It occurs to me that I could charm it and get some info out of it (possibly) if we could talk to it.
I can use charm person on it (serpentine bloodline arcana) if I'm within 30' of it even if it can't understand me.
But it'll probably eat Lump if he hops out to touch it and cast Share Language.
Maybe we should just try to kill it.

Lump |

well, from my experience they are rather cocky and might try to talk to us. they've always spoken in common in my past experience. though we have a rough understanding of current common. but yeah, not trying to touch that thing.

Karkoran the Butcher |

Once you charm it, wouldn't it be ok with Lump casting share languages on it so it can understand our common tongue?

Tayanalla |

It would be friendly towards me only.
I'm thinking about the big mean tomcat that we took in off the streets a couple years ago.
I'm used my diplomacy skill over time to raise its attitude towards me to friendly. If you came in my house and tried to touch it, we'd probably need to get you stitches.
And you're not (I'm assuming) an anthropomorphic frog.
Willing to give it a shot if others want to try.

Lump |


Karkoran the Butcher |

I'm back from the holiday. Itching for the fight! I see I did not miss anything.

Tayanalla |

For my sanity's sake I'm trying to make a list, at 4th level we will:
1. Level all three sides of our triple gestalt.
2. Pick an extra feat
3. Pick a 4th class to advance to level 1
4. Increase the magic pool on our items to 6000gp
Missing anything?

Lump |

Cheese dip this level? Oh i was dreading this. No idea what to take! Haha
Anyone have any suggestions?

Lump |

I have good dex wis and cha.
I was thinking of dragon disciple later also.

Karkoran the Butcher |

Lump, why not take swashbuckler for cheese dip, it seems thematically reasonable, and with your high cha the panache will work out well. The first level deeds are decent and increase your survivability a lot. The finesse also lets you use Cha instead of Int to quality for some combat feats. You will get Charmed Life at 8th level which is good. Perhaps the Daring Infiltrator archetype?
I am planning on swashbuckler for my second cheese dip some day but its less useful for me with my low cha. (or possibly samurai)
I think we are pretty solid on melee, with 3 of us. Excellent ranged with Taya. We have awesome sneak and amazing outdoor utility. Lump is our face man(frog). I don't think a caster class is good for a cheese dip (and we have most of the good ones covered) unless you go for some class perk you really want like a domain power or bloodline. I will probably take warlord myself, because I want some of the gambits.
Grobly, maybe Stalker for you? It keys off of wisdom, gives you a Ki pool and a stalker art, some of which are pretty badass. You will also get some basic maneuvers and seems within your theme?
Grobly we should try to get one of these:
We should continue to look for scrolls that are on our spell list, (Ashe can scribe some for us too from her witch/druid lists whatever we are missing on our list) and copy from each others formulae books.
I'm undecided about alchemist discovery this level.
Grobly, we should be able to use the wizard spellbook we just got to put missing spells in our formula book. I think I am going for Alchemical Allocation for my 2nd level formula. Only alchemists can get it so we won't be getting it from anywhere else.
I also reread potion making and you can't make potions of spells that have a range of personal, which I totally botched. I will have to redo some that I wrote down. I might take scribe scroll for hunter spells.

Tayanalla |

You can spend ranks on it, but as I have been doing with the other tables, you don't master it overnight, you can communicate very crudely and will take some time to become fully fluent.
Well, Taya is going to start. I've got a lot of abilities geared towards enchantment/charm that aren't very useful without the ability to communicate.
Quick question: If Asheranthi or Grobly took a level of Ranger at 4th level and then picked the Shapeshifting Hunter feat with their free 4th level feat, would they get full ranger favored enemy progression off their druid levels?
I know I want to spend some quality time with that new Weapon Master's Handbook to figure out what to do with my feat and 4th level bonus feat.

Tayanalla |

Most cool things I want to do have minimum BAB requirements that I don't meet yet.
I'm still trying to decide what I'm going to do for my 4th level dip.
Part of me wants to do a PoW class, and part of me wants to do something simpler.