Player's Guide?


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Is this available yet? If so, can someone direct me to it?


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Not yet. I suspect this week based on previous timing, but that's just a guess.


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Spore Wars player guide came out on a Wednesday, so my fingers are crossed for tomorrow (03/19).


Prolly still a wee bit too early yet to bring out the Player's Guide for this, methinks. ;)


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Here4daFreeSwag wrote:
Prolly still a wee bit too early yet to bring out the Player's Guide for this, methinks. ;)

It comes out on April 2nd, so if anything it's late. They seem to drop the PGs two to three weeks before the street date, and we're just under 2 weeks away now. I know that I was hoping for it this past week.

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Lia Wynn wrote:
Here4daFreeSwag wrote:
Prolly still a wee bit too early yet to bring out the Player's Guide for this, methinks. ;)
It comes out on April 2nd, so if anything it's late. They seem to drop the PGs two to three weeks before the street date, and we're just under 2 weeks away now. I know that I was hoping for it this past week.

they don't always come out on time.

not worth worrying about.


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Yakman wrote:

they don't always come out on time.

not worth worrying about.

Counterpoint: I would like the Player's Guide because I wanna build characters!


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NoxiousMiasma wrote:
Counterpoint: I would like the Player's Guide because I wanna build characters!

Or at least finish creating characters.

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What?


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Dragonchess Player wrote:
NoxiousMiasma wrote:
Counterpoint: I would like the Player's Guide because I wanna build characters!

Or at least finish creating characters.

<.<
>.>

...
What?

Yeah, wrapped a campaign last weekend, and I'm launching this one ASAP. My players are eager to finalize their choices.


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Seems a little unusual to have even the hardcopy in hand before the Player's Guide is out. I would have figured Player's Guides were completed early in the process of developing an AP since their relevancy is usually nil after the first book in an AP.

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Riggler wrote:
Seems a little unusual to have even the hardcopy in hand before the Player's Guide is out. I would have figured Player's Guides were completed early in the process of developing an AP since their relevancy is usually nil after the first book in an AP.

Yeah, I had the same thought. This new AP looks pretty good, though! Fortunately I've got at least a month before I can start running it.

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Riggler wrote:
Seems a little unusual to have even the hardcopy in hand before the Player's Guide is out. I would have figured Player's Guides were completed early in the process of developing an AP since their relevancy is usually nil after the first book in an AP.

Player's Guides are the last thing we create for an Adventure Path, because we need the entire thing done (at least, done with development) so we can keep the whole thing in mind when creating the content. This is particularly important when we create lists of what skills are important for use in the campaign, but also in that it gives us more options to choose for artwork. Also, often during development, something will strike us as "We should mention this or hint about that or reprint this in the Player's Guide," and we don't know what those are until we get to those spots during development. Also, since the lead developer of an Adventure Path is the one traditionally and best suited to create a Player's Guide, their schedule needs to accommodate that creation.

All of that said, we've got the Player's Guide for this one all done and scheduled to come up soon! I can look into adjusting our procedures with these to try to give a little bit more visibility to the release dates for them, but at this point we don't do that.

It IS unusual for volume 1 of an Adventure Path to be available before a Player's Guide is. That's not the norm, and we try not to do that, but... sometimes reality has other complications in mind, I guess.


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More communication is always good. When left with the unknown we people tend to go the wrong direction.

It would be worth the effort to post a date for a players guide in the future.

Likewise a page for the upcoming foundry module. It gets a store page eventually, why not have it up with a release date to let everyone know it is happening!

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NoxiousMiasma wrote:
Yakman wrote:

they don't always come out on time.

not worth worrying about.

Counterpoint: I would like the Player's Guide because I wanna build characters!

You can always build characters... just sometimes they'll be better off riding bench for a bit... ;-)


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Thanks for the Behind the Scenes insight.


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James Jacobs wrote:
It IS unusual for volume 1 of an Adventure Path to be available before a Player's Guide is. That's not the norm, and we try not to do that, but... sometimes reality has other complications in mind, I guess.

Was it Hell's Vengeance? One of them was cursed; big site update 2 days before street/release date, which wasn't a good idea, especially since pretty much all product lines had a release, and an Humble Bundle sale that caused a catastrophic increase in trafic to the site, which did result in quite the crash... and a player's guide that was released closer to book 2 as a result.

Edit: might have been "War for the Crown"

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