
Snuggles: Destroyer of Worlds |
Will someone please, for the love of god, simplify this treasure bundles mess for newbies and casual gamers by posting a table or "wealth by level" chart of the expected gold players are supposed yo have for when their charters reach each level?!
NO ONE seems to ever make this frickin' easy by simply having an easily readable table that simply says "Lvl 1 starts with X gold. Lvl 2 has Y total gold. Lvl 3 has Z total gold." Everyone seems to overly explain it in complicated "At this level you get 1.4g per bundle" or "at that level you get 2.8g per bundle" without the helpful aid of saying how many frickin' bundles you're expected to get per level. Just. Simplify. It. Per. Level!
Look, I'm garbage at maintaining character sheets. And I'll never care enough to try. I'll never scour through them and do the math and track all the crap because I have a life outside Pathfinder and just really don't care. But I'm *trying* to play fairly. So I want a low effort, just-look-at-this-table, wealth by level guide for Pathfinder Society.
Why is it frustratingly hard to find something so frickin' simple that just does the math for me so I don't have to figure out what the hell "treasure bundles" are and how much freakin' gold I get?! They standardized the play. Just post a frickin' table for casual gamers already and make our lives 1000% easier dealing with this crap.

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I suspect you may have some fundamental misunderstanding about how wealth in PFS works.
As a player, you shouldn't need to know anything about bundles.
You'll get gold on your sheet. Unless you're playing non-PFS adventures for credit, like APs, you shouldn't have to know anything about bundles as a player. Just add up your gold.
There is no set you have this much money at any given level because not everybody earns the same. Also consumables etc.
Assuming a full 30 bundles, here is how much gold you can earn each level.
Earn
1: 42
2: 66
3: 114
4: 192
5: 300
6: 450
7: 660
8: 900
9: 1320
10: 1800
11: 2580
12: 3720
Also as part of the remaster rebuild you can set character wealth to a set value determined here. Do be warned that unless you've spent a lot on consumables or earned significantly less than the maximum possible, it will be a significant downgrade in wealth.

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Assuming a full 30 bundles, here is how much gold you can earn each level.
Earn
1: 42
2: 66
3: 114
4: 192
5: 300
6: 450
7: 660
8: 900
9: 1320
10: 1800
11: 2580
12: 3720
This is literally all I cared about. Spare the lexture on tracking sheets. Not going to do it. I don't care enough to keep more crap organized when I work enough already.
So that's the amount gained per level? Meaning that at Lvl 2 I should have 15+42=57g TOTAL, correct? And Lvl 3 is 15+42+66=123g TOTAL?

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So that's the amount gained per level? Meaning that at Lvl 2 I should have 15+42=57g TOTAL, correct? And Lvl 3 is 15+42+66=123g TOTAL?
No. That is the maximum possible you could theoretically earn, assuming you didn't play any bounties, or level up on non multiples of 12 xp. It doesn't include any earn income or consumables or money otherwise spent, or items sold back at half price, or critically failed crafting.
Your character wealth could be anywhere from 0 to about that +15%.
The wealth earned from bundles is only 1 piece of the equation, and comes with a bunch of assumptions.
I'm sorry things aren't simple enough.
I'm having a little trouble understanding your problem though.
Ignore bundles for a sec. Is adding up the gold earned on your chroncile sheets, and subtracting gold spend untenable for some reason? If we understood your issue, we might be able to be of more help.

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Nothing is sold back IN SOCIETY. It's ONLY treasure bundles from what I've ever seen and played. So all your variation goes out the window. It's practically standardized gold for everyone to level the playing field.
And you didn't seem to understand the equation. It was Starting Gold (15g) + Lvl 1 scenario gold (42g) = 57g TOTAL at the end of lvl 1 when you level up. So a lvl 2 character would have had a total of 57g to spend if they are calculating up item worth and seeing if they are still under.
Let me put this simply: I'm not going to waste my time tracking dozens of character sheets each per multiple characters. I just don't give a damn. I only play Society at conventions 2-3x a year. And I've got a life outside gaming. So I'm either going to play "close enough" with a wealth by level table, or I'm going to say "screw it" and do whatever. I'd like to play "close enough" to try to keep things as fair as possible. But if all people are going to do is lecture on stupid crap instead of help, I'll just wing it and not care. I'm not going to invest time into maintaining paperwork for a game. I do that 8 hr a day at work already. I'm not bringing that stress into my gaming life as well.

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It would be more appropriate if you were going to do that to use 8 treasure bundles per scenario, which is what the organized play system has figure should be the average treasure bundles earned.
At the very bottom of this page linked below is the official table you're looking for:
Multiply the number in the 8 row by 3, and that's how much you have earned for that level.

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Nothing is sold back IN SOCIETY. It's ONLY treasure bundles from what I've ever seen and played. So all your variation goes out the window. It's practically standardized gold for everyone to level the playing field.
And you didn't seem to understand the equation. It was Starting Gold (15g) + Lvl 1 scenario gold (42g) = 57g TOTAL at the end of lvl 1 when you level up. So a lvl 2 character would have had a total of 57g to spend if they are calculating up item worth and seeing if they are still under.
Let me put this simply: I'm not going to waste my time tracking dozens of character sheets each per multiple characters. I just don't give a damn. I only play Society at conventions 2-3x a year. And I've got a life outside gaming. So I'm either going to play "close enough" with a wealth by level table, or I'm going to say "screw it" and do whatever. I'd like to play "close enough" to try to keep things as fair as possible. But if all people are going to do is lecture on stupid crap instead of help, I'll just wing it and not care. I'm not going to invest time into maintaining paperwork for a game. I do that 8 hr a day at work already. I'm not bringing that stress into my gaming life as well.
Holy moly, batman, talk about disrespectful. PFS is built on the honor system, with the assumption you are adding the gold, xp, and reputation earned on your valid chronicle sheets to progress your character. That takes paperwork. I don't know what to tell you if you don't want to do that small bit of work. I hope you don't get audited. Actually, I kind of do.

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Nothing is sold back IN SOCIETY.
You recieve rewards in lump sums, sure, but you can still sell back stuff you bought.
E.G. 1: My character needs a persona mask now that Perform is finally relevant to my build at 8th level. I sell the Glasses of Sociability I've had since level three for half their value, then put that toward a Diplomat's Badge and a Persona Mask.
E.G. 2: I gain access to a +2 Striking Morningstar at 8th level from a chronicle. I decide I want that +2 potency rune early so I buy the morningstar, pay to transfer it to my weapon, then sell the leftover +1 Striking morningstar for 50 gold to recoup some of the expenses.*
*In practice accumulating the gold to do that took all of 8th level, but you get the point.

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Let me put this simply: I'm not going to waste my time tracking dozens of character sheets each per multiple characters. I just don't give a damn. I only play Society at conventions 2-3x a year. And I've got a life outside gaming. So I'm either going to play "close enough" with a wealth by level table, or I'm going to say "screw it" and do whatever. I'd like to play "close enough" to try to keep things as fair as possible. But if all people are going to do is lecture on stupid crap instead of help, I'll just wing it and not care. I'm not going to invest time into maintaining paperwork for a game. I do that 8 hr a day at work already. I'm not bringing that stress into my gaming life as well.
May all your tables be just like your Risen From The Sands one.

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I'll spare you the lecture!
Count up your XP. Then use this to cross-reference by, which should keep you roughly in the clear.
1 xp 17 gp, 8 sp
2 xp 20 gp, 6 sp
3 xp 23 gp, 4 sp
4 xp 26 gp, 2 sp
5 xp 29 gp
6 xp 31 gp, 8 sp
7 xp 34 gp, 6 sp
8 xp 37 gp, 4 sp
9 xp 40 gp, 2 sp
10 xp 43 gp
11 xp 45 gp, 8 sp
12 xp 48 gp, 6 sp
13 xp 53 gp
14 xp 57 gp, 4 sp
15 xp 61 gp, 8 sp
16 xp 66 gp, 2 sp
17 xp 70 gp, 6 sp
18 xp 75 gp
19 xp 79 gp, 4 sp
20 xp 83 gp, 8 sp
21 xp 88 gp, 2 sp
22 xp 92 gp, 6 sp
23 xp 97 gp
24 xp 101 gp, 4 sp
25 xp 109 gp
26 xp 116 gp, 6 sp
27 xp 124 gp, 2 sp
28 xp 131 gp, 8 sp
29 xp 139 gp, 4 sp
30 xp 147 gp
31 xp 154 gp, 6 sp
32 xp 162 gp, 2 sp
33 xp 169 gp, 8 sp
34 xp 177 gp, 4 sp
35 xp 185 gp
36 xp 192 gp, 6 sp
37 xp 205 gp, 4 sp
38 xp 218 gp, 2 sp
39 xp 231 gp
40 xp 243 gp, 8 sp
41 xp 256 gp, 6 sp
42 xp 269 gp, 4 sp
43 xp 282 gp, 2 sp
44 xp 295 gp
45 xp 307 gp, 8 sp
46 xp 320 gp, 6 sp
47 xp 333 gp, 4 sp
48 xp 346 gp, 2 sp
49 xp 366 gp, 2 sp
50 xp 386 gp, 2 sp
51 xp 406 gp, 2 sp
52 xp 426 gp, 2 sp
53 xp 446 gp, 2 sp
54 xp 466 gp, 2 sp
55 xp 486 gp, 2 sp
56 xp 506 gp, 2 sp
57 xp 526 gp, 2 sp
58 xp 546 gp, 2 sp
59 xp 566 gp, 2 sp
60 xp 586 gp, 2 sp
61 xp 616 gp, 2 sp
62 xp 646 gp, 2 sp
63 xp 676 gp, 2 sp
64 xp 706 gp, 2 sp
65 xp 736 gp, 2 sp
66 xp 766 gp, 2 sp
67 xp 796 gp, 2 sp
68 xp 826 gp, 2 sp
69 xp 856 gp, 2 sp
70 xp 886 gp, 2 sp
71 xp 916 gp, 2 sp
Only 2-3 times per year? Probably up to 6th level is sufficient. If you need higher, I left you the link.

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Will someone please, for the love of god, simplify this treasure bundles mess for newbies and casual gamers by posting a table or "wealth by level" chart of the expected gold players are supposed yo have for when their charters reach each level?!
The issue is that not everyone will have exactly the same amount of gold at any given level. As others have said, (partially) failing a scenario, missing a hidden treasure, playing a scenario at slow track (half the rewards), playing quests or bounties, rolling well in your earn income or crafting rolls, or selling back old equipment you no longer use can change the amount of gold you have compared to others.
NO ONE seems to ever make this frickin' easy by simply having an easily readable table that simply says "Lvl 1 starts with X gold. Lvl 2 has Y total gold. Lvl 3 has Z total gold." Everyone seems to overly explain it in complicated "At this level you get 1.4g per bundle" or "at that level you get 2.8g per bundle" without the helpful aid of saying how many frickin' bundles you're expected to get per level. Just. Simplify. It. Per. Level!
You start at 15 gold. If you're only playing games, you don't need to know anything about bundles. Nothing at all. Your GM will tally up how many bundles you found during an adventure, and calculate how much gold that means for each character.
https://lorespire.paizo.com/tiki-index.php?page=pfs2guide._.Game-Master-Bas ics#Levels_1-4_Scenario_Treasure_Bundle_Values
Look, I'm garbage at maintaining character sheets. And I'll never care enough to try. I'll never scour through them and do the math and track all the crap because I have a life outside Pathfinder and just really don't care. But I'm *trying* to play fairly. So I want a low effort, just-look-at-this-table, wealth by level guide for Pathfinder Society.
It would probably help if you did the tracking immediately when you got the chronicle sheet: Just update how much xp and gold your character has immediately after the game. That's much easier than playing 3-5 scenarios and not giving it a thought and then trying to later figure out where the sheets are and how much you have and what's your xp.
Unfortunately, you do need to be diligent in maintaining your character sheet. You need to tally your XP to know your level, and you need to keep track of your gold. A table that tells you how much gold your character "probably has" at any given point can be a handy tool to make a sanity check against when you're doing your own math, but even then you'd still need to count all your equipment you've purchased and consumables you've used: if your expected gold amount was 42gp when you hit level 2, and you now hit level 3 and you're expected to have earned 66gp more, you still need to know how much of that 42 gp you spent during level 1. Are you also expecting to only make purchases when you level up? Most characters buy new stuff between each scenario - maybe buying more consumables to replaces those they used, or maybe they had saved up gold to buy that Striking Rune and want to buy it as soon as they have the cash.
Why is it frustratingly hard to find something so frickin' simple that just does the math for me so I don't have to figure out what the hell "treasure bundles" are and how much freakin' gold I get?! They standardized the play. Just post a frickin' table for casual gamers already and make our lives 1000% easier dealing with this crap.
After the game, when you get your chronicle sheet, just check how much gold you got and note it in your character sheet, just like you do with XP. "Oh, I got 22gp, I had 1,5gp, strike that through and write 23,5gp." job done.

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And you didn't seem to understand the equation. It was Starting Gold (15g) + Lvl 1 scenario gold (42g) = 57g TOTAL at the end of lvl 1 when you level up. So a lvl 2 character would have had a total of 57g to spend if they are calculating up item worth and seeing if they are still under.
Yes, a character that just hit level 2 would have earned a total of 15+42gp, minus any consumables they have used, assuming they got full 10 treasure bundles every adventure, and didn't roll earn income after any scenario. A level 3 character probably has 15+42+66=123gp, assuming no oddities and assuming they haven't spent any gold anywhere.
But you really Should be doing the bare minimum of just writing the gold you gain after each adventure, on your character sheets. It's really that simple. IF a gm gave you a chronicle without the gold marked and instead just wrote down the TBs, ask the GM to fill it up, or ask a VO or another GM how much gold that is.

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I'll admit that while I love PFS, I hate tracking and paperwork. That is why I use a spreadsheet to keep track of my stuff. It saves me so much aggravation, and does all the math for me. Here is Pip's ITS, to show you what a filled out spreadsheet looks like.
Here is a blank ITS (Item Tracking Sheet) that you can use to track your character's wealth, XP and levels.
Best of luck, and hope you can get past the character upkeep and get to the good stuff like playing in adventures again.
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Yeah, the paperwork is a right pain. I have several friends who refuse to play PFS formally because of all the extra rules and paperwork.
It's worth it for me though, even though it IS time consuming. Unlike my friends, I don't have children or other big obligations and so can afford be up into the early AM sorting through the mess for hours and hours. Here's an example of the type of spreadsheet that I made and use.
Even with the spreadsheet, I always seem to miss something and have to self-audit all the time.
I also lose time laboriously printing out every chronicle sheet and boon, and sorting them into plastic sleeves within specialized decorative "scrap book" folders for each of my characters. That way, I can simply hold up my folder's front cover to the table and say "that's what my character looks like" while reading the short bio from the back cover in introduction. It will also serve me well should I ever get audited by a PFS official.
Anyways, that was a bit of a ramble. I hope you get something out of it.