Does this armor combo work?

[Mechanical Pear]

If I have a mithril Tatami-do, it has an AC bonus of +7, max dex of +5, and a -3 ACP, and it counts as medium armor. If I add an armored kilt to it, does it now have an AC bonus of +8, max dex of +5, -3 ACP, and count as heavy armor?

[happykj]

Mithril make it one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations, but it is still a heavy armor, so i don't think this work

[Azothath]

base armor: Tatami-do (Hvy Armr) [armr] $1000 AC:+7 MaxDex:+3 ArmrChk:-6 SplFail:35 Spd(30):20 Hrd:10 HP:35 45lb.

piecemeal armor: [!PFS]armored kilt (Lgt Armr) [armr] $20 AC:+1 MaxDex:+6 ArmrChk:0 SplFail:0 Spd(30):30 Hrd:10 HP:5 10lb. When you add an armored kilt to a suit of light armor, the set counts as medium armor. Likewise, a kilt and medium armor counts as heavy armor. Adding an armored kilt to heavy armor has no effect.

Mithral: ... Most mithral armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations. Heavy armors are treated as medium, and medium armors are treated as light, but light armors are still treated as light. This decrease does not apply to proficiency in wearing the armor. A character wearing mithral full plate must be proficient in wearing heavy armor to avoid adding the armor’s check penalty on all his attack rolls and skill checks that involve moving..... So you still need hvy armor proficiency and this shows the armor doesn't change categories.

you can add the armored kilt to tatami-do and it has no effect (other than cost $20 and adds 10lbs encumbrance).

[Claxon]

Azothath has is right. Even though mithral tatami-do counts as medium armor for proficiency, it's still heavy armor. Adding an armored kilt does nothing (beneficial) and will cost you money and weight.

[Taja the Barbarian]

Claxon wrote:

Azothath has is right. Even though mithral tatami-do counts as mediumHEAVY armor for proficiency, it's still heavy armor. Adding an armored kilt does nothing (beneficial) and will cost you money and weight.

As quoted by a prior poster, Mithril Tatami-do is still 'Heavy' for proficiency purposes.

At the end of the day, the question is how the Armored Kilt's 'Likewise, a kilt and medium armor counts as heavy armor. Adding an armored kilt to heavy armor has no effect.' text interacts with Mithril's incredibly vague 'Most mithral armors are one category lighter than normal for purposes of movement and other limitations' text as you could interpret 'inablity to gain a benefit from an armored kilt' as an 'other limitation' of heavy armor.

Honestly, I'd suggest ignoring the existence of the kilt entirely: The fact that they were never PFS Legal is a pretty good indication that no one is really certain how they are supposed to actually work in cases like this...

[Mechanical Pear]

Oh, this works even better then.

From what I understand, from what yall are saying, if I had a mithril Tatami-do, I can still enchant it with Advancing, which requires heavy armor.

That was my main goal in all of this. That, and have a good, high Max DEX, which I will have. +3 Base, another +2 for mithral, and +3 for the armor being barding for a Charger (so, eventually up to +3). The cat's dex mod will be +8, so it works.

[Azothath]

Armor Quality Advancing (+1) The advancing special ability can be applied only to heavy armor or heavy armor barding.

Barding(Lrg Std Mount) Price *4 wt *2, Hvy Armr limits running to 3*Spd (rather than 4*).

Tatami-do barding for large (horse-like or non-special) quadruped mount $4000 AC:+7 MaxDex:+3 ArmrChk:-6 SplFail:35 Spd(40,60){Hvy}:30,40 MaxSpd:*3 Hrd:10 HP:70 90lb.

mw mithral Tatami-do barding for large standard mount $40000(=4*(1000+9000(incl mw)) AC:+7 MaxDex:+5 ArmrChk:-3 SplFail:25 Spd(40,60){Med}:30,40 MaxSpd:*4 Hrd:15 HP:105 45lb. *Cha-Ching!* still Proficiency:Hvy Armr but mounts have different rules than PCs.

+1 advancing mw mithral Tatami-do barding for large standard mount $44000 {the cost of the enhancements(special qualities) remains standard} AC:+7 MaxDex:+5 ArmrChk:-3 SplFail:25 Spd(40,60){Med}:30,40 MaxSpd:*4 Hrd:17 HP:115 45lb.

Companion Charger is a Class Feature and not covered by the normal armor & barding rules.

on a side note check MIBS(magic item body slots) as a non-humanoid has a different set, and there are two sets... one Standard(Anml Archv, Ult Equip){scroll down to Magic Item Slots for Animals} and one PFS FAQ(which is a bit more comprehensive).

[AwesomenessDog]

I thought there was an FAQ on this exact question, and maybe there is one that I can't find, but all the parts you need come from this post from SKR back in 2010. You can't make a Heavy+ suite of armor to reduce it back to heavy. This is even reproduced in the d20pfsrd page for armored kilt, one of the many nice amenities that people overlook in favor of AoN.

[happykj]

Enchanting advancing to a mithril heavy armor should be fine, since it is a heavy armor regardless mithril or not

[Belafon]

Relevant FAQ

Quote:

(Mithral) does not change the armor’s actual category, which means that you can still store a creature one size category larger in a hosteling mithral fullplate, and you can’t enhance a mithral breastplate with special abilities that require it to be light armor, like brawling (though you could enhance it with special abilities that require it to be medium armor), and so on.